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Beeno1

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Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 18:12:05

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Anyone want to bet against the possibility that the Springboks go through this November tour of Wales, Scotland and France conceding no more than one or two tries?

It is quite possible given that the tourists have adjusted the balance of their game to replicate what will be needed when they come back this way in two years for the World Cup.

The Welsh broke the Bok line a few times early in the opening tour fixture last weekend in Cardiff, but the South Africans quickly readjusted their defence and they managed to keep the hosts from crossing the line at any stage of the 80 minutes.

And they will back themselves to come close to doing that again when they play Scotland this coming weekend, given that they have dropped the search for bonus points that became such a focus towards the end of the Castle Lager Rugby Championship.

The Boks leaked several tries in the final match of the Championship against New Zealand, but defence coach John McFarland reminded a press conference in Edinburgh at the start of the build-up to Sunday’s Murrayfield match that the target on this tour will be very different from what it was at Ellis Park a month and a half ago.

It was much better for us defensively in Cardiff and the guys stuck to the systems, but you have to remember that against New Zealand our goal was different to what you would normally set in a test match. We needed to score four tries to win the Rugby Championship and that was what we were chasing, so obviously our approach was different to what it would be when we are just playing to win,” said McFarland.

The Boks were criticised for defensive errors in Johannesburg, but McFarland is right when he says the mindset they took onto the field probably contributed to that.

The All Blacks, with all their emphasis on attack in that game, also made several defensive errors.

This tour, however, is all about just winning the games, without too much attention to the number of tries scored, and as that will also be the case during the critical play-off phase of the World Cup, it is logical that the Boks revert now to a more tactical game.

The early breaks by Wales centre Jonathan Davies set off alarm bells in the Bok camp at the Millennium Stadium, but McFarland had a good explanation for the early defensive lapses.

He agreed that the fact that Jaque Fourie and JP Pietersen were playing their first games back after spending the last while playing club rugby in Japan was a contributing factor, but there were also others.

If you look at the game flow from last Saturday’s game it did take us time to settle defensively, even for the whole team, not just the guys back from Japan. It takes time to settle when you haven’t played together for a while, and whereas we have been off for the past month or so, Australia and New Zealand have been continually on the go.

There were two line breaks in the first 10 minutes. There was the one where Davies got through, but then there was also a bit of obstruction in the second. But there was nothing for Wales in the second half and again nothing in the back end of the game. So I was pleased with the defensive effort overall.”

The past two weeks have been McFarland’s first opportunity to work with Fourie, and while the centre did have a quiet game in Cardiff apart from the moment of individual brilliance that led to Fourie du Preez’s match-clinching try, he has been impressed.

I have been very impressed with Jaque’s organisational ability and his communication. I am excited about the prospects going forward. It just takes a bit of time to get back into it and as I say, our entire defensive system took time to settle against Wales,” he said.

Big flanker Willem Alberts played an important role in leading the defensive effort against Wales.

“Willem made 19 tackles, which was quite phenomenal. He was our top tackler, and the thing about him is that most of those tackles were tackles where he physically dominated his opponent. Francois Louw and Duane Vermeulen were also impressive and so was Jean de Villiers, and we remain strong across the channel between the back row and No 12.

But what was really surprising was the defensive performance put in by Frans Malherbe. He made 15 tackles which is quite outstanding, particularly in a first test.”


So much nicer hearing the facts than some way out comments by the arm chair critics. Malherbe of course has always been outstanding on defence. The loose trio is well suited to NH conditions.

We have mentoring going on by Bakkies of Etzebeth and Du Toit and meyer continues to show his coaching expertise whilst the ignorant bleat how he is clueless. Bwahahahahahahha

Would like to have seen Deon Fourie get a chance. Man he is twice the player Coetzee is and ten times the player Kolisi is.



sasuke uchiha

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 18:57:19
in 'canterbury NZ Springboks' last three tests against the All Blacks, they have leaked 13 trys.
the attacking mindset might have explained a few lapses in eliis park, but what about the eden park and sowetto???

looking back at the 'canterbury NZ Springboks' test matches vs the All Blacks, they havent scored more trys then the All Blacks since the first test in 09 when they scored 2 to the All Blacks 1, over 4 years ago or 12 tests ago.

'canterbury NZ Springboks' being happy with their defensive record cos they withstood a welsh team missing key players and suffering crucial injuries in the match is a little beneath a team like the 'canterbury NZ Springboks' and their status as the IRB No2 ranked team, but given they are unfamiliar with the proper etiquette expected from a nation not use to such a high standing, we will excuse them and urge the kiwis who are familiar with being on top, to help out the local brus better themselves, :angel:


Ceradyne

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 21:14:42
@Sasu. Looks like you are trying your best to make a fool of yourself. I guess you have not given any thought to the fact that the you are totally wrong when you refer to "Canterbury NZ Springboks".

Go to the Springboks Sponsor page by clicking on this link: http://www.sarugby.net/content.aspx?contentid=21028&fullview=true

Then you click on the Canterbury logo and you will  be surprised to learn that the sponsors are in fact:

Canterbury SA.

You see, the NZ company cannot survive from  sales in NZ alone. They have to have satellite companies in SA, amongst others, to survive. So, instead of being a braggart, rather thank SA for hosting a satellite company, helping you poor sods down there to make a few $s.


poi-e

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 21:25:53
I hate to be the bearer of bad news also but I'm pretty sure they're Godwits of the Canterbury logo, not Kiwis.


poi-e

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 21:27:56
 OK scratch that, it looks like they are kiwis, apologies Sas


Beeno1

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 22:40:38
 Well noted there windpomp! We must always be charitable to those less fortunate and how unfortunate the kiwis are!


Saffex

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 23:15:14
 Meyer does speak a load of shit at times........giving PDV a run for his money


clevermike

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 13, 2013, 23:58:00

Beeno

 

Surely you do not believe the above.   The Springboks defence at Ellis Park was unbelievably poor and same on Saturday - when Davies twice ran around slow Fourie. To be impregnable - the team must surely be able to defend properly. 


Saffex

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 00:02:08
 The Boks can thank their lucky stars Davies left so early


Just_win

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 00:08:11
Beeno: the headline to this article is confusing to some of my French friends.

"Boks becoming impregnable again". They keep asking who was trying to impregnate the Boks & how are they stopping it? All sounds a bit unsavory :angel:


hakwa

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 00:13:38
 er ..sorry...I got lost and ended up on this post - excuse me while I exit again.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 17:41:42
@ceradyne,

canterbury SA??? is this ur subtle way of paving the way for SA to lay claims to all things canterbury??? LMAO, :D


i hope we dont start reading how the crusaders and bulls have won 10 super rugby titles for SA, :getlost:


but not to worry, as u can see by the three kiwis on SA beloved rugby team

canterbury NZ seems by far more appropriate and logical, unless u have information which says kiwis are not native to NZ, ;)

and no, u cant count the kiwis which are all over the Boks jersey, :P

personally i dont think its a bad thing, i mean the 'canterbury NZ Springboks' have played some of thier best expansive rugby ive ever seen in my lifetime, is it a coincidence that theres 3 kiwis on the jersey??? we both know better, LMFAO,  :D:silly::woot:


Ceradyne

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 19:17:11
 Sasu, you do know that the Springboks have actually dumped the useless Canterbury sponsorship for Asics from 1 Jan 2014, don't you?


Just_win

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 19:24:34
Sasuke San : I notice that the Boks have finally realized how dominant the ABs are & they have added "ABs" to their jersey - evidence is shown in your picture below the kiwis. Of course they erroneously added an extra A but I don't want to nit pick - spelling doesn't count in rugby tests :angel:


moolaa

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 20:42:43
 Sasue and Just Win, I too picked up on the obvious Bok compliments to NZ on their jersey. As I understand it ABSA stands for "ALL BLACKS STREETS AHEAD".


Just_win

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 22:04:18
Yes Moolaa, that is my understanding also - but as we are considerate fellows we rarely point this out so not many people are aware of this. Being modest AB supporters does have its draw backs:angel:

PS Ceradyne: please don't confuse matters by bringing up factual information while Kiwis are in the middle of a good rant :)


Cloudy

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 01:35:34
Hahaha too funny hakwa exit stage left!

All Blacks Streets Ahead lol that won't go down too well with all the wee beenos here.


Beeno1

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 09:28:38
 Close the door behind you hakwa there are enough drafts flowing around here due to effects of much hot air.

I figured out what AIG stands for - Any Indescretion Goes. 


clevermike

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 11:22:20

 Hakwa

 

As you probably know ABSA is a major bank in SA and sponsor rugby on a large scale - matter of fact all sports.  Careful - if you bugger around too much with them and they become aware of it - operating already internationally  they will buy out all the New Zealand sponsors and what will then happen to rugby I New Zealand.    :D:D:D


The_Truth

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 13:48:34
 " Sasue and Just Win, I too picked up on the obvious Bok compliments to NZ on their jersey. As I understand it ABSA stands for "ALL BLACKS STREETS AHEAD".


Hmm, interesting, I always had it as "ALL BLACKS SUCK ASS"


hakwa

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 14:01:29
 what ever ABSA stands for does not matter because there are 3 kiwis above it :P - no Beeno, the ref did not put them there :D.


Just_win

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 16:53:42
The Truth: interesting thought process :( very unsavory 


Just_win

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 16:54:28
 


moolaa

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 15, 2013, 22:58:21
 Either way Truth, it's nice to see how revered the ABs are in SA for them to have our name on the Bok jersey.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 16, 2013, 10:28:08
Ceradyne

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RE: Boks becoming impregnable again
November 14, 2013, 19:17:11
 Sasu, you do know that the Springboks have actually dumped the useless Canterbury sponsorship for Asics from 1 Jan 2014, don't you?


@ceradyne,

thank u for that piece of information, and im both sorry and surprised to have to inform u this, but it was the 14th of nov 2013 when u posted that irrelevant FYI.

im also sorry that canterbury NZ have dumped the Springboks and i hope u can forgive them its important that u and the rest of the Bok fans understand that the decision wasnt personal, it was strictly business.
u see, when it comes to rugby, NZ have a reputation of excellence which must be upheld and with no exceptions.
the gamble that canterbury NZ took with Boks was warranted as SA are a good rugby nation, but alas they failed to meet criteria of excellence required when donning the three kiwis emblem.
we do wish the 'canterbury NZ Springboks' all the best with their remaining games and while it dosent need to be said, i will say it anyway, u are very welcome for all the success that canterbury NZ have bestowed upon SA rugby, :angel:





LMFAO, :D:silly::woot:


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