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Boklogic

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Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 00:27:25

Might as well start calling fat Dave humpty dumpty again..So much egg on that fat, red face.. I thought he said it would be the Fofana and Basteraud show but it was hard to tell Fofana even started the game..


Jaque Fourie should have been awarded his try and so should Louw as Huget never had control of that ball and merely pushed it back. 33-10 it so easily could have been!


3 tries to 1 and fat Dave makes the call that SA will never win..

Dave, I keep telling you but you are not learning..Shut the [removed] up bro..You are dumb!


Just_win

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 00:44:59
[removed] does have two !! next to his prediction :angel:


Pine in Ireland

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 02:37:22
 Week after week stupid and dumber get proved wrong. They are officially useless, and have been for a long time. When it  comes to rugby knowledge its amazing how little these 2 two idiots know. Mike should be banned, for all the [removed] he talks, Saffes is plain stupid.  


Beeno1

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 08:07:07
 bok logic would you care to explain your comment? 

Those complaining about Snapster and Mike must temper their rants. No one can say with certainty how we would have gone with some of the younger players like Malherbe, Du Toit and JJ. We may have won by more. No one can say if the longer term building excercise has been done with perfect timing.

Mike and Snapster do have some valid points so don't chuck the baby out with the bath water.

Pain in Ireland when you know half as much about rugby as Mike and Snapster you will have progressed considerably. Could this Pain in Ireland be another mole. Leave the banning bit to the miserable ss board - it's their speciality. 

I from my side am delighted with the win and glad to see a Bok power pack emmerging. 
Once the backline is sorted and we tweak the pack slightly for highveldy conditions we are there.  



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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 08:20:50
Hasbeen if JJ had played it would have made zero difference to the attack. Fury never got the ball once in space, except for the disallowed try. But on defence it could have been a big issue....would he have sealed off the outside. History says no, for this deer in the headlights.

And Stephanie was on, missing a lineout, knocking on and  looking like a newbie. He is a great prospect, but if Bakkies wasn't on the bench, I think it's more likely we would have struggled.

Face it, bringing back Bakkies was a master stroke.


Boklogic

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 08:52:24
 Dave said France were gona win..Not he thinks they will win, he said France WOULD win and the reason was Fourie. He made mention to Fofana having a field day running at the cart horse Fourie.

This was not the case at all..I see Willem Alberts was MOM. What is ou Mikey gona say about that..Willem just keeps producing the goods and will be a key player in the NH conditions in 2015.

Once again, [removed] has shown his ignorance and been proven so very wrong! Time and time again..When is this man gona stop talking and start listening!


mozart

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 09:00:03
I'll give Dave Coenie, who had a fine debut. He seems to have benefitted from the year of additional experience, and the new, non hit, scrums. Understandable with his earlier neck injury. Dave has always been a believer.


Boklogic

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 09:51:08
 Yeah although 1 good test doesnt make a great.Coenie is good and deserves to be there but we shall see in time to come if he can do it against the big boys in scrumming like the Argies and AB's.


Cloudy

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 12:58:49
When do the Boks play England again?  Hasn't it been a year since they last played.....I think Boks by a point?  Would have been good to see that matchup this year.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 14:15:38
Ah good old CHICKEN as stupid as ever. It was an easy call to make that I thought France would win given how good they were against the AB's.


The French forwards dominated the AB's and I therefore expected the French to see more ball than they did against us. Their backs had far more attacking clout from 9 to 13 than ours and for this reason I expected the French to win.


I'm glad I was wrong, the Bok pack dominated the French one and therein lies the difference. It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13............there is no attacking clout with Morne and Fourie in that backline........the only attacking clout comes from Jean, and the back three.......its not good enough and the reason we will not challenge the AB's


But dont worry CHICKEN, you are too stupid to comprehend this................creep back into your dark hole, you plank


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 15:11:15
 "It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13............"

Wait a minute........ who was our 13 against NZ again?


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 16:00:38
JJ the guy who made 12 tackles and missed 1 against NZ in two tests........let me guess given how wise you are.......those stats are poor???????????????????


This is the very reason you form part of the stupid 4.....you must be proud


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 16:17:53
 

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat [removed] was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 16:00:38
JJ the guy who made 12 tackles and missed 1 against NZ in two tests........let me guess given how wise you are.......those stats are poor???????????????????


This is the very reason you form part of the stupid 4.....you must be proud

JJ's defence is kak and you know it. He is quick and that is where it stops. But having said that, this is not about his tackling or defence. This is about you talking through youtr arse again. You are the one who included no 13 (Engelbrecht) as part of our attacking problem against the ABs. Now you want to talk away that balls-up of yours by bringing in his tackling. I am surprised that you have not quickly gone and edit out the "13" in your post where you said: "It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13............"

Maybe we should revisit that entire remark of yours. You said:

"I'm glad I was wrong, the Bok pack dominated the French one and therein lies the difference. It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13............there is no attacking clout with Morne and Fourie in that backline........the only attacking clout comes from Jean, and the back three.......its not good enough and the reason we will not challenge the AB's"

Now think about this. You identify the problem with our "lack of clout" in the backline as no 9,10 and 13. The only attacking clout comes from Jean says he. BUT...... the ball has to get from 9 and 10 to Jean. Isn't getting the ball to Jean part of the attacking clout then? And isn't JJ the great attacking genius...?

Djy's [removed]ken lekker gasyp man.......



Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 16:42:11
Ah yeah I have been defending the bull[removed] relating to JJ's defence all this time because I know it is kak???? How bloody stupid are you?


I like the Kiwi posters on this site, know that there is no issue with his defence whatsoever and the stats confirm that.


No you stupid [removed]......I said nothing about the attacking clout against NZ, I know you are a stupid [removed] and maybe its a language thing......but lets try this again......I said we lack attacking clout at 9, 10 and 13 on this tour and that if we retain it against NZ next year, it will be an issue.......get it? I am talking about the now, the regression you dumbass.


What the [removed] do plodders at 9 and 10 have to do with the ability of Jean to have attacking clout at 12? If Jean gets the ball at 12 and makes a good break what the hell does that have to do with 9 and 10.


My take on 9 and 10 and 13 is that they offer no attacking clout themselves......you rely on Morne making a break or Pienaar making a break or Fourie doing the same.......get it? Better still wake the [removed] up you stupid [removed]


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 17:03:10
 Don't talk kak. You haven't mentioned THIS tour anywhere. Let me quote you again:

"I'm glad I was wrong, the Bok pack dominated the French one and therein lies the difference. It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13............there is no attacking clout with Morne and Fourie in that backline........the only attacking clout comes from Jean, and the back three.......its not good enough and the reason we will not challenge the AB's"

Jy is 'n [removed]ken onnosel Soutpiel wat nie eers jou eie taal behoorlik kan baasraak nie, dan wil jy vir my kom preek  jou blerrie poepol.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 17:27:12
Lets take your inability to interpret the obvious out of the equation for a start, given how thick you are and lets keep this simple.


Would I have an issue with JJ's ability to provide some clout on attack?


At what point did I say we had an issue against NZ with a lack of attacking clout at 13 huh?


If I am saying the problem lies at 9,10 and 13 and then mention Morne and Fourie as the problems, hows does a thick [removed] arrive at the conclusion that I am referring to JJ?


Take your time dumb [removed]


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 17:35:49
 You cannot even comprehend what you have written down yourself, and you call yourself a lawyer.

You were kakking yourself about our "problems" against the ABs and said that the problems are the attacking clout and you mentioned the problems at 9,10 and 13. Jaque Fourie did not play 13 against the ABs. JJ did. QED

Gaan slaap. Jy is te moeg om te redeneer.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 17:43:53
Answer the questions you stupid [removed] instead of ducking and diving as you always do?


Too much of a yellowbelly no doubt?


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 19:42:29
Q:  "Would I have an issue with JJ's ability to provide some clout on attack?"

A: I don't know but more importantly it looks like don't know either.

Q: "At what point did I say we had an issue against NZ with a lack of attacking clout at 13 huh?"

A: Still having a problem with what you have said yourself. For the umpteenth time, this is what you said: "It also explains why we have failed to get it right against the AB's........we have the wrong balance.....our forwards are right, our backs as an attacking force are not.......the problem lies at 9, 10 and 13". We have failed against the All Blacks because we have a problem at 13, amongst others, you say. Our 13 against the ABs was none other than JJ Engelbrecht you stupid [removed]ing Soutpiel.

Now go make yourself a Horlicks, put on your night nappy and go to bed.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 19:55:51
Vlagtwat, you are a born liar.............you know full well given my well do[removed]ented support of JJ that I have anything but an issue with his clout at 13.......but you are too much of a yellowbelly to admit it........instead you just lie......it's your way.


The bit you underlined refers to the now you ignorant twat given in the next sentence I mentioned the names Fourie and Morne............Fourie as you surprisingly correctly pointed out never featured against the AB's.......therefore its pretty clear I am talking about this backline playing against the AB's moving forward as its apparent clueless Meyer has a thing for Fourie and Morne.


So given I am a huge fan of JJ do you think I would have an issue with him at 13 against the AB's? But its just your pathetic misguided attention seeking need to try make a point without taking cognisance of the obvious. The sign of a stupid [removed] and more to the point a liar.


The_Truth

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 20:09:45
 And Lambie basically played close to two full matches at 10 on this tour. Please enlighten us on all his breaks he made and his wonderful defence. All I saw yesterday was that the French nearly ran us to pieces in the last section of the match when Lambie was on. Suddenly their back-line came to life...

Against Scotland (of all countries), he ran seven times for a total of seven metres and turned the ball over three times. And I take it that he "ignited" the back-line against Scotland too...


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 20:30:01
Well Trooooof if Lambie had had the opportunities useless Morne had had over the ears, we would not be having this debate as Lambie is a far superior rugby player in every respect.

Lambie was fine against Scotland as he was in the last 10 minutes yesterday, you are just speaking [removed]


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 20:32:06
 [removed], you stupid moer. I have just repeated what you said. Are you saying that you were saying one thing, but meant something completely different? You jusy cannot get your head around it can you? No matter how you spin it, you have [removed]ed up. If you did on fact intend to have a  go at Fourie as an outside  centre it is OK. Go ahead, but then you cannot include him as one of our problems against the ABs, simply because he has not played for us against the ABs in tow years. You have tied yourself neatly into a know with this one. You want to blame Fourie for our problems and you cannot figure out how. You want to blame him for problems in games that he hasn't even played in.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 20:36:59
No you stupid [removed] I said exactly what I meant.....its you thats too bloody thick to interpret it as that. 


If you were too thick to interpret it as it was meant then common sense would prevail - I would hardly say that we lacked clout against the Kiwi's with JJ at 13 would I?


How unbelievably stupid are you?




Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 20:56:20
 Are you saying that we cannot just accept what you are saying? In other words, we have to first go and check if what you are saying conforms with your general view on things and then interpret, what you have said, accordingly. [removed] mate,you are making Zuma and  Malema look like amateurs when making poepolle of themselves.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:00:57
 Where did I say that thick[removed]?


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:11:19
 Right here thick[removed]:

"If you were too thick to interpret it as it was meant........."


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:19:29
That was aimed at you, you idiot.......you loosely used the word 'we'.......not everyone is as [removed]ing stupid as you are.....you will soon spot those that carry the same tag as you.......


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:29:22
 Gaan slaap. Jy's moeg.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:30:32
 Yellowbelly


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:43:59
 Poepol.


Saffex

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:50:30
 !


Ceradyne

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 21:51:37
 :D


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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 24, 2013, 22:09:19
 @bok log - the abs - the big boys in scrumming. bwahahahahahhahahahaha hilarious stuff from the Bok log!

I dont mind du preez as he does pose some attacking threat and has other considerrable strengths. But as was noted after the match against the French, and as I have repeatedly said, Pienaar presents no threat on attack. Drop him. 

Not much to chose between Morne and Lambie now and so I would like to see Lambie at 10 more often.
Jaque was good on defence and scored a nice try against the Frogs. However JJ is still more dangerous. I like the threat posed by JJ, JP , Habana and Willie out wide. 
Du Preez, lambie, Jean, JJ, Habana, JP and Le Roux is a pretty good backline.
Other backline players - Goosen, Jaque, Reinach, Frans, Allende etc

As often happens we now are getting the defensive issue with JJ exagerrated.


Boklogic

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 00:40:39
 Dave, I dont care what the French did to the AB's, I am talking about the Springboks. Are the Boks the AB's Dave??

Boks look much better in the NH than the AB's do. Our game plan is more conducive to the conditions. We have bigger guys from 1 to 15 and thats why we looked much better there.

How stupid do you have to be to judge one team based on how another has performed..Ha ha and you call me stupid...[removed] sakes Dave..That is ludicrous even by your standards!

Beeno, I think you will find that the AB's are not half as bad a scrummagers as you like to think. Your dribble on the AB's is landing you with egg on the face game in and game out. Hey, I am with you and I feel we can win 2 from 2 against them next year but you make them out to be this crap team yet they are unbeaten. Word wakker my bru!


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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 08:45:01
Bok log wake up please. the kiwi bird brains are so puffed up about the abs they cannot see that they have been ref assisted and incredibly lucky winning games where they have been outplayed. Not a great side and I stick by that. 
I also said last year the writing is on the wall and I stick by that. Seems today others, including yourself agree (Boks to win two out of two).

Abs are not a crap team but not as good as the hype. This has been my consistent and correct assessment. Pack is not up to scratch and too many ageing players. Also refs and public sentiment is catching up with them.
They will however remain in top three next year. But Boks will take the number 1 spot.
Hope that clarifys matters for you Bok log.


Just_win

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 09:21:18
Beeno: are the ABs "peaking too early", lol 22 new players introduced to the team & still 100% win record - first team in history to do so. 

Watch out for the Poms, they are younger & fatter than the Boks :) 


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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 09:34:47
 hahhahahaha JW but I think in truth is that the wee abs are scared of the Poms as the Poms pack gives them a good hiding when they meet. Had Tuilagi been present the abs would also have lost that match as well. 
Should really have lost two matches on tour and it was a toss up against France.

Such amazing luck cannot be sustained.


Cloudy

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 13:42:47
Beeno if Conrad Smith had been playing Tuilagi wouldn't be going nowhere.  IF IF IF......seems to be a word featured a lot lately in your vocab.  Lets wait and see what next year brings cause IF is about as stable a word as beeno lol


Just_win

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 13:52:04
Cloudy: ouch! Lol glad Beeno can take a joke :) 


Cloudy

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RE: Beeno, let me guess..Fat Saffex was just having us all on when he said France would win!
November 25, 2013, 14:00:17
Well beeno gets a bit excited when the wee ABS win and his blood pressure must soar, just trying to help him overcome some of these issues and keep him safe and healthy :)


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