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CJ answers Bok SOS

Monday, November 09 Tighthead prop CJ van der Linde will join the Springbok squad in France on Wednesday as a replacement for Jannie du Plessis, who has withdrawn from the European tour with a hand injury.

Leinster-based Van der Linde made the last of his 56 Test appearances for South Africa against Australia in a Vodacom Tri-Nations fixture in August 2008.

His most recent appearance for Leinster was in the Irish champions’ 23-6 victory over Cardiff Blues on 31 October, before the break in the European season for the autumn internationals.

Van der Linde made his Test debut as a 22-year-old against Scotland in 2002 and was a member of the World Cup-winning squad of 2007.

“It’s fantastic that we’re able to call on a player with CJ’s experience to join the squad,” said Bok coach Peter de Villiers.

“With such a tight schedule it is also helpful to be able to bring in someone who has been part of the group before, knows the systems and will settle in quickly. CJ is also a specialist tighthead who will provide the type of cover we will need.

“It is unfortunate that we have lost three players so early in the tour but that is part of the game and we have to be able to manage such setbacks,” de Villiers said.

Hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle and prop Gurthrö Steenkamp were also forced home with injuries following the opening match against Leicester on Friday.

Van der Linde will travel to France on Wednesday where the rest of the squad, arriving from Johannesburg and London, will converge in Toulouse. The other two replacements Wian du Preez and Adriaan Strauss will join the squad in Johannesburg on Sunday.

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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
Not the best scrummer but surely he can't do worse than the guys who played on friday..

I truly think coaching is the issue. Can't we get a proper scrumming coach? Old Gary Gold was the WP forwards coach and they were rubish. Now that he's gone all of a sudden the WP scrum is doing well?

Get OS (LEGEND) Du Rand in there!
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By Nitronic - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Still the best tighthead SA has!!!!!
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By darooosta - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
So what about Frans Steyn and JdV???!!! Thought that the boks would not consider overseas based players?!!! Happy he's in though!
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Dude he is a loosehead.
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Uhm I take it back.. Didn't he always play loose head? Too tall for a tight head anyway.
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By Gron - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
He plays both.
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By swing-it-wide - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Boks are the only team in the world that can send 3 players home from injury and call in another 3 guys who are way better!!!
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By KaRmA77 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Firstly C.J. VanDerLinde can play either 1 or 3 btw. I rate him better as a loosehead. In my opinion he is the best answer to replace Os DuRandt. What most people dont know is that VanDerLinde played through a Test with a broken arm?

He has the aggression and size to impose himself at 1. I see Beast becomming the perfect Super-Sub and possibly replacing VanDerLinde in the last 30 minutes Razz

I must admit I was dissapointed with Gurthro Steenkamp against the Tigers. I rate him but it seems like he is tiered and had little support from his 6 and 7 flanks Mad

Even Ashley Johnson is too blame for breaking far to soon from the scrum and not supporting their tight 5 Crying or Very sad

Davon Raubenheimer Confused
Chilliboy Ralephelle
Confused
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By Nitronic - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Well he did play tighthead in the WC 2007! Anyway he will be far better than John Smit at tighthead. But the problem is that you do need Bismarck in the starting 15!
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By sasuperman20 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
our whole pack were to blame for Fri's massacer. The loosies were very loose and Danie and Bekker's body position was practically verticle. Can't scrum from positions like that
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By forgottenplayer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
There you can really hope that Pearly and Adi get injured as well during training this week. Then Frans and JDV can be called up as well. However, great to see you back in the mix CJ.
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By riek1988 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Well I think that if you have the beast or Wian Du Preez scrumming alongside CJ,you have got a pretty strong front row,not to mention the pace that CJ has got for a prop.People say that he`s not such a strong scrummager,I like to disagree I think that he`s a good prop.He`s a bit older now but if you are a prop that counts in your favour,the more experienced you are the better Laughing
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By zulustormer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
this is justice.. these players never deserved to be in the squad in the first place.. now if only maku ,raubenheimer ,rose ,nokwe and hargreaves can get injured. Exclamation
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By KaRmA77 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
My Bok Team to face France....

15. Riaan Viljoen.
14. J.P. Pieterson.
13. Jacque Fourie.
12. Wynand Olivier.
11. Bryan Habana.
10. Morne' Steyn.
9. Fourie DuPreez.
8. Ryan Kankowski.
7. Schalk Burger.
6. Heinrich Brussow.
5. Victor Matfield.
4. Bakkies Botha.
3. Jannie DuPlessis.
2. John Smit (c).
1. C.J. VanDerLinde.

16. Beast Mtawarira.
17. Bismark DuPlessis.
18. Andries Bekker.
19. Jean Deysel.
20. Ruan Pienaar.
21. Adrian Jacobs.
22. Zane Kirschner.
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By KaRmA77 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Guys lets not joke about fate and destiny and NEVER wish injuries on players please Wink
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Not bad Karma, I just wish we had a more explosive option at 15.
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By theLEM - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Karma, that is pretty much the team that should be selected except for: You cant really leave bismark on the bench, his workrate is truely spectacular, (which everyone knows etc etc)It comes down to the fact that your captain should make it in the team as a player first, as a captain second... The time for looking for a captai that can lift the webb ellis in 2011 is NOW. JS is just not good enough to crack the nod.

My other reservation of your team is that i think we should play Pienaar at 12. Wynand is like wilim de waal, an awesome player at currie cup level, but strictly not above that.
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By Peppers - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Earl Rose actually had an alwright game Shocked Another good game and he will be in the starting 15 against france Confused
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By forgottenplayer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
you make me shivering peppers, but you might be right
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By SunnyG - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
Peppers. Don't joke like that! Yellow card for you! Laughing
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By gedi - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Agree Karma - that front row is ideal -J smit needs to play hooker overseas - that would make our scrum ten times better and we dont really need bismarc for this tour as the gameplay will not apply to him...and its not like without him we dont have any other good bashers and fethers who do high work around the park - we still have bakkies to hit it up, schalk and brussouw fetching(schalk also hitting it up) Kankowski for some flair and matfield the lineout king - then there is still Captain john who also does great work around the park and is a specialist hooker first and foremost - I still think it's ridiculous that we do this smit ta prop thing the sharks got dominated in the front row and the Boks will too if they not carefull with selection!!!!!

It is going to be ultra tough on firday night - i reckon it will be harder than ireland.....on the positive lots of these guys know how to win in france and played a whole world cup there -except they didnt play france of course, but it still is nice to know that lots of the playters had 5-7 games there in 2007
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By RagingBull - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Lem - Spoken like a true knob!

How can you leave the most experienced test captain out of the team because
of current form? His leadership on the field is what wins trophy’s you knob. There is teaching the skills
that he possesses.

Wynand is by far the second best inside we have after JDV. He still young and after JDV probably has the most
experience at the pos. so it would be an obvious choice.

Funny that Wynand won best player in the Super 14 over 110 other contenders if he isn’t good enough. He was probably the best. inside
in the tournament.
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By RagingBull - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
* no teaching Wink
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By Nitronic - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
thank you ragingbull, agree 100%
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By Nitronic - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Lem Pienaar at 12? On current form will Pienaar not even make a F team!!!!!!
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Yeah I won't lie LEM. Thats silly.

I am a Pienaar fan but iI think he needs to be left alone at 9, sent home to practice and get some form so we can all remember why he is a Springbok in the first place.
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Another BIG issue was the leadership. Its already absurd that Chillyboy is Captain as he doesn't even make the cut to start for the Bulls.

Potgieter is more likely to captain the Bulls before Chilly and Olivier in the first place then they go and select Olivier as the Vice captain? Madness. No wonder Potgieter was so quiet.
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
AND Raubenheimer??????????????????? WTF did he do the WHOLE game? He looked like an oversize meerkat bobbing around. Too much of a limp figure .

Deysel made a huge impact coming on shamefully with little support.
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By General_Mc - Castle Braai recommendations: 1
This tour Pinaar should be allowed his chance at 10. If it continues to fail then the whole plan needs to be scraped, unless there are positive fans.

HAS EVERYONE FORGOTTEN THAT PIENAAR PLAYED 10 WHEN WE LAST TOURED eUROPE AND WE GAVE ENGLAND A CARROT AND BEAT WALES! CAN'T BE THAT BAD.

Also you are nuts if you think Viljion is a better option than Kirchner! The latter atleast has some bloody experience in super 14 and won many trophies!

If Kirchner was white and Viljeon was black you'de be calling quota quota!

Some bok fans embarass me with there lack of knowledge but big mouths or in this case hands
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By ButchFan - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
karma are you retarded.... jannie is being replaced by CJ? how on gods earth can jannie and CJ both play? catch a wake up. Olivier is the worst centre we have got, rather see earl the pearl at inside then that clutchplate.

Johnson for 8th man!!!!!!
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By MarkB - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Am I the only one perplexed by the wing selections??? Nokwe and Ndungane have been shown up despite having numerous opportunities...it's enough already!!! Evil or Very Mad We can no longer afford to carry dead weight! I'm thinking also of Heinie Adams, Adi Jacobs, Rubenheimer, Chili. Adi Jacobs particularly is probably the single biggest liability in the Bok squad!

And well done to Bekker - I thought he had a storming performance - driving at times 3 Leicester players on his own!

We're gonna miss Spies on tour! Sad
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By fatboy - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
amen..

nice pick...

how he has his long stud boots with him...
somebody needs to anchor this bok scrum...
he not the best scrumming..but he has experience
and we do have an ex hooker playing 3,.,
he gotta be better than that...

hey..hats of to smitty for taking this role on..
as a captain..he is the best..maybe loosehead would have been a better bet..
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By bluebok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
No offence guys, but the article is about CJ VD Linde replacing Jannie Du Plessis who is INJURED!!!!! How can he be in your team if he is on his way back to South Africa???? Seriously okes, WAKE UP!!!

Jannie got owned in the Currie Cup and again on Friday night, it think it is a blessing that he is on his way home. He isn't good enough anyway. Chilli never should've been there anyway, so there is no real injustice with him coming back home either. He may be a fantastic leader, but seriously, he is not good enough to start for the Bulls and that is when he is not injured....which he always is.

As for Wynand, he is not as good as Jean De Villiers, but he is better than anyone else currently playing in that position in South Africa.

I still can't get over all of you carrying on about Janni being in the side when the article you are commenting on is about him being replace for the tour.....CATCH A WAKE UP!!!
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By cramer - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
My front row would be,

CJ - Loosehead
John - Hooker
BJ - Tighthead

Beast comes on as impact player
Bismark - Impact player two.

Great to see CJ back and excellent choice for the bench as he covers both positions.

I think CJ will do great as he has been playing up North for a couple of seasons now.
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By bluebok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Cramer I like your call on BJ Botha, but unfortunately that aint gonna happen. I still think Botha is the best scrummager in South Africa. Also it is very true waht you say about CJ playing up north, that experience will be invaluable for this tour. Good call PDV, even though you had no choice but to make it.
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By mikes - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Even if Jannie was not injured he should not be there... and as for suggesting pienaar at 12 what a joke.. when he has tried all the positions in the backline are you guys then going to suggest he goes in at flank??? face the facts he is not good enough to be a first choice in any backline position.. he must stick to scrumhalf and maybe bench for FDP...
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By theLEM - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Clearly with the abuse that the pienaar rant got, it is not a popular idea. I am not a fan of his playing anywhere in particular but, since and i will quote most of you guys from before the lions series, "ruan pienaar is the attacking flyhalf in the country." Remember that. Ok, now think carefully, where is the best place for a flyhalf to learn his trade? (Its i trick question raging bull)

Then, on the John Smit issue picture this, RWC final against New zealand: 12-12 with ten minutes to go: you need your captain, am i right. Only problem is: John Smit is sitting on the bench from half time because he can no longer play 80 minutes of rugby.

When you are changing captains, do it before the in(edited)bent is past his sell-by date (and im not saying that JS has NO place in the team people) so that he can retain a supportive leadership role within the team, *teaching the new captain a thing or two along the way. This will mean that there will not be a huge leadership vacuum when he is gone...
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By bluebok - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
True that Lem, because when Smit hangs up his boots, Maftield, who is the Vice Captain, is not going to last much longer before he too calls it a day, because lets face it, neither of them are Spring chickens anymore, and then we'll have nobody with real test match experience at captain. Never really though aboutit, but it is time we started grooming our next long term Springbok captian. That is probably the idea behind Chilliboy, but doesn't seem to be able to play 5 minutes of rugby without getting injured.
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By darooosta - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
So what about Frans Steyn and JdV???!!! Thought that the boks would not consider overseas based players?!!! Happy he's in though!
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By youliedtometappe - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
People are finally seeing the light re: Ruan Pienaar.

It makes me wonder why in this country we have the need to back a player on his 'potential' or 'flair' or whatever (who his dad was) and get so excited. WE have a great Springbok team and players should have to prove themselves and play their way into that.

Pienaar - unfortunately - doesn't deserve that kind of adulation. Neither does Peter Grant, Shchalk Brits or this clown who pretends to play lock for the Boks at the moment Andries Bekker.
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By RagingBull - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Lem, lem, lem, lem , lem.....

that is practically why John Smit has moved to prop is to prolong his career.

Os was 35 years of age and played the ENTIRE 80 mins in the 2007 WC final.
John Smit will be 33 years of age in 2011 WC. So....what think of something else.

And as for your trick question, no playing flyhalf is actualty the best position to learn your Flyhalf
trade.

I believe Pienaar has the talent to play fly half and to be a world class fly halve as well. But, he needs to work at his kicking game
and hê needs quality game time at Super 14 and CC level. That were you build your confidence. That were the Sharks need to step UP and
stop importing flyhalves and actually use the one at their disposal.
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By theLEM - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Never argue with an idiot; they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

In which case: Ragingbull, you are right about everything you've ever said. Two gold stars for you buddy, well done!
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By Dome - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
These days you cant even give your own opinion before someone calls you a "knob" or saying "you are smoking the good (edited) again" (haha I like that one). Anyway here is my opinion: CJ and Wian at 1 and 3 and Smit at 2. Beast and Bismark on the bench.
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By mikes - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
dome you.............@#$% hey just joking great idea that, but as stated earlier Smit moved to prop to prolong his career, we need him for the world cup.. If smit can go another 18 months as hooker then thats the answer, but thats not going to happen. beast should be great in while, boks need to get OS there quickly to work with the front row, look what he has done at the cheetahs, best front row in SA now(from chimps to champs in one season), better than the bok(shark) front row, I think he could get the boks up there with the best, its about technique.
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By rehanb_bl - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
general mc , kirchner is a liability, every game i've seen him play he has cost us big time, not that impressive and unreliable with the boot( as well as mindless most of the time)
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
AND Raubenheimer??????????????????? WTF did he do the WHOLE game? He looked like an oversize meerkat bobbing around. Too much of a limp figure .

Deysel made a huge impact coming on shamefully with little support
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By jauk - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
I think Ruan Pienaar is turning out to be the next Gaffie. I hope I am wrong. Gaffie also played everywhere from wing to fullback and flyhalf, great player but screwed up by coaches with tooooo much vision.

I like Morne Steyn at flyhalf, I dont know why we keep on hammering the Pienaar at flyhalf issue. Morne Steyn is solid, a great kicking game, clever player, very calm, everything you want in a flyhalf, he's young and he is a BIG problem for any apposing side.

Come New Zealand, the next world cup, with probably muddy and rainy weather, great forwards and Morne will be a winning combo.

If Jean de Villiers comes back to SA, I think he will be a good choice for captain or backup to john. In saying that I think John Smit needs to step up with his game because Bismarck is close. John needs to play hooker, he is best there, I like him more there.
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By junior_bok10 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
well if we have this guy then what about JDV or frans steyn????????.....or even joe van niekerk, he has been incredible!!!.......christ i didn't realise BJ and CJ are in europe for 3 years.....buy the time they come back it will be too late Shocked Shocked Shocked

bokke 15 to face france:
1.Cj van der linde
2.bismarck
3john smit
4.victor
5.bakkies
6.brussow
7.deysel
8.ryan kankowski
9.FdP
10.morne steyn
11.Bryan habana
12.wynand olivier
13.jaque fourie
14.JP Pietersen
15.kirchner/viljoen(can't choose)

16.beast-great impact sub
17.adriaan strauss
18.andrie bekker
19.ashley johnson
20.francois houghaard
21.meyer bosman
22.kirchner/viljoen
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By geostar - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Where's Joe Pietersen and Mapoe. Good players. Pietersen was the best 15 in the CC
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By Luke... - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Well I suppose the only real question is: Is this an isolated incident, forced by the fact that there is not enough time to bring a different prop to Europe (which would be a lie seeing as the team haven't left yet), or are they opening the door and saying that oversees based players are once again allegeable (I'm Afrikaans and I have no idea if this word is spelled correctly) to play for the Springboks?
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By crazysharksman - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
junior please can you refrain from using the Lord's name?
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By sergio - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
We need to have a whole front row coaching team, consisting Balie Swart, Os du Rant, Cobus Visagie and Robbie Kempson....teaching the guys the tricks of the trade, and drilling them into the ground with military precision.....
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By hannesvs2 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
Lets see how close can i get to what will be announced today...

1 Beast
2 Bismark
3 John Smit
4 Bakkies Botha
5 Victor
6 Brussow
7 Schalkanator
8 surfer KAnko
9 Fourie
10 M steyn
11 Habana
12 Adi Jacobs
13 Jaque Fourie
14 JP Peterson
15 Zane Kirchner

16 Adrian straus (well deserved)
17 CJ vd Linde
18 Andries Bekker
19 Danie Rossouw
20 Ruan Pienaar
21 Wynand Olivier
22 Odwa Ndugane

He might go with 2 reserve props so maybe Wian du Preez in Ndugane's place on the bench

i think im near 100%??
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By hannesvs2 - Castle Braai recommendations: 0
15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Adi Jacobs, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 CJ van der Linde, 19 Andries Bekker, 20 Danie Rossouw, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Wynand Olivier

100%....
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