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Beeno1

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Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 12:10:12

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Pieter-Steph du Toit has had his introduction to international rugby and is now ready to assume the responsibility of starting his first test when the Springboks play against Scotland at Murrayfield on Saturday.

The South Africans haven’t trained since they arrived in Edinburgh late on Sunday night and they won’t be in any kind of action on Tuesday either, so there hasn’t yet been a chance for the media following the tour to see Heyneke Meyer’s shadow selection for Saturday’s clash running together.

But while he stressed that he wasn’t the coach and didn’t make the selections, assistant coach John McFarland gave enough indication of the massive regard the management have for the young Sharks player to suggest this will be the weekend when the former Swartland pupil’s ship will come in when it comes to realising his international ambitions.

“Pieter-Steph is just a physical freak, and he has an engine to go along with his massive size as well,” said McFarland during the first press conference since the squad’s arrival in Scotland.

“I am not the coach, and I don’t make the decisions, but Pieter-Steph has made a start to his international career now, hasn’t he? Heyneke has been very good at earmarking and identifying talent. He spotted Pieter-Steph way back before he had even played Currie Cup rugby, when very few people knew who he was.

"Heyneke has a proven track record when it comes to bringing through players who go on to become greats in the game and I think that will be the case here.(UNLIKE SNAPSTER AND OU MAAAIKIE MEYER KNOWS HOW TO BRING YOUNG TALENT THROUGH)

Apart from everything else he brings, Pieter-Steph’s work rate is incredibly high. He is up and down off the flow so quickly, and it obviously helps that in his formative years he played in the back row. His athleticism is a huge bonus for a lock.”

Du Toit has been taken under the wing of veteran Bakkies Botha on this tour, and the pair are often seen together during the team’s downtime.(WELL i SUGGESTED AS MUCH WHEN OU MAAIKIE AND SNAPSTER WERE WAILING THEIR HEADS OFF WHEN BAKKIES WAS SELECTED. SOME OAKS CANT THINK STARTEGICALLY. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

The debutant spoke highly of Botha’s mentorship role when he was interviewed following the 24-15 win over Wales that started this tour and his test career in Cardiff last weekend.

With Meyer wanting to rest some of his players so that his men can deal effectively with what is really a five-day turnaround between the Edinburgh match and the final game of the tour against France in Paris the following Saturday, Du Toit looks set to showcase his prodigious talents for the first time as a member of the starting team.

SECOND CAREER

And you can take it as a sure bet that Botha will be there to guide him through his first start, and in so doing join Jaque Fourie and JP Pietersen in beginning his second career as a Bok.

Like the Japan-based pair, before this tour Botha, who like wing Bryan Habana these days plays for French club Toulon (THAT WEIRDOU ROOITWIT NOW DOESNT WANT HABAN IN THE SIDE AND OU MAAAIKE PROBABLY STILL RESENTS THE AFCT HABANA IS IN THE SIDE), hadn’t had any involvement with the Boks since the 2011 World Cup campaign ground to a disappointing halt in the Wellington quarterfinal against Australia.

While Botha is back with the Boks and there is even talk of a possible comeback for Victor Matfield (NO, NO NO!), Meyer does back the young duo of Eben Etzebeth and Du Toit, who many feel could go on to become even better than the famous Botha/Matfield combination.(iNFAMOUS IF YOU ASK ME - A GREAT LOCK PAIRED WITH A106 KG STRINGBEAN WHO SPENT HIS LIFE AVOIDING PLAYING AS A MEMBER OF THE TIGHT FIVE AND FOULING UP THE BACKLINE)

Botha’s call-up, and Matfield’s comeback if it happens, is all about backing up the young players while adding experience and mentorship to the group.

The team for the Scotland test will be named on Thursday once the squad has trained and the management have had a proper opportunity to assess the seriousness of the few bumps and bruises picked up against Wales last week.

At this stage first-choice flyhalf Morne Steyn is the only player under an injury cloud, although team doctor Craig Roberts is confident he will be in the selection mix.

“Morne has made a big improvement so it is looking positive,” said Roberts.

One thing is certain: even if the Boks do experiment with a few of their selections for Sunday’s game, the South Africans will not be taking the Scots lightly.

They have been burned too often in the past for that, and while there are seven places separating the two teams on the IRB rankings, the Boks have fresh memories of the fright Scotland gave them in a match in Nelspruit in June.

“If I recall correctly, the Scots were leading 20-3 at one stage of the first half and we had to fight really hard to come back and win that game,” said McFarland.

“That was a really tough test and we are expecting another hard game on Sunday. I don’t think they will change much from that June match. Their tactics worked for 40 minutes of the game against us last time and they will be eager to try it again.”

HOW THE WEE ABS WOULD LOVE TWO HAVE TWO YOUNG LOCKS LIKE ETZEBETH AND DU TOIT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY DONT PRODUCE MEN LIKE THIS


polyboy

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 13:12:17
 Here's the rub though Beeno, we DO produce winning teams, so you can keep your 2 monster locks we'll take winning any day.


Beeno1

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 13:17:08
 Sadly poly with the Boks set to regain their traditional number one spot and doubtless OZ will come back ab wins will be much less. Take time now to adjust to this poly is my kindly advice.


Just_win

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 13:35:43

Beeno: poor Bok fans have been living off promises for a long time now.

 

You have had a long time to adjust to being no 2 or lower so the Kiwi fans kind advice is expect very little & you won't be disapointed again :)


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 13:50:38

Beeno - the cloud 9 weirdo

 

Lets get it straight - there is a number of issues raised by you that are eerily weird.   Firstly spotting Pieter-Steph.   We all saw him playing in Craven week and so did the Sharks talent spotter.  If Meyer thought anything of him - he would have ended up with the Bulls - not the Sharks.   That was followed up by the Under 20 WC - after which A girl and I repeatedly wrote about him on this site - still no sign of any interest of Meyer in him.  It was only this year that Meyer started showing an interest in him and saying that he wanted Kruger to teach him how to call line-outs.  Meyer in fact only beat one member of this site in player-identification and that is the fossil-brained Mozart - who is still fulminating on hyper-activity and calling him nicknames to prove his disgust with the youngster - so Meyer is still slow in the uptake.

 

The weirdoism in the case of Pietersen and Fourie is shared by the writer of the article and Beeno - who highlighted the paragraph.   If they could not see that both Fourie and Pietersen have lost it playing touch rugby in Japan and have gone back immeasurably in their physical ability (speed especially) - then  something must be wrong with their eyesight and they enter the fossil brain status in the Mozart category.

 

In the case of Habana I always said he is irreplaceable in the Springbok team - he can play for Ulan Bator (Mongolia) rugby club and he would still be my choice for the Springbok team.   Weirdo please don't mix me up with A girl.  Nice request and a pardon is called for - otherwise back to the cloud 9 King of the Weirdos for you.

 

The only slight bit of realism shown in your comments above is about Mattfield - the backline player posing as a lock.   He always frustrated the hell out of me in that regard.   He went further and is now the attack coach of the Bulls - since we have poblems in the 13 position  - why not take him back to play at 13 - oops don't take this seriously, I am not a weirdo.

 

It hurts me terribly every time I see Morne Steyn being mentioned as first choice flyhalf.   How can even otherwise normal people think that and say that out loud about the destructor of the Dunedin and Ellis Park tests!!!          

 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 13:51:15
 Sam Whitlock has faded this year, but Retalick has been solid. 
Retalick has probably been NewZealand's top forward this year. 

The poor lineouts and kickoff's by the Boks this year was the main reason for the loss in Johannesburg. This also effected our driving maul, which was back to what it usually is against Wales last weekend. 

I do not see this happening again next year. 


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 15:41:05

Sharkbok

 

Despite all his abilities - physical and otherwise - Whitelock is a Christmas and yo-yo player - very good in some matches and poor in others.   Zog Retallick on the other hand is another issue.   In line-outs against stronger opposition he is ineffective - so is he in tight play.  He looks better in open field play and especially tackling.  

 

I still rate Whitelock above Retallick as a lock - but neither are really the top notch locks in the world.  More in the Kruger class - with one advantage over Kruger  - they are better in collecting kick-off balls.  


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 16:25:14

The OOM discovered a truffle when he found Stephanie playing rugby as a boy of two, declaring confidently at the time that he would be a Bok.

 

 

A pig searching for food  Stock Photo - 16665861
A pig searching for food  


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 16:36:25

Mozart

 

This affliction with and affection for pigs - and the pig[removed] on the brain disease you are suffering from - is really getting to be a serious problem.   I hope they find a remedy soon or your brain will soon suc[removed]b to pig[removed] pressure.   Wish you well in that regard.   


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 17:59:45

The pig speaks

 

 


Just_win

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 19:08:20
Sharkbok : see the IRPA  ratings of AB locks as listed by Mozart. They tell a different story.


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 20:04:55

 Photos under this thread is provided as a result of the pig[removed] used in desperation by thr quacks in an unsuccessful effort to correct the malfunctioning brain cells of Mozart and is provided by him through rank stupidity in the mistaken childish believe that they are funny. 

 

I do feel sorry for him in a way - his obvious effort to drive me away from the site using that method will never work out.  I really hope that Mozart wakes up to the fact that his bullshhit will be exposed for what it really  is every time he writes rubbish on this site, 


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 20:14:38

 Shame OOM have you felt rejected? In danger of being driven out of the pack. Pretty soon you'll take your marbles and leave, like the last time?

 

Dinna  worry, it's the furthest thing from my mind to drive anybody from this site. Besides which every board needs a fool, a role you fill very well. But if you feel hurt, the solution is easy, treat other posters points  of view with a little respect....and stop the personal insults.


Either way, I really don't care


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 12, 2013, 21:44:31

Mozart

 

Personal insults only follow after I have been insulted by you - I do not initiate them at all.  

 

Who is this girl Dinna in any event?  :D:D:D


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 00:15:17
Oh sure that's why you have vowed several times to stop the unnecessary personal stuff, only to harden your heart and go back on your word.


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 00:30:59

Mozart

 

I kept my word - but you actually started the rubbish attacks and disgusting personal remarks and kept it up until I responded in kind.  Now I am suddenly in the wrong - I must allow you to go on and on without reacting to it?  It is not the first time it happened so I accept it is natural on your part.   I went so far in a couple of postings I made to ask you to refrain from personal attacks - but their was no response and they continued.

 

I will keep the peace and respond to your comments civilly - but if you repeat what happened after my last undertaking - it will be back to square one again - sad to say.    


Just_win

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 00:47:33
Mozart, you are tempting poor protein deprived Beeno by showing all that protein on the hoof. Cruel and unusual punishment mate, lol


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 01:05:14
You kept your word Mike?  No you didn't. Your tee hee niggling of posters is designed to create conflict. Which is fine, but you do it with the touch of a lumberjack.....with no finesse, no class.  I have no interest in your undertakings.....nor frankly in your views. 


clevermike

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 01:32:22

Mozrt

 

Same here - so we understand perfectly what we think of each other and our respective viewpoints on players.  I will maintain being civil - bit it will depend on you whether that would last.


mozart

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 01:47:51
You will never honour that, as history shows.  So here's what I am going to do. This is the last post I will make directly addressing you or your views. I'm going to ignore you totally.

But something tells me you won't be able to refrain from making comments which wil be thinly veiled digs at me. So I reserve the right to take those on if necessary. But short of that you are off my radar screen.


moolaa

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 13, 2013, 09:44:47
 Now come on boys.....kiss and make up!


polyboy

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 14, 2013, 01:35:39
Man this thread really took a U turn to no where. 


Beeno1

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RE: Boks Poised to select physical freak
November 14, 2013, 07:53:11
 Yes very sad. Moz and Mike were once good cyber friends.
 
Come on you two if Moz and A girl can now get along the same can hapen here.

Well said there kiwis you go up in my estimation by at least 0.1%!


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