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mozart

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IRPA Player/Team of the Year shortlist
November 12, 2013, 18:45:14

World ranked No 1 New Zealand has the most entries with 14 players, followed by Wales (8), South Africa (5), France (4), Argentina (3), Samoa (3), Australia (3), Ireland (2), England (1), Italy (1) and Fiji (1).

The shortlist for the Fans’ Player and World XV of the Year awards (in order of playing position) is:

1. Vincent Debaty (Fra), Alex Corbiseiro (Eng), Marcos Ayerza (Arg)
2. Bismarck du Plessis (SA), Benjamin Kayser (Fra), Richard Hibbard (Wales)
3. Juan Figallo (Arg), Adam Jones (Wales), Census Johnston (Samoa)
4. Sam Whitelock (NZ), Eben Eztebeth (SA), Joe Tekori (Samoa)
5. James Horwill (Aus), Brodie Retallick (NZ), Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
6. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (Arg), Louis Picomoles (Fra), Liam Messam (NZ)
7. Sean O’Brien (Ire), Richie McCaw (NZ), Francois Louw (SA)
8. Kieran Read (NZ), Sergio Parisse (Italy), Toby Faletau (Wales)
9. Kahn Fotuali’l (Samoa), Aaron Smith (NZ), Will Genia (Aus),
10. Dan Carter (NZ), Johnny Sexton (Ire), Aaron Cruden (NZ)
11. George North (Wales), Julian Savea (NZ), Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZ)
12. Jamie Roberts (Wales), Ma’a Nonu (NZ), Jean de Villiers (SA)
13. Wesley Fofana (Fra), Jonathan Davies (Wales), Conrad Smith (NZ)
14. Israel Folau (Aus), Ben Smith (NZ), Napolioni Nalaga (Fiji)
15. Willie Le Roux (SA), Leigh Halfpenny (Wales) Israel Dagg (NZ)

 

 

There are some odd ones. You have George North listed,  but not Habana who skinned him on Saturday and who has scored spectacular tries against the best this season. The much overrated Welsh seem to have far too many candidates. And how did the utterly useless Horwill make it. Much too much appears to have been made of the Lions win against a weak Wallabies outfit.


Shezza

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RE: IRPA Player/Team of the Year shortlist
November 12, 2013, 19:31:57
 Out of the nominees I'd choose
Alex Corbiseiro 
Bismarck Du Plessis
Juan Figallo                   -  Adam Jones*
Eben Etzebeth
Alun Wyn Jones      
Liam Messam                  - Louis Picomoles*
Richie McCaw                 - Sean O'Brien*
Kieran Read
Aaron Smith
Aaron Cruden                  - Dan Carter*
Julian Savea                   - George North*
Jean De Villiers
Wesley Fofana
Ben Smith                       - Israel Folau*
Willie Le Roux                  - Leigh Halfpenny*

* = What players I think will end up player

I think on the basis of the Lions winning a tour, they will choose a lot of players from that series and they'll probably choose Israel Folau just to be arse lickers.


mozart

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RE: IRPA Player/Team of the Year shortlist
November 12, 2013, 19:53:35
Good choices for the most part Shezza. Not sure about Cruden and Messam. I'd go with Picamoles...a tremendous player...and Carter at flyhalf, even if he hasn't played much. 


Sharkbok

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RE: IRPA Player/Team of the Year shortlist
November 12, 2013, 21:48:27
Each year some or most of the nominations make no sense.

Sitiveni Sivivatu? Does he still play rugby. 

How can someone be shortlisted for player of the year if they are not playing international test rugby.

Has Jamie Roberts even played this year? He seems like he is allways injured.


Last year Francious Louw was great, this year he has been average.

Sam Whitlock was great last year and average this year.

Mccaw has played about 2 games and suddenly he is on the list.
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Shezza

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RE: IRPA Player/Team of the Year shortlist
November 12, 2013, 22:04:23
 I must admit if some of the players were in other positions they'd get the nod Eg. If Ben Smith was put in a different position. Mind you I was pretty sure Picomoles played at 8. 

I think there will be a predominately Kiwi presence in this team as they're most probably going to march through this year unbeaten. I do not see England winning, Kiwi's are too fired up, England are hyping themselves up and are young team that will likely believe this hype created around them.


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