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Just_win

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Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 06:05:37

Historically, New Zealand franchises are the most dominant in Super Rugby, with a Kiwi side having won 12 of the competition’s 19 titles to date.

However, since 2007 the Bulls (three times) and the Reds in 2011 have been crowned champions.

With the exception of the Chiefs, New Zealand teams have made an underwhelming start to this season’s competition.

Based on previous history and current form, that could mean four of the five coaches could be without jobs at the end of the season if things don’t improve.

Here is a breakdown of each coach’s chances of retaining their job.

Sir John Kirwan – Blues
Played: 20
Won: seven
Lost: 13

John Kirwin was a champion All Black and is a very popular Kiwi because of his brave stance on depression issues.

Despite having the worst record of the New Zealand coaches, his chances of survival are quite high. The Blues have unearthed some exciting local talent during Kirwin’s tenure, like Tevita Li, Frank Hali, Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua.

However they are terrible starters, lack depth in their tight-five and haven’t solved the question of who will play first-five.

They have played three of their first four games on the road and will improve if they find some consistency.

Kirwan has time on his side.

Employment prospects in 2015: High.

Mark Hammett – Hurricanes
Played: 52
Won: 22
Lost: 28
Drawn: two

Tumbling home attendances, a forward pack often in retreat and calls in the local media for the coach’s head suggest life is tough for Mark Hammett.

The Hurricanes have plenty of talent, with 13 internationals in their squad, but have started poorly this season to go with their finishes of eighth, ninth and 11th in the last three years.

The Hurricanes appear to lack a coherent game plan, making several changes each week and struggling to find the right balance in attack.

With eight games left against New Zealand franchises – historically tough games to win – their chances of making the playoffs appear very slim.

Employment prospects in 2015: Extremely low.

Todd Blackadder – Crusaders 
Played: 87
Won: 55
Lost: 27
Drawn: three

Four semi-finals and a narrow defeat to the Reds in the 2011 final is a respectable record, but remember the Crusaders are the most fabled franchise in the competition, with seven titles.

Without a title since 2008, Crusaders fans are restless. There is a feeling things are tired in Christchurch.

The backline appears slow and attacks too laterally. It also lacks a real game-breaker in the midfield; remember Sonny Bill Williams was the second-five three years ago.

The forward pack has the ability and experience to dominate any team in Super Rugby, but they are playing far from their best at the moment.

With 18 All Blacks in their squad, anything less than a title would increase pressure on Blackadder.

However with a tough draw ahead and the Sharks, Chiefs, Brumbies and Waratahs all firing, the prospects of winning another title appear slim!

Employment prospects in 2015: Reasonably low.

Jamie Joseph – Highlanders
Played: 51
Won: 21
Lost: 30

The Highlanders haven’t made the semi-finals since 2002 and have had only three winning seasons in the last 11 years. In 2013 they were awful, finishing 14th.

In 2010, Joseph negotiated a clause into his contract that states he cannot be fired because of the on-field performance of his team. That’s a bit like a bus driver getting a job without a licence!

The performance clause saved Joseph’s job last year, but how much longer can the Highlanders tolerate poor performances?

In 2014, the Highlanders have played an abrasive brand of rugby. They have a tough and durable pack, but they don’t know how to close-out games, go off boil too often and lack a dominant 10-12 combination.

Employment prospects in 2015: Reasonably low.


Just_win

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RE: Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 06:09:34
Hakwa called for a bench for bad coaches, lol  This article give an assessment of the coaches who are not performing well & their chances of survival.  Canes fans will be happy to see that Hammett's chances of survival are  Extremely low.

For Jamie Josef; he is  in bad shape also but it is hard to figure out what is going wrong down there as he was a good coach. 


Just_win

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RE: Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 06:09:34
Hakwa called for a bench for bad coaches, lol  This article give an assessment of the coaches who are not performing well & their chances of survival.  Canes fans will be happy to see that Hammett's chances of survival are  Extremely low.

For Jamie Josef; he is  in bad shape also but it is hard to figure out what is going wrong down there as he was a good coach. 


clevermike

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RE: Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 07:01:16
 From the SA coaches two has been singled out in another article - namely Coetzee and Drotsky.  Coetzee should have been fired last year already and send to Valkenberg.   He is the bright spark who replace an injured lock by flying in a useless center.   As long as he is the coach  - we might as well close shop as far as the Stormers are concerned.

Drotsky cannot be blamed for players who have lost interest in defense.   He will soon enough knock some sense into them.          


Brycy

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RE: Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 07:16:30

Just coz some of these coaches had successful All Black careers...does'nt necessarily mean that will automatically translate into successful coaching careers...

 

Spot the odd one out.

John Kirwan, Dave Rennie, Mark Hammett, Todd Blackadder and Jamie Joseph.

The answer couldn’t be more obvious as I see it.

It has to be Dave Rennie, the unfashionable, understated coach of the Chiefs.

Why?

Because Dave Rennie is the only non ex-All Black amongst them who couldn’t rely upon status and the old boy network to help him get to where he is today.

And ironically enough, Rennie is the only coach amongst them who is safe in his employment for the foreseeable future.

 

Related: Former All Black great questions Hammett appointment

Mark Hammett’s sorry tale at the Hurricanes is now bringing the old boy coaching network under the most acute spotlight.

Here is a coach who was given preferential treatment to secure the Hurricanes top role in 2011.

NZRU boss, Steve Tew was instrumental in his good mate getting the job in Wellington when Hammett was very close to signing up as the Rebels coach.

At the time, Tew made a big fuss of the fact that Australian Super 15 franchises were making it clear that New Zealand coaches were fair game for recruitment.

Consequently, Tew succeeded in fast-tracking Mark Hammett into the Hurricanes.

Hammett has just overseen eight losses in a row for the Wellington franchise, an appalling record.

But still, I read and hear that Hammett is “nice guy” and that most predictable nonsense, “Hammett isn’t out there on the field.”

Related: Players still backing Hammett

From the beginning of his tenure, Hammett has gambled and lost.

First, he backed himself to quickly get rid of Ma’a Nonu without taking into account the wider ramifications of a Canterbury carpet-bagger coming in and throwing his weight around so prematurely.

Then there have been an ongoing saga of weird selections.

For example in 2011, Hammett benched Aaron Cruden for Dan Kirkpatrick and last year, he replaced Beauden Barrett at first-five with Tusi Pisi.

 

In recent weeks, much heralded, local players such as Ardie Savea, Alaputi Leiua and Andre Taylor have been unable to make the starting XV as opposed to outsiders who have, including Adam Hill, Hadleigh Parkes and Cardiff Vaega.

 

In brief, if results don’t dramatically improve, Mark Hammett must go. And no head-in-the-sand excuses should save him.

 

Judgement day is also fast approaching for Kirwan, Blackadder and Joseph who it can be soundly argued, after analysing their respective coaching CV’s, have relied upon their ex-All Black status to procure their Super 15 head-coaching roles rather than previously building up either convincing records or comprehensive experience or both.

 

This is in stark contrast to Dave Rennie who before he took over at the Chiefs, had compiled substantial coaching experience going as far back as the year 2000 including roles for Wellington, the Hurricanes under 23’s, as assistant coach at the Hurricanes, six years for Manawatu and three years for the New Zealand Under 20’s.

All this culminated in Rennie becoming the first coach to win a Super 15 Championship in his first year at the helm.

There can be no substitute for experience and proven coaching ability however glittering a playing career an ex-All Black can boast.

Let’s hope the current contrast between Dave Rennie and his four New Zealand Super 15 contemporaries becomes a cautionary tale for Steve Tew and the NZRU when considering future appointments.

 

 


clevermike

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RE: Kiwi Super Rugby coaches under pressure; The Roar
March 19, 2014, 07:49:10
 The following about Coetzee and co from The Citizen:-

"People can point to their yearly rotten luck in terms of injuries, but I think it’s starting to shift focus away from the real problem – the coaching staff of Allister Coetzee, Robbie Fleck and Matt Proudfoot have reached their glass ceiling.

For once, I feel indulging in the tacky practice of asking for the guillotine to be wheeled in, because it’s justified.

There’s no denying that the Capetonians have been consistent over the past four years, but it’s rather ironic that the start of a reasonably successful period – an excellent 2010 campaign, where they reached the final against the Bulls – actually proved to be the zenith. The Stormers were superbly balanced during that year, mixing grittiness with some truly pleasing attacking play.

They averaged 28 points per game and dished out some notable sjambokkings on tour because they had a penchant for crossing the whitewash. I certainly don’t think it was unrealistic to assume at that stage that the Stormers were primed to be more adventurous – Coetzee was Jake White’s backline coach during their time at the Springboks.

Or, in hindsight admittedly, was it revealing that the Boks managed their compelling elevation for the 2007 World Cup when former Wallaby mentor Eddie Jones joined for a short stint?

Yes, I’m going to spell it out – I suspect that Jones subtly exposed the inherent limitations of Coetzee.

Coetzee is no fool; he knows the game well and when he’s in the mood he likes to talk about it at length too.

But the record he and his assistants paint is a graphic picture.

In 2011, the Stormers only sporadically mixed incisiveness with what was become an overly tight approach, but managed to win the South African Conference because they maintained consistency during a campaign where the rest were wildly up-and-down.

The next year, their game plan simply became attritional – there was no such thing as attacking play. Since then, there’s been either no ability or willingness to change the situation and the drop down the log has been inevitable.

The trio have been given seven years to stamp their authority and create a legacy.

It’s one that’s becoming more and more unflattering.

Not only have they shown that they don’t possess the tactical insights to create and implement a more effective and viable approach, they’re also struggling to get the best out of a group of players that’s becoming less classier by the season.

Let’s be honest, much of the Stormers’ playing pool is pretty mediocre.

Granted, poor recruitment has been a factor, but history is littered with examples showcasing that the hallmark of great coaches is maximising the potential of limited players.

I’m not even sure the Stormers staff can do that.

It’s time for them to go."

Anybody recruiting Earl Silky Hands Jantjies deserve the axe.  Get Dr Venter in now before it is too late.  He can be appointed as Director of Rugby and get the team selection and player identification - as well as coaching -  correct. 



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