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sasuke uchiha

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All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 06:36:23
All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC

Sleeping pills were involved when All Blacks Cory Jane and Israel Dagg were out drinking ahead of New Zealand's 2011 Rugby World Cup quarter-final against Argentina, New Zealand Rugby chief executive Steve Tew has confirmed.


Tew told media on Thursday that he believes Jane and Dagg were involved in a competition using sleeping pills to see who could stay awake the longest.


The pair were seen drinking in a Takapuna bar late on the Thursday before the All Blacks' Sunday quarter-final against Argentina.


Tew said they were dealt with according to team protocols at the time.


"That issue was dealt with by team management and the leadership group in the All Blacks, and I remain comfortable it was dealt with appropriately," he said.


"Sleeping pills came up at the time, but we didn't have a major red flag about it particularly.


"If it happened now, with the apparent issue we have around sleeping pills and energy drinks, then we'd probably take a different course of action. But at the time it was not a hot topic."


Prescription sleeping pills are in the spotlight because of growing concern in rugby league about their use in combination with energy drinks.


The "recovery practices" are under scrutiny in an NZ Rugby League review into the Kiwis' unsuccessful defence of the Rugby League World Cup late last year.


Tew said he was unclear if energy drinks were involved in the 2011 episode "but I was not the person at the bar at the time and so I can't tell you anything categorically".


The NZRU had no immediate plans to ban sleeping pills, he added.


"We play a game that involves a lot of international travel and some people need assistance to sleep in the plane and when they get to where they're going," he said.


"To take that out of our toolkit I think would be a very big call. I wouldn't be suggesting that right now, but we'll keep all our options open."


NZR recently announced it was establishing an integrity unit, following in the footsteps of high-profile Australian codes.


The unit, which is expected to be in place within six months, will cover all integrity issues facing players including match-fixing, legal and illegal drugs, and alcohol.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 06:44:50
"Tew told media on Thursday that he believes Jane and Dagg were involved in a competition using sleeping pills to see who could stay awake the longest."

a competition using sleeping pills, could this be cos the All Blacks dont have any competition in the world of rugby??? o_O

i hope for future cases of sleeping pill abuse is punished heavily regardless of the player. so that they send the correct message out.


Just_win

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 06:46:15
Immature behavior that was dealt with. If we lift up this stone & look at all teams I am sure we will see more than we are comfortable with. Sleeping pills are almost certainly used by most teams. Hopefully not much else.


3ku1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 07:39:50
 CHEATS!!!!! Wake up!!!!


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 08:29:16
 Performance DE-ENHANCING drugs hahahaha ,silly buggers ....


Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 08:35:06
 "If we lift up this stone & look at all teams I am sure we will see more than we are comfortable with. Sleeping pills are almost certainly used by most teams. Hopefully not much else"

So now when it suits a kiwi and its on them, then he will suggest that its happening all over but when I said the same thing about steroid use, I get told that its just the Boks and not the AB's or just SA school boys and not NZL school boys...
Ha ha so contradictory..Let me tell you guys something, it is happening all over..As long as sport is competitive, guys from all over will seek to cheat to gain an advantage and when it comes to cheating, seems the kiwis wrote the book!

You think its only South African's that used steroids because they big?? Your players are just as big but I suppose that was just chicken and pasta hey ;-)


Sharkbok

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 09:04:57
This article is not clear- are they tablets to keep people awake or to make them go to sleep? 
Keeping someone awake is a performance enhancing drug, many of them are banned substances. 

"Prescription sleeping pills are in the spotlight because of growing concern in rugby league about their use in combination with energy drinks."


clevermike

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 09:07:01
I came back from Perth on the flight back after seeing the Springboks play the Wallabies.  The Springboks were on the same flight and like most passengers on a 13 hour flight - they were given sleeping pills by the management.   I suppose it was the way to handle the flight and obviously did not have anything to do with any game.  Don't think that can be taken as sleeping pill abuse.


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 09:35:12
 Boklogic its pretty obvious they were sleeping tablets ,as I said performance de-enhancing drugs [ probably has the same effect as watching Morne steyne ] And what the feck does a sleeping tablet have to do with steroids ?Do you think sleeping pills will give them an edge ? are you that bloody silly ?[ the answers are 1-nothing 2-no and 3-yes !}


Beeno1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 09:45:09
 "NZR recently announced it was establishing an integrity unit, following in the footsteps of high-profile Australian codes." Bwahahahahahhahahaha hilarious stuff from the kiwis!!!

Wherte are they going to get anybody to join the unit. Will have to imnport them. Can you imaging an intergrity unit with ou warped DUD and brother saSUE in it!  crying with laughter emoticon

"Prescription sleeping pills are in the spotlight because of growing concern in rugby league about their use in combination with energy drinks".

Oaks the integritry unit will simply be a unit formed to mislead the willingly gullible nz public and cover things up.
Take it from Beeno the one who knows.:)



Cloudy

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 10:05:00
Sleeping pills to stay awake.....huh????? 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 11:09:40
lack of education is no surprises from the locals here, its par for the course.

important that folks realise that the sleeping pills taken are not a banned substance, the deamands of interantional rugby with all the time zones makes using sleeping pills a widespread practise amongst most if not all teams who travel.

the issue here isnt the pills themselves, its the manner in which they were used by jane and dagg which is the issue.

jane and daggs actions are unacceptable by All Black standards, but still a far cry from the common practises in saffa high schools and actions by known drug cheats like johaan goosen, chiliboy and basson. these three Bok players were busted with illegal drugs in their system.
how fitting that goosen a convicted drug cheat plays for the cheaters, i mean the cheetahs, :getlost:

@partitme sharkbok,
"This article is not clear- are they tablets to keep people awake or to make them go to sleep?"
the article is not clear???
jane and dagg took sleeping pills in a competition to see who could stay awake the longest.

"Keeping someone awake is a performance enhancing drug, many of them are banned substances."
are u trying to dethrone siones lauakis imaginary uncles BFF award with the title of owner dumbest comment on sarugby???

many sleeping pills contain banned substances??? in the wake of the kiwi league teams actions during the RLWC, foxpsort reported that 90% of all sleeping pills/tablets sold in OZ and NZ are legal, and most of the other 10% can only be obtained by prescription.

ask Springboks goosen, chiliboy and basson about what a performance enhancing drug is, instead of pretending to know what ur talking about.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 11:10:04
@siones uncles imaginary BFF,
"So now when it suits a kiwi and its on them, then he will suggest that its happening all over but when I said the same thing about steroid use, I get told that its just the Boks and not the AB's or just SA school boys and not NZL school boys..."

ur not known as the sharpest tool in the shed, thats why u wont know the big difference between what dr win said,,
"If we lift up this stone & look at all teams I am sure we will see more than we are comfortable with."
and what ur poo talking mouth said which was that the All Blacks were all on steroids cos an sione lauakis uncles told u and even as u said provided proof which was pictures of sione on facebook looking fat.

ur desperate attempt to illicit an response was due to SARU admitting saffa high schools were failing drug tests left right and center, and also established players finding themselves failing drug tests.

pathetic much???


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 12:38:23
Boklogic ,one of the side effects of steroid abuse is becoming injury prone ala' Goosen  after the faster recovery and bulking that is.The major effect of using sleeping tablets is a wee nap " Yawn " .


The_Truth

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 13:07:12
The problem is NOT the sleeping pills. It is the combination with alcohol and energy drinks. Learn to read!

The combination (not banned) acts similar to other recreational drugs (banned).


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 13:33:38
 Der toof has a problem with comprehension ? They didnt do anything illegal or banned just stupid learn to comprehend the difference between whats actually illegal and what isnt tolerated by the ABS .


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 13:33:47
 Der toof has a problem with comprehension ? They didnt do anything illegal or banned just stupid learn to comprehend the difference between whats actually illegal and what isnt tolerated by the ABS .


The_Truth

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 14:03:28
 The [removed]ing brain-dead idiot that calls himself Wardad seem to have a problem with comprehension and reading.... Allow me to quote from my post...

"The combination (not banned) acts similar to other recreational drugs (banned)."

Now let me explain it slowly.... The.... problem.... is.... that...... substances ..... that .... are..... not..... banned..... can.... act..... in.... combination..... with.... other.... substances..... that..... are..... not....banned.....(comma).... similar..... to.....banned... substances....

That.... means.... there... is.... at.... this... stage... a.... problem.... as..... the.... reason.... for.... banning... the.... banned.... substances.... (comma).... which.... may.... be....due..... to.... health..... reasons..... cannot..... be.... applied.... to.... allowed..... substances.... even.... though... they..... may... have.... the.... same.... effects....

Or do you think, based on this, that as cocaine or maybe heroine may have the same effects, they should now be allowed, just because the combination of is allowed...

The problem is not only limited to the AB's, but it is a general concern in sport at the moment. I suggest you firstly go on a course to improve your reading skills and  secondly go do some research about the concerns being raised in the sporting world in general....


Arthur John

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 14:51:48
 Can anyone please identify a professional sport played today where drugs/stimulants are not in play?

Besides Curling!!!!!!!!


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 21:08:24
 Dumbarse toofless ,who gives a rats arse what you think ? It is 2 ALL BLACKS using LEGAL medication in a stupid manner as I said ,so what point do you have to make ? Who cares if you think it has the same effect as banned substances ? old news allready dealt with by the ABS means its feck all to do with you .


Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 21:23:23
Ah, the ignoramus that is Sasuke. Bro, you have no room to talk about "sharpest tools in the shed!"

Allow me to give you a little lesson quick. Your sentence that reads..."that's why you won't know the big difference between what dr win said."
You do realise there can only be a difference if we have something to compare to. Eg. The difference between dr win and Mike. In this case, we have only dr win. You dumb [removed].

Secondly, if you read his comment that you have highlighted in bold, that can be taken as all teams would probably be guilty of the offence. If this can be surmised, then why can it not be the same for steroid use amongst all teams or are the ABs the only exception?

Sas, in your world, the abs are the greatest and squeaky clean but in reality, they are just like the rest and a team that has failed to produce the goods countless times in the world stage. When they do, it is in a tournament rigged with controversy.

Ps. I never said ALL the abs were on roids but just like SOME of the Boks have dabbled, so have some of the abs. You can put your house on that.

I have no doubt Sione Lauaki was one if those. Absolutely no doubt!

I do not wish for a response Sas. I have known for years that there has been roids in school boy and pro rugby. I had guys in my team taking. All I am TELLING (not debating) with you is that it is no different to rugby in NZL.


Sharkbok

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 20, 2014, 21:37:51
My mistake, I got mixed up with dieting pills. 

Their is a dieting pill in South Africa that keeps you awake, I think it might have been called thins or something. It is a prescription dieting pill, but if taken in bulk they can be recreational when drinking.


3ku1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 00:28:41
 the rwc 2011 was rigged with controversy, why because wee bryce cost you a semi placing lol. Come on lets be real its just rugby, it aint that deep, it aint the jfk assanation lol. Sure refs are always going to make wrong decisions at the highest level, theyre onlt human after all. But acting like this is some special case, or one bad ref decision automatically means the wc was dogged with controversy is just an excuse you can be in a selective way of thinking. This whole blaming the ref, or conspiracy theories that are apparrently dogging rugby, needs to stop this is fans spreading conjecture, its all cir[removed]stancial. Their is no evidence that even suggests their was any form of conspiracy. Like i said its rugby it aint that deep.


mozart

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 00:36:23
The sheer boredom of being in NZ takes a strange turn.


3ku1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 01:00:37
 Trust me nz aint boring lol, why would it be, talking rugby here not personal attacks on other countries.


mozart

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 02:14:53
Hahaha....why would it be? You are sounding a bit uncertain.  


moolaa

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 02:17:03

 Imagine how much the ABs would've beaten the Frogs by if they were'nt half asleep in that RWC final? The mind boggles!

Look out now that they will be wide awake!!


Sharkbok

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 02:20:10
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Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 02:21:07
 Hahaha moola ,ABS levelling the playing field eh ?


Sharkbok

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 02:21:28
 I seem to remember the All Blacks losing the 1995 final, and then after the game accusing South Africa of poisoning their players. Does Suzie ring a bell?
Or was it Elvis and JFK back from the dead, or their alien adducters.
Or was it a conspiracy of the whole of the South Africa nation, Nelson Mandela spiked the All Blacks drinks.


Then in 2007 when the all blacks got knocked out of the world cup, Graeme Henry stated in his auto-biography that the IRB is involved in match fixing.

When the shoe is on other foot, the kettle calls the pot black....


hakwa

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 05:54:24
 
 
If only they had been awake, they might have won the 2011 in dazzling style - oh well there's always 2015 :D





hakwa

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 05:57:03
 


moolaa

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 06:52:15
 Nice use of the mixed metaphor there Sharkbok! Remember, don't count your chickens whilst there are 2 in the bush....
And what pray tell is an "alien adducter". Is that a musclebound  ET on steroids??


Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 09:09:37
 3ku1, who said it was one call?? That Wales vs France quarter where the ref sent Warburton off was 1 mistake call that was detrimental to the result of the match..What Bryce did was all game long. Cant believe you Kiwi's still try defend that [removed] when the [removed] lost his job and even had the Aussies calling the victory "hollow!" Every rugby man from any country agreed.
Then we saw Mr Joubert on the payroll and robbing the French of all their momentum in the last 20 mins..No kickable penalties awarded when the AB's, with guys like McCaw on the field, were being dominated?? Ag please man, strings were pulled in the last WC and it figures..Nothing straight comes out of NZL..Bent mofo's!


3ku1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 09:23:12
Lol your still doing it with your conspiracy theories, the ref did nt dog the french momentum, hes one person lmao, i dont kno french had no momentum. I never said bryce diddnt havr a shocker, im just saying its very convinient when sa poor performance in the qf contributed too. Its just your thinking the ref is the only factor, when it wasent, theirs no guareentees sa wld if beat nz at home even with a sqeeky clean ref, the abs were awesome in that semi.  But in the present you sa fans still blame the ref, with your never ending conspiracy theories get over it geez, accept nz were the best side in the world thats why thry wan, its kinda pathectic your still bitter after nearly four years.


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 09:52:49
 bok [ahem] logic ,its a bit hard to take your ref whining seriously when you also call the fairest Saffa ref in history a cheat !Dont see you saying the same about 2007 ABS vs France ? All the Aussies quite enjoyed their win the only thing hollow is the noise inside your head !


Beeno1

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 09:57:25
What made it doubly appalling was bryce lawrence was made nz ref of the year. That was shocking.

But let's hope the ref clean up will proceed. Trends need to be [removed]ysed and a very close watch kept on bias. Unfortuantely the rules of the game enable biased refs to get away with it. Its also not an easy game to ref so mistakes will be made. 
Why do the Boks get twice as many yellows than the abs when these two sides meet. Or why did the abs get was it 42 penaties to 1 yellow versus 7 penalties for yellow to Oz and 6 penalties to a yellow for the Boks. There should be a forensic types of [removed]ysis of ref perfromance and trends. Where penaties are given etc etc

Although errors will be made blatant erros and bias must be weeded out - eg bissie tackle on Dan Carter - no excuse for that one.



Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 10:27:26
Always the same dumbarses whining about refs ,it doesnt matter that the story is nothing to do with refs .
Bean[removed] if you make more yellow card offences you get more yellow cards ,even a particularly stupid child understands that but then theres you ....


canrugby

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 17:31:10
Sleeping pills are used by many pro athletes in many sports. So is Oxycodone. There's nothing really wrong with it unless you become addicted, or mix it with alcohol. Then it can become deadly.









Shezza

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 17:42:44
 Pretty sure Dagg and Jane mixed the sleeping pills with alcohol. 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 18:19:49
@hakwa,

copied this pic from u which is a crack up,,,


dagg - "hey jane, lets pop these medals and see who can stay awake the longest"
jane - "sweet as bro, were going to get more RWC winner medals in four years time anyways"

LMFAO, :D:cheerful::silly::woot:


sebastienchabal

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 18:35:13

 Hello Cloudy


Just relax guys....nothing to worry about....just a few pills (ask Suzie to administer them before the match against the Boks) to make you relaxed....lolz. ZZZZZZZ.





Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 21, 2014, 23:12:22
 Wardad, you are literally to dom to argue with..U remind me a little of a kid with his fingers in his ears saying "na nan na nana" because you not smart enough to understand.

42 penalties per yellow vs 7 Aus and 6 SA...12 or 13 is still ok..15 is becoming questionable but 42 is just ridiculous.

PS..I have lost plenty respect for Craig Joubert..He is not the ref he once was..He is hungry for international matches and tries his best to be perceived as uber fair that he actually blows against the SA teams to prove he shows no allegiance...He is not the best ref anymore..What he did to the French was pathetic too.
Not 1 penalty for all their possession and territory..AB's were under the pump and blowing hard!

Yeah, SA might not have beaten the AB's but I guess we will never know..We were robbed of the game that everyone would have wanted to see most..

I dont need you guys on here to justify Bryce's blowing of the quarter..He cheated all game long. This was confirmed the world over..Everyone saw it and the man is no longer around..

PS Wardad..Nice response to Beeno regarding your pigeon english, "if you make more yellow card offences you get more yellow cards ,even a particularly stupid child understands that but then theres you"

Firstly, you dont make them, you commit them and secondly, do you reckon Aus and SA infringe differently to NZL..Are our penalties for offsides, hands in the ruck, late or high tackles different to how NZL commit them??42 vs 6?? Get real knob gobbler


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 22, 2014, 05:20:19
 Too "dom" Bwahahahahaha ! pigeon English ? English is capitalised "u' know ? Dont try being clever when you lack the ammo dopey .And dumbing down is necessary when dealing with you and your mate beandork .
Only someone as appallingly stupid as you gets on a blog about 2 ABS taking sleeping pills and starts his boring little rant about steroids and refs .
You and your mate bean[removed] ,dumb and dumber ! Must be hard to type and hold his and yours at the same time ,clever boy !
P.S. Are you enjoying the grammar rodeo cowboy ?Pidgin [from the Chinese word for business ] English is not quite "Pigeon " English which is what one bird brain would use speaking to another ,hmm...guess that would be appropriate for you and beanhead !


Cloudy

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 22, 2014, 07:36:29
I would rather have Joubert ref any day of the week than some whistle happy ref who has absolutely no idea why he's holding a whistle.  It's a bit sad to read all this stuff....I'd like to see some of you guys grab a whistle and ref an international game and let's see how many boo-boos you all make.  Then we can critique you whilst sticking the boot in and then have you banned to Robbing Island to live out the rest of your pathetic days because you even dared to make a mistake. 

Hey sebastien how are you?  ssssshhhhh susie was not here8-)


Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 22, 2014, 10:20:49
 Dom is [removed] for dumb you [removed]wit..That is not a spelling error..I meant to say that!


Wardad

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 22, 2014, 11:53:50
 I know domheid ,you got owned so badly thats all you could come up with ? Done playing with you its like clubbing a particularly stupid baby seal ....yawn ....who needs sleeping pills when your about hahahaha ....
So halfwit replies with what ???


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 23, 2014, 06:17:29
@sione lauakis imaginary uncles BFF,

"42 penalties per yellow vs 7 Aus and 6 SA...12 or 13 is still ok..15 is becoming questionable but 42 is just ridiculous"

name me one test where the All Blacks gave away 42 penalties and didnt get a yellow card.

"I have lost plenty respect for Craig Joubert..He is not the ref he once was.."
of course u have, ur a typical crybaby saffa who blames the ref for ur teams being [removed].
blaming the ref and playing soccer rugby is what SA do best.

"Yeah, SA might not have beaten the AB's but I guess we will never know.."
- Boks have won three times in NZ during the professional era.
- Boks havent won at eden park since 1936, before WW2.
- heading into the RWC, Boks had won 10 of their last 24 matches, 41.6%
u might not know, but ur not the sharpest tool in the shed.
All Blacks would have killed the Boks the way we killed the walabies in the semis.

how many tests have the Boks won against the All Blacks since then??? zero, which is still 20pts higher then ur IQ.

"We were robbed of the game that everyone would have wanted to see most."
saffa logic at its best, the referee is to blame,,,
- Boks losing to the wallabies in OZ, SA and NZ
- for PDV being the Boks coach
- for bizzy starting on the bench and smit starting at hooker
- for schalks burger knocking the ball on leading to the wallys try
- for brussows weak body lasting only 20mins
- for morne missing two penalties

i admit at the beginning of the year i was looking forward to beating the Boks the most at the RWC, but after the wallys won the TriNats, they were the team i wanted to play the most, for IMO they were the All Blacks only threat in the RWC.

"I dont need you guys on here to justify Bryce's blowing of the quarter..He cheated all game long. This was confirmed the world over."
saffa education at its best.
so where is the evidence which proves it was confirmed the world over???
is this evidence similar to picture of sione lauaki on facebooks is evidence that the every All Blacks is on steroids???


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 23, 2014, 06:18:22
@sarugby.com admins,

apologies for picking on saffa [removed]s.


Boklogic

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RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 23, 2014, 08:35:25
Sasuke the [removed]

u might not know, but ur not the sharpest tool in the shed. 
All Blacks would have killed the Boks the way we killed the walabies in the semis


So now you are some sort of psychic are you? You know NZL would have "killed" SA? The WC is different to any RC game you will see Pressure is different and NZL fold. We have seen it every WC bar 87 when SA were not around. Even 2011 you [removed]s folded and luckily you had Joubert on your side. France were far better. I will tell you know...As much as you think you know, so do I..AB's would not have beaten SA in the semi..

You know as well as I know what every rugby man thought of Bryce Lawrences performances. You know that..Thats all the confirmation I need..Where is Bryce today?? Is he still reffing??
Exactly you dumb [removed]!

Sas, please dont think I give a [removed] about you when I say the game EVERYONE wanted to see the most. You mean [removed] all. I dont give a [removed] if you wana see your brother rub your dads stomach whilst he jerks off rather than the Boks vs AB's but when the coach at the time of the 2011 WC releases a do[removed]entary stating its beating the Boks that means the most, then you know for sure who the AB's respect the most. You can enjoy the wallabies v ab's but you are [removed] all.


sasuke uchiha

Status: Rugby Legend
Posts: 5836
RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 23, 2014, 09:05:45
@sione lauakis uncles BFF,

"So now you are some sort of psychic are you? You know NZL would have "killed" SA?"
im no more a psychic then u are, but of all the possible outcomes of a All Blacks vs Boks  semi in the RWC at eden park and taking the following factors into consideration,,,
- Boks have won three times in NZ during the professional era.
- Boks havent won at eden park since 1936, before WW2.
- heading into the RWC, Boks had won 10 of their last 24 matches, 41.6%
and other factors i forgot
- Boks had morne steyn at 10
- Boks had steenkamp at loosehead
- Boks had spies at 8

Boks losing was the outcome with the greatest possibility of happening.
why do i think the Boks wpuld have been killed, cos like the wallabies, the Boks are one team the All Blacks never underestimate, they always bring their A game, and in NZ southa africa are just like ireland, good but mucj a do about nothing.

"You know as well as I know what every rugby man thought of Bryce Lawrences performances. You know that..Thats all the confirmation I need."
so u know what i know??? how very presumptuous of u.

just as i thought though, u dont have any evidence, only opinion.
ur lab monkey brain is not smart enough to differentiate between fact and opinon.

"but when the coach at the time of the 2011 WC releases a do[removed]entary stating its beating the Boks that means the most, then you know for sure who the AB's respect the most. You can enjoy the wallabies v ab's but you are [removed] all."
OMG how pathetic, o_O
everyone wants to be the All Blacks greatest rival, as that in itself is rugby title worth having.
if u cant beat the best, the next best thing is who the All Blacks say are the 2nd best.

enjoy that level of mediocrity and im gald u know ur place in the rugby pecking order and are content settling for the scraps the All Blacks give the Boks, england and wallabies to fight over amongst themselves.


3ku1

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 1071
RE: All Blacks duo used sleep pills during RWC
March 23, 2014, 09:40:52
 Nz 8 - France 7 


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