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Preview: Ireland v Springboks

Thursday, November 26 Champions collide as the Springboks face Ireland in the final Test of the season at Croke Park on Saturday.

The mouth-watering clash between World and Tri Nations champions South Africa and Six Nations Grand Slam champions Ireland has been billed as everything from a grudge match to a final.

Tension between the champion sides have been building since 2004 when then-Springbok coach Jake White was quoted as saying that only two Ireland players were good enough to make the Bok team.

Then came the infamous Ronan O’Gara quick tap try while the Springboks were huddling up for a team talk as agreed with referee Paul Honiss. Ireland went on to clinch a controversial victory that ended the Springboks’ hopes of securing a Grand Slam.

Just when it seemed as if the animosity had subsided things took a turn for the worst when Schalk Burger, in a moment of madness, eye gouged Luke Fitzgerald in the second Test of the British & Irish Lions series earlier this year.

The Lions allegedly refused to accept the Boks’ traditional invitation to share post-match drinks following the match, which the Springboks won to clinch the series. Ireland captain Bryan O’Driscoll then condemned Bok coach Peter de Viliers before he returned to Ireland through injury.

All this makes for a great storyline, but this is rugby, not ‘sports entertainment.’ Frankly, a match of such magnitude doesn’t need to be hyped by over exaggerated stories. The sheer talent in the two teams and quality of play that promises to be on offer on Saturday will sell out any stadium in the world by itself.

It’s a clash of champions. Two rugby-loving nations. Each willing to give life and limb to emerge victorious. What has been the focus of Springbok Tests as of late, the scrums, will take a back seat this week and certainly on Saturday, as Ireland themselves do not boast a dominant front row.

Instead, the battle of the boot and scrap on the deck has been emphasised. Ireland coach Declan Kidney sprung a surprise on Tuesday when he named 24-year-old Jonathan Sexton at flyhalf ahead of veteran Ronan O’Gara.

Sexton starred in his Test debut against Fiji last weekend, slotting all seven of his kicks at goal and gaining good ground with ball in hand. Springbok halfback pairing Fourie du Preez and Morne Steyn admitted they were surprised by Sexton’s inclusion as they were convinced they would come up against old foe O’Gara.

"We do not know much about him," Du Preez said.

"I do know that he apparently played very well in his debut Test against Fiji last weekend, but we only received the video of that Test on Tuesday and have not yet had the chance to have a look at it. I really thought that Ronan O'Gara would be picked.”

Steyn said: "I thought that I was going to play against O'Gara. However, this does not really matter, does it? It is how much you can focus on your own game which is important."

Steyn has been one of the finds of the season, kicking the Bulls to Super 14 and Currie Cup glory and the Springboks to British & Irish Lions and Tri-Nations triumph. However, the 25-year-old – recently named SA Players’ Player of the Year – has been struggling on his first European tour with subpar performances against France and Italy.

The icy, howling Irish winds will make for very difficult goal kicking and tactical kicking conditions so Saturday will be a major test for both young pivots. Another youngster who’s made waves on the international scene this year, Heinrich Brussow, will lead the Boks’ charge at the breakdown. The Free State Cheetahs fetcher upstaged both Richie McCaw and George Smith in the Tri-Nations and has been one of the stars of the Boks’ disappointing end-of-year tour.

The countries have clashed 18 times with South Africa winning 14, Ireland 3 and an 8-8 draw in 1970. However, Ireland have had the Boks number in recent years and will be aiming for a hat-trick of victories over the Boks on home soil when they welcome them to Croke Park for the first time on Saturday. The Irish claimed a record 32-15 victory at Lansdowne Road in their last meeting in 2006 and secured a controversial 17-12 win at the same venue in 2004.

Key Battle: Brian O’Driscoll vs. Fourie du Preez. Having touched on both the breakdown and boot battles, the most intriguing battle will be between the teams’ MVPs. Both are unrivalled in their respective positions, the generals of their teams and the two front-runners for the 2009 IRB Player of the Year award. Whoever shines brightest on Saturday is likely to win the coveted title.

Prediction: This is a tough one to call. Ireland have a side full of class players and are at their best at home. Having said that, they only managed a draw against the Wallabies a fortnight ago. What’s more, the Boks have selected their strongest line-up of the tour, which should see them end their unprecedented year on a high. Springboks by 4.


Ireland

28 Nov 09
16:30

Croke Park
Dublin, Ireland

Ireland
 


Cian Healy 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Jerry Flannery 2 John Smit
John Hayes 3 BJ Botha
Donncha O'Callaghan 4 Andries Bekker
Paul O'Connell 5 Victor Matfield
Stephen Ferris 6 Heinrich Brussow
David Wallace 7 Schalk Burger
Jamie Heaslip 8 Danie Rossouw
Tomas O'Leary 9 Fourie du Preez
Jonathan Sexton 10 Morne Steyn
Keith Earls 11 Bryan Habana
Paddy Wallace 12 Wynand Olivier
Brian O'Driscoll 13 Jaque Fourie
Tommy Bowe 14 JP Pietersen
Robert Kearney 15 Zane Kirchner
Sean Cronin 16 Bismarck du Plessis
Tony Buckley 17 CJ van der Linde
Leo Cullen 18 Francois Hougaard
Sean O'Brien 19 Jean Deysel
Peter Stringer 20 Dewald Potgieter
Ronan O'Gara 21 Ruan Pienaar
Gordon D'Arcy 22 Jean de Villiers
     
  • Captain - Brian O'Driscoll
  • Healy starts at loosehead
  • O'Callaghan replaces Cullen 
  • Wallace comes into the starting XV
  • Sexton at No 10 ahead of O'Gara
  • Wallace partners O'Driscoll in the midfield
  • Bowe replaces Horgan on the wing
 
  • Captain - John Smit
  • New front row in Mtawarira, Smit and Botha
  • Matfield returns in place of Bekker
  • Fit-again Burger back at flank
  • Rossouw shifts from flank to No 8 with Kankowski dropping out of the matchday 22
  • Olivier replaces the injured Jacobs at centre
  • Du Plessis and Van der Linde return from injury on 5-2 split bench
  • Potgieter in line for Test debut
  • Munster-bound De Villiers comes onto the bench


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By cainrat - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
now that is our best front row! finally!

boks by 10!

By wpwynkop - Castle Braai recommendations: 2
Score: Boks 40 Ireland 4

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Wpwynkop, i'd be more impressed if Ireland managed to score 4 than if the Boks put a ton on them

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
So Jake said two players in 2004, how many now?

1. Beast
2. J. Smit
3. BJ Botha
4. B. Botha
5. V. Matfield
6. H. Brussow
7. S. Burger
8. J. Heaslip
9. F. Du Preez
10. M. Steyn
11. B.Haba
12. W.Olivier
13. B. O'Driscoll
14. T. Bowe
15. R.Kearney

4, they're improving!

By Kevin - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Go Bokke!

By stickman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
would have enjoyed seeing kankowski getting a run at eight behind a proper scrum, but let's hope ol' danie performs as well as he did last time he played eight in europe.

oh, obviously nice to welcome back some of the old firm... pdv must be one of the luckier coaches when it comes to injuries as they generally improve his starting xv!

By murr - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Ireland by 5...Eire Abu Very Happy

By cramer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
What a crap preview, BOD and Du Preez do not play opposite each other. I would say the battle would be between Steyn and Sexton to see which one of these young flyhalfs can put their team in the right positions and dictate the flow of the game.

Another great match up would be between Jacque Fourie and BOD. The silky running of BOD and the power and guile of Fourie. Will they allow each other enough space to attack.

The Irish wings don't rival ours and they are pretty week in the back three as well as the front row, not to mention the lock pairing.

Even at 9 we are better.

You also only need to look at the bench.

The Irish are going to learn a hard lesson.

By cramer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Head to Head

Cian Healy 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Beast Takes this!!!

Jerry Flannery 2 John Smit

John Takes this, may be a bit fat now but still a great carrier of the ball.

John Hayes 3 BJ Botha

Hayes may have a bit of size but BJ is probably on of the best tight heads around.

Donncha O'Callaghan 4 Bakkies Botha

Who else but Bakkies

Paul O'Connell 5 Victor Matfield

During the lions series Victor came out on top every time.

Stephen Ferris 6 Heinrich Brussow

Ferris has got some speed but when it is a scrap on the ground.

I would give it to Brussow

David Wallace 7 Schalk Burger

Schalk probably had his best game against the bulls in the Semi final and is due to put a big game in this year.

Jamie Heaslip 8 Danie Rossouw

Danie has got the size, speed and strength.

Tomas O'Leary 9 Fourie du Preez

Who Else but Fourie

Jonathan Sexton 10 Morne Steyn

Morne is due a good game up north.

Keith Earls 11 Bryan Habana

No contest, Habana has got the pace and high work rate.

Paddy Wallace 12 Wynand Olivier

Olivier has been itching to get his chance.

Brian O'Driscoll 13 Jaque Fourie

Pretty even, have to give this to BOD as he is playing in front of his home, different player when playing in Ireland.

Tommy Bowe 14 JP Pietersen

JP has been a bit lazy but still class.

Robert Kearney 15 Zane Kirchner

Zane is still finding his feet but sure to put solid performance in.

Sean Cronin 16 Bismarck du Plessis
Bismark takes this hands down

Tony Buckley 17 CJ van der Linde
CJ will eat him alive.

Leo Cullen 18 Andries Bekker
Leo who, Bekker easily

Sean O'Brien 19 Jean Deysel
The Big Deysel Engine


Peter Stringer 20 Dewald Potgieter


Ronan O'Gara 21 Ruan Pienaar

Ronan O is actually class with the boot

Gordon D'Arcy 22 Jean de Villiers
D'Arcy haven't really been on form for the past 3 years now. Jean Easily.


!!!!! No contest.

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
sorry cramer are you saying every springbok is a better player! lose the blinkers buddy, makes you look stupid or am I just reading it that every springbok player who might not be head and shoulders above a Paddy is due a good game so is better.

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Dude if Jake White was coach he would never put BO'D in the team ahead of Jaque Fourie...by the time Fourie reaches BO'D's age he is gonna have achieved a lot more. Has BO'D scored a try against every country he has played against?

By krustybrown - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
He has Gilbert. And if Jake white wouldnt put Odriscoll on his team he'd be an idiot. We'll soon find out as word around the campfire is he's going to be coaching Leinster next season.

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
natal-taranaki-boy, well when you look at it head to head...most of the Springboks are better than their opposite number except maybe Jaque Fourie and Zane Kirschner, but it depends if Jaque Fourie plays to his potential then its a tough call. And our bench is far better than theirs...

Who do you think is better than their opposite number in the Irish team? You seem to be giving Ireland way too much respect.

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
'Dude'I don't think either of us are Jake White. BOD is a far greater player than Fourie, and Fourie is quality. BOD was one of teh few players in the Lions to outplay his opposite man, disregarding the Fourie try in teh 2nd test that was no fault of Bod. He is quite simply one of the best 13s of all time. He had reinvented the role to include that of fetcher, a crucial part that is missing from Fouries game.

Also rugby is a team game, Fourie plays in a better team, that is why he'll achieve more.

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Well krustybrown of course he is gonna put BOD in the team then...who else does he have to choose from.

Seriously though...i think its a tough choice between the two cause Jaque Fourie when he plays at his best is just as impressive as BOD...but i guess BOD has a massive amount of experience and leadership.

But we shall see this weekend what happens Smile

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
Kearney, Bowe, O'Driscoll and Heaslip are all better than their opposite man. The fact that two of those positions are where we're missing Steyn and Spies is important. Perhaps maybe you should lose some arrogance and pay respect to a team that has won a grand slam and provided the bulk of the lions team that nearly toppled us.

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
WHAT? did you say that the role of fetcher is a crucial part missing from Fouries game?!? Excuse me man but are we talking about the same guy here...Fourie is considered an extra flank. From that comment im guessing you havent watched many of his games. That seems to be a very biased thing to have just said.

Thats like saying Paul O'Connell is simply one of the best locks in the world, he had reinvented the locks role to include a much more physical game, a crucial part that is missing in Bakkies Bothas game. See how ridiculous that sounds...?

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Dude a grand slam includes teams like England, Scotland and Italy...that doesnt mean jack. Basically they beat Wales and France...and contributed the majority of their players to the Lions squad which was beaten by the World Champions, Tri Nations Champions, and B+I Lions series champions. OH wow!

You know if they managed to beat Australia and the B+I Lions managed to beat us in the series then id be showing them a lot more respect...but these are the Springboks we are talking about and the only teams i pay respect to are the teams that beat us. So lets see, perhaps on Saturday evening ill be paying respect to the Irish...until then... Laughing

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Gilbert in comparison to O'Driscoll it is an important part missing from his game that is correct. Are you saying that Fourie is better than BOD on the ground? You're fighting a losing battle here son.

It would be similar to saying that Wilkinson is an excellent flyhalf, one of the best ever, but he is missing an attacking element that makes Carter the better of the two. Doesn't sound that ridiculous to me....

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
The irish have beaten us in our last two attempts in Ireland. Possibly show them some respect at home or does your memory not stretch back that far. We are undoubtedly the best rugby team in the world but not by a country mile as France showed us. We should win and I expect us to win but it is simply insulting to the Irish to show them no respect.

By krustybrown - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Fair play to ye natal-taranaki-boy. thanks for that Gilbert, Fourie is up there with the best and his battle with BOD is going to be worth the admission alone. But BOD made an embarresment of De Villers a few weeks ago in the Leinster v Munster so we'll see. By the way are there no better no 14's in SA than Petersen? If he played for Ireland I'd be (edited)ting myself!!

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Yeah i know we lost to Ireland in our last 2 attempts im not stupid. Ireland are a really good team...of course they are! But in my opinion winning the 6 nations means nothing because they still werent able to beat Aus but Scotland were...and then France beat NZ and SA. Like i said i pay them respect if they beat us just like i did after every game that we lost to them...but this is a new year since the last time we played them...and i got no reason to respect them yet...

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
krustybrown, Mapoe during the CC looked amazing compared to Pieterson...i think Pieterson needs a kick in his backside like what happened last year when PdV dropped him from the squad...Mapoe needs a chance to prove himself and to keep the competition fresh.

By cramer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
The last two times that they actually beat us was due to a ref error the fist time around and the second time around Jake left the top 15 Springboks at home and it was largely an experimental side.

BOD is great in creating a gap but he can lose his cool if his team doesn't perform and actually be an extremely negative player.

The only reason why I chose him is because he is different player when playing at home.

I watched BOD play in SA and he has never done well, the only reason why he had some success on the Lions tour was because he was playing against Jacobs, with Jamie Roberts on his inside which could be the next JdVilliers.

But I know enough about Irish rugby since I have spend a year in Dublin.

I do think it would be good contest, but I think the Boks will have a point to prove and this is the best team of the Tour or even the Year.

Just hope the guys still has some gas in the tank.

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Gilbert you get anomalies in rugby. By your logic of tracing results we could get this: we got tonked by Australia in Brisbane, Scotland beat Australia, Scotland lost to France, France lost to Ireland so Ireland should be considered world champions. Doesn't really make sense does it? Teams have off days and the length of seasons is important.

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
K dude you looking way too far into it now...my point was that winning the 6 nations doesnt mean much since it was last season for them and that more often than not the 6 nations champions get beaten by any Tru-Nations team.

So to end this annoying arguement...i will only show Ireland any respect if they manage to beat us this weekend. It was the Irish players that had the most to say about the Boks while they were here on the B+I tour and frankly they acted like a bunch of pricks when the Boks were actually being nice to them. BOD is a tosser and so is Paul O'Connel. They are actually a team that i really dislike at the moment. So i have NO respect for them.

And...

GO BOKKE!!!

Twisted Evil

By murr - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Ireland also have something to prove and the reason we drew with the wannabees is because we didn't play together for six months. also john hayes was just back from a ban and jerry flannery was just back from injury...i thought we did pretty well actually. granted scotland did beat the wannabees but that is because the wannabees couldn't finish anything coupled with the fact that the scotish defence was outstanding eire by 10 eire abu

By Gilbert - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Tri-Nations*

By Luke... - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Jees people. I haven't seen this much banter over a game in a long time. And this game isn't even that huge as far as I'm concerned.
Predict the boks to win by at least 10.

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
its not important what you think Gilbert, I just hope our lads on the picth show some respect, this aint going to be a walk over and we need to go in with the right attitude. We definitely have the men to win this, hears hoping its just not one game too far! What a finale to the season! BOKKE

By murr - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
i just want that ireland have no excuses on saturday unlike our game against the wannabees where we had not played for six months and also player coming back from injury and so on, but we have played 2 games now so we really dont have any excuses on saturday...i still think eire by 5 Very Happy

By blacklightning11 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
GOD HELP THE IRISH THAT A HOT TEAM, MIGHT HAVE STARTED JDV

By jauk - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Good team, not sure about wynand olivier and JP Pietersen. I would have picked Jean no questions asked @ 12. Pietersen just became damn lazy like most of the Sharks players. I do like John back at 2, Bismarck on the bench(great impact) and the Schalk and Brussouw combo.

As for natal taranaki boy - BOD is and will not be the best no13 of all time because Danie Gerber is sitting in that chair and will be for a long time.

To the Irish - screw you!

By murr - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
screw you...thats a good one, there is no need for it though jauk. BOD has been one of the best centers in the modern age and if you are a rugby fan then you should respect that and know that.

By krustybrown - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Jauk, I can honestly say that we've nothing but respect for the Boks, after all they've achieved since WC 2003 its a bit hard not to. But heres a history lesson for you. Every time the Irish rugby team play the Boks in Sa, they've been treated with such a lack of respect from SARFU. We dont demand respect but to be treated the way we are when we're touring SA is disgusting. Having to stay in crappy hotels, having to train with substandard equipment and on substandard pitches is downright insulting. In 1998 when we played the Boks in Bloem, the irish team wern't even allowed off the bus to enter the grounds until the boks had finished signing autographs. What hosting Union would do that? As I say we have only the highest ammount of respect for the Boks despite the lack of respect the irish team gets from some of the Bok Supporters and Jauk's comments above only add fuel to the fire.
Remember one thing Jauk, when the rest of the world wouldnt play the Boks durning the 80's, Ireland amid a lot of tension came out and played you guys even though the Irish public were dead against it. John Robbie for example was told that if he went on the tour, his job in Guiness brewery wouldnt be there when he got home. I think for that alone, Jauk you and some of the Bok supporters should show a bit of respect.

By sasuperman20 - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
I don't know how the preview can predict a Bok win in every-single-game. The preview is as slanted as our fans! I want the Boks to play well and win every time but seriously: our track record hasn't been good, and we are playing in their back yard.
Everyone here has already decided that we've won the match. This is a game where we should go in as even if not the under dog

By natal-taranaki-boy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
krustybrown, well played! enough said. Some of the other posters on this sight should read your post, then perhaps instead of bickering we could concentrate on a game between two of the best sides in world rugby and savour our first and last chance to play at such an incredible venue that is Croke Park.

By DAGATH - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Well said krustybrown!. spot on mate.

I think the SA supporters are getting the wrong end of the stick here tho. It seems the media are HYPING things up beyond the actual truth. There calling this a final between the Tri nations and the Six nations. Which has kinda (edited)ed people off.

Really the fact that we will most likly have the best game of rugby in the whole tour this weekend has been totally lost. Regardless of the winners im sure it will be a cracking rugby match and as a RUGBY fan as well as an irish man. im very much looking forward to that.

AND BY THE WAY!!! A quote below from Brian O'Driscoll which clearly shows the level of respect Ireland have for the Bokkes.

"
But O'Driscoll predicts South Africa will be determined to finish an exhausting campaign on a triumphant note.

'No, South Africa are not a team in decline,' said the Lions and Leinster centre.
'That's just sections of the media trying to wind the South Africans up a little bit, but it's not doing us any favours!
'They're the reigning world champions, have beaten the Lions and won the Tri-Nations.
'They lost to France - boo hoo! They won't be crying about it, they'll be looking to put it right against us in the last game of what's been a great season for them.
'If we get the upper hand we'll say we've beaten a very strong South African team.'


And i say this. Ireland have always without fail been one of the most respectful teams in world rugby! Can SA say the same?

By no15 - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
It's a South African invasion baby!

By DAGATH - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
MMMMMmmmmmmmMMMMMMMmmmm

Was just listening to an interview with Joel Stransky(Legend)

His prediction....... Ireland to win.......

Joel Stransky::
"My Heart say Green & Gold But my head says Ireland"


Very interesting. Very nice guy is Stanskey.

By rugby-man - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Natal-taranaki-boy how could You say that you would pick o'driscoll over jacque fourie
Want the boks to win soooooooo much coz I can't stand the Irish but got to say Ireland by 8 as were exhausted and in terrible conditions

By krustybrown - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Cheers lads! DAGATH well put dude, Natal-taranaki-boy and sasuperman20 thanks for your honesty and heres to a fantastic game on SAT. GAmes between our 2 countries have never been less than thrilling. Right, lesson over on with the rugby and post/pre pints in the Hogan Stand afterwards! Who's with me?

By smart - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Dagath

I am sorry but Stransky is a w@nker. I will show him a bit of respect for the whole world cup thing but ever since then he has done nothing but slate SA rugby. The dame guy predicts us to loss nearly every game we play. When would you ever hear an Ozzy or NZ commentator ever say something like that? I don’t care if it sounds biases but if you’re a true Bok supporter you always predicted them to win.

Every time he commentates on a game he just lays in to the Boks even when they winning. So his prediction can go and suck it as far as I am concerned.

By butcher - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Northern hemisphere rugby is improving without a doubt. . Southern hemisphere may still be stronger but i feel less than before. .best team in the world vs biggest cheaters in 2004. . Still cant get over that

By butcher - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Sa are better than ireland no doubt. . That doesn mean they will win . . Why are people complaining about the media hype?its nice makes it a greater spectacle . . I wouldn be this excited if not for the media spicing it up:)this way the win means that much more

By BokkeIntl-85 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
What are your predictions Gents & Ladies??

By BokkeIntl-85 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Boks 36 – Ireland 17
Cause some havoc Bokke!!!!!!
Twisted Evil

By Boerbok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Where's Kiwijoe. No silly comments...... Must be stressing about France Shocked

By bluebok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
I have to say, I am really looking forward to this game, but damn, I think the AB's vs Frogs game is gonna be a humdinger!!!

By tanx - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
ireland are in over their heads on this one. the time for honoring themselves will be put to an end this weekend.

boks by 11

By Willeklong - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
I am almost more exited about Saturday's game than the Tri Nations this year. We owe the Eire a lashing in their back yard. I think the Jacque Fourie vs BOD debate is a bit pointless. JF is brilliant in his own right but BOD still edges it due to his x-factor. Although they are of different build, they are actually quite similar players. The thing that they have in common is that both can finish or set up a teammate from what looks to be a virtually impossible position. Look at Fourie's try in the second B&I Lions test. I've seen O'Driscoll score plenty of similar ones.

I would've opted for a 12. Olivier, 13. Jacque Fourie 14. JDV combo. Makes the backline flexible and JP Pietersen is struggling. Remember how awesome JDV was on wing at the start of his career?

By bringbackrucking - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
A DRAW!!!!!!!!!!!

By Kebaber - Castle Braai recommendations: 2
I just had a quick glance at all the comments and let me just say that there are times that I'm not perticularly proud to be a South African. I love my team and all that but with some comments like the one Jauk left I fear it's safe to say that there are a few idiots among us that are holding us back in the eyes of the rest of the world! There is no need for shallow remarks or unsulting a whole team/nation just because there's a competition on the go. We might be the WC, 3N and S14 winners but we can certainly learn a thing or two from the Irish. They have a great rugby legacy and they play good clean rugby. They are proffesional about what they do and bring it to us every time. So my request is; if you can't say something constructive then bud out and leave it to the people that enjoy the game!


Score : Bokke 22 - Ireland - 15
It's gona be a cracker of a game!!!

By evilsmiler - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Yeah im going to the match in croke park so i cant wait to see the boys in action,has been too long!. It always feels a little wierd not supporting the paddys in a rugby match cus im irish but when your a born bokke and your heart is for green and gold..i must support the boks!! GO BOKKE! Razz

By botsbok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
mann, i cant stand the wait....

By krustybrown - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Nice one Kebaber, its good to know there are some Bok supporters left that havent given in to the arrogance that comes with being the best at what you do. i've been a semi Bok semi Irish supporter for as long as I can remember and some of the remarks left on this site has at times made me ashamed of my South African heritage. Here's to a great match.

By malbokinpomland - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
wtf how can the media say the winner of this game is the unofficial world champs? its a joke. yes i agree ireland have been a good side over the last few years. bod is a great centre but the reallity is that the nh teams dream about winning world cups where as the boks and all blacks and aussies are expected to win it all the time. have ireland ever beat nz 3 times in a season??? no actually im 35 been a rugby nut since i was a kid and dont think i can recall the all blacks being thumped by the irish, correct me if im wrong murr and co, yeah fair enough the all blacks have hammered the boks plenty, but we have won our fair share 2

By malbokinpomland - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
and just for the record when six nations time comes i will b shouting 4 the irish, but as for tommorrow ek is bok b (edited). hope we put 50 points on the irish

By aasvoel - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
I see Bakkies is out with a back injury. Andries will replace him

By jauk - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
screw you too idiot!

By USARugbyfan - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
My sentiments excactly Kebaber- if we can keep the insults off the site it will be for the better!!However, rugby supporters are a crazy lot and fierce supporters of their respective teams-and that causes them to someimes loose it and make stupid remarks! Mr. Green Rolling Eyes Shocked Mad Heres to common sense prevailing!!!!

By USARugbyfan - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
And the Bokke winning ofcourse!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

By DAGATH - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
@malbokinpomland
This pains me greatly to say BUT::

Actually ireland have never beaten New Zealand not in over 100 years of games. Just in case ur thinking WTF i say it again. Ireland have never ever in there history of rugby beaten New Zealand. Crazy statistic i know but hey. Rugby for a long long time was a minority sport in ireland and its really only in the last 10 years of professionalism that ireland has begun to climb the ladder. Given that fact i think there doing pretty well. they match the french and there now putting it up to the NH sids on a more regular basis.

Given irelands rugby history i really dont understand why there are so many people who begrudge them. Dont you think its great that other non traditional rugby nations are coming up to the highest levels. Argentine is another great example.

Some people are just to fond of the status quo.... preferring that the SH teams remain dominant. really folks is that realistic?

By USARugbyfan - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
We only need Juan,Pierre,Frans and JDV to start in this game- then I will not hesitate to predict a higher win for the Bokke.
But I agree also with DAGATH-teams that dont develope and improve
will be left behind and the Irish have improved a lot in last few years and are worthy opponents.

By stickman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
i've heard it said that the internet simply makes your stupidity more accessible to others... and i'm certainly seeing evidence of that here.

jauk and co., your parents really should really put a cap on your broadband usage at home.

and cramer, for god's sakes man, have a look again at your selection bias! boks certainly have a stronger man-for-man side, but give respect where respect is due. at least natal-taranaki-boy is adding some reason to the debate...

By jauk - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
If I was living with my parents like you stickman they probably would but seeing that I am +-15000 kilometers away from SA means that I've left the nest.
You really should really should really should really check your grammar before you call people stupid again...

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