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clevermike

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After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 20:39:12

Dear Members

 

Whose strategic kicking game was most accurate for Springboks to compete for possession?

 

Has Fourie du Preez taken lessons from Morne Steyn on how top kick penalties to ensure that it is  not our of the field of play?

 

Who was the problem in the scrum causing the scrum penalties and what is your verdict on the penalty and subsequent carding of Coenie?

 

Can Fourie be trusted to defend as a 13?

 

I have made careful notes and will provide the answers after looking at your comments. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


mozart

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 21:13:47

I suppose if you are two faced and pig headed you become:

 

two headed pig 


clevermike

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 22:07:37

Mozart

 

Are you nowadays besotted with pigs as well or are you just too stupid to post realistic comments?   


mozart

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 22:57:26
Nope, I'm just celebrating your sheer pig headedness. 


kingcorn

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 23:02:03
 What a douch


mozart

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 23:13:43
Hahahaha..... shame did I hurt your feelings after that dumb posting on JdV's missed tackle. So now you are going to throw in little barbs to pump yourself up again? Look if you post rubbish you should expect a rebuttal. Don't take it personally.


Xtramick

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 11, 2013, 23:19:22
I was expecting a thread full of Morne, JP, Jaque and Alberts bashing. You have restrained yourself Mike. Long may this continue. I dont think your [removed]ysis will be any different than after your first viewing. It is already repeatedly scattered all over the forumĀ 


Just_win

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 12, 2013, 00:15:06
Mozart: 

You seem to be getting your animals mixed up. Pigs don't lay eggs chickens do. I imagine you do a better job in keeping your player selections straight than you do with the animal kingdom :angel:

Mike of course continues to act with restraint in spite of those ganging up on him.


mozart

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 12, 2013, 01:39:11
I'm mixing my metaphors again? Damn I thought they had cured me of that affliction. But now I'm left with a dilemma....abandon the pig or the egg. It's a tough call, they are both so relevant. Can you help JW?


clevermike

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RE: After Watching th Game again - a few prickly questions
November 12, 2013, 08:07:50

Mozart - not pig-headed this time around.   At least I am logical - you never are.   Your brain deficiency in rugby is a bad joke AND OBVIOUSLY FURTHER BEFUDDLED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE PIG[removed] ON THE BRAIN DISEASE - HENCE YOUR NEWLY DISOVERED OBSESSION WITH PIGS.

 

Strategic Kicking Game

 

The most accurate strategic kicks - where there were always Springbok players to compete for possession was by Le Roux - eg in the case where a kicked ball got back to Du Preez leading to his try.  Second on the list was Lambie - in the case of most strategic kicks there were competition in the air from the Springboks for possession.   The wost two kickers in that regard were Steyn and Du Preez - their kicks were too far ahead to allow for competition in the air and was a basis for return kicks or counter-attacks.

 

Line Kicks from Penalties

 

In two of the last three tests in the RC - Morne missed three line kicks when taking penalties.   All three had serious counter-attack consequences.   On Saturday for some reason or other Du Preez messed up a similar kick - when he grabbed the ball after a penalty was awarded and kicked the ball aimlessly into the Welsh in goal area about two minutes before halftime.  As a result an excellent attacking opportunity went astray.

 

No lessons needed - this was one of a very few mistakes made by Du Preez.

 

Scrum Problems  

 

There were only 3 scrums in the first half of the game.   In the first scrum Beast was in serious trouble against Jones and a penalty for the Welsh resulted from that one.  In the second scrum the Welsh were pushed back slightly in the scrum (by then Jones was off the field) and it was clear that both of their props - and especially Jenkins - was not handling the pressure well.  The third scrum resulted in collapsing of the scrum by Jenkins and a penalty was the result.

 

The scrums in the second half were also problematic.   The first one was a repeat of the collapse problem.   Jenkins again collapsed the scrum and was penalized.  That was followed by another collapsed scrum.  Why Malherbe was penalised in that case was a mystery to me.  Jenkins had his elbow on the ground and was obviously suc[removed]bing to pressure, while Malherbe was in a bent down position - but on both feet.  That was followed by a warning from the referee about collapsed scrums and Coenie came on.

 

In the next scrum Jenkins suc[removed]bed to the pressure and ended up flat on the grass. He obviously was the real culprit, but instead of being penalized - the ref yellow-carded both players.

 

The first contested scrum thereafter was after Steenkamp came on to replace Beast.

Steenkamp was penalized in that case.

 

Scrumming on the day was a mess - but looking closely at all the scrums I think the real problem case was Jenkins.   On the loose head side the worst problem cases were Beast and Steenkamp - as is evident from the awarded penalties.

 

Fourie's Defence at 13 

 

No need for discussion here - the answer is NO HE CANNOT BE.

 

       

 


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