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black adder

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Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 02:57:35

This was the first series to be screened live online

I think Sth Africa got beaten by Australia in the semis unfortunately after beating Wales in the quarters.

The series has also introduced a new promotion/relegation structure as the sport anticipates its Olympic debut in Rio in 2016

 

 

 For the Kiwis though,Sir Gordon Tietjens looks to have unearthed another sevens star.

The All Blacks Sevens have won the opening event of the new world series on the Gold Coast, beating Australia 40-19 in the final.

 

Sir Gordon says new squad member Ambrose Curtis was quite outstanding.

"The conditioning factors, he hasn't been able to do much conditioning because he's been playing Wellington ITM Cup. But quite superb, two great tries in the final."

Wonder if he's gunna play for the Canes?

 

He says Joe Webber made a great return to the national side.

"He's just adapted so, so well. He's a great sevens player, a lovely step, acceleration, got all the qualities.

"So it was great to see him perform like he did for someone so young."

Tim Mikkelson, Scott Curry and Joe Webber have been named in the team of the tournament


moolaa

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 03:22:06
 Yes Blackadder, the boys have just carried on from where they left off last year. Understand the Blitzbokke (oxymoron if ever there was!) were pantsed by the Poms 47-0 in the 3rd/4th playoff.....Wow, that's got to hurt, however no doubt Hasbeeno will have them at the top of the tree NEXT YEAR!!


redsman

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 05:26:08

 If you watched the Semi Aussie v Saffas I think both teams suffered fatigue from the extra extra time and not to mention the hot conditions yesterday - about 35degrees during the day...

 

Disappointing crowd per TV maybe time of year just getting too hot...

 

Good potential spectacle - maybe need change of venue......

 

Like the look of ex-leaguey Shannon walker - hes got some skills....

 

 


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 05:28:20

 When it counted, we beat that same Pommie team 22-14 the day before.

 

Sa flew in to Australia on Thursday night. Every other team had been there the week. We had less than 48 hours from touch down to first game. We then had a 30 minute semi final with Australia and less than 2 hours later were asked to play a Pom team in a game that no one wants to play..3rd/4th playoff.. Guys were out on their feet.

 

Now you will say, "But Aussie scored 2 tries against NZL in the final!"

 

This is what Aussies had going for them:

 

1. Playing at home

2. Motivation for the game (Cup final)

3. Home crowd advantage keeping spirits up

4. Not having to fly in from another country

5. Not wanting to fail at home

 

SA had nothing to play for. No motivation. Just a bunch of tired guys that needed to sleep. We had nothing to prove. When it counted, we should the Poms who was boss. Even the Pommie coach apologised to our coach for having to play the game. You can hear that when they shook hands after and our coach, Neil Powell, said "Ag no man. It wasn't your fault. These things happen!"

 

Another tournament where conditions fell into NZL's lap. Aussie were gutsy but in the end, they never stood a chance. They had played their final and run their race in the game against South Africa. It was always gona be a question of how much will NZL win by rather than, will NZL win! Aussies emptied the tank on their 2 tries and they had nothing left to give. The semi caught up to them.

 


redsman

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 05:35:07

 exactly the way I saw it Bok - to the point where I switched over to something else and even forgot to watch the final..... knowing the kiwis somehow managed to RIG yet another contest............................. lol

 

on another note even the mrs (who hates any form of footy) was into the fast pace of the semi...  


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 14:28:48
NZ 7s team just too good as per usual with anything rugby, expect to hear plenty of excuses about who what where now and the odd facebook page to pop up too, which par for the course in SA, :D

congrats NZ 7s team, meke meke effort, :)


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 14, 2013, 21:26:10

 On another note regarding the 7's...Our boy Justin Geduld is not a good rugby player. He can not tackle for shit, his step is brilliant but for some reason, effective far too little and he makes really silly decisions. He takes contact and loses the ball most the time.

 

This is the first I have ever seen of the guy and he is just a waste of time. Not to mention him missing that pretty easy conversion that should have seen us in the final.

 

Better we didnt make it there though because it would look like a truck hit a motorbike if he tried to stop a flying Waisake Naholo.

 

I am all for smaller and more nimble guys in 7's but this oke can not tackle. Every 1 on 1 I saw he was beaten and handed off like he was nothing. I have to question whether he is actually trying his best because he is beaten far too easily.


becs

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 12:16:20
 When it counted !!! Oh that's right, playing for the points to finish Third in the Table doesn't actually count, so it's ok to get a record hammering by 47 points at that stage ! Yep, I'm glad you cleared that point up for this female who has no idea about Rugby and must have done something wrong to gain her Double First in Sports Psychology, Boklogic ( Boklogic; there's an oxymoron if ever there was one !! ;) )

Why not just admit we might have got the better of you this time ? It happens.

As for suffering in the conditions, redsman, my goodness, how do you think us poor, pasty English folk managed to even survive day one in that ? ! You should all be used to it !!


hakwa

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 12:57:04
 double ouch :). U tell them Becs (and good luck with that :D).


Just_win

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 13:12:32
 

Welcome back Becks :). We need you straightening out these wayward types (Boklogic and Redsman). We have tried to help them but to no avail.


becs

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 13:52:17
 :D
I think a hefty dose of sarcasm never goes amiss......





Wardad

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 13:59:59
 Why didnt the ahem "blitzbokke" try a bit of planning and preperation instead of preplanned excuses ? 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 14:20:50
@secret squirrel,

cos excuses in SA is a legacy to be proud of, :D


Wardad

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 14:37:09
 Is it the saffa replacement for silverware Bro ?


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 15, 2013, 14:59:26
it could be secret squirrel, dont know why they dont the kiwi thing and replace their trophies with more trophies, lolz, :angel:

hmmmmm it was easy to follow instructions, pour salt on wound and stir, LMAO, :woot:


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 16, 2013, 21:14:42

 Becs, you send your pasty Englishmen to a semi and ask them to play nearly 30 minutes of 7's rugby and then around 1 hour later, tell them to come and play a demotivating 3rd, 4th place playoff. Its world reknown that their is often an upset in that game as its a game no team wants to play and its a game that should not be played. Teams wana be in the final, not 3rd or 4th.

 

Let me ask you something, do you really believe the same team that beat you 22-14 just a day before has miraculously turned that around to now be 47 points worse than you??

 

Come on Becs, see it for what it is. Commentators doubted SA's competitive ability before the game sighting the semi final. The English coach (Amor) apologised to our coach for having to play it. You dont apologise when you play the "perfect" game an put a team away. SA were not tackling. Commentators repeatedly mentioned SA being out on their feet and not their usual, physical selves. They were tackling with arms.

 

If you think that had everything to do with England's prowess and nothing to do with SA being fatigued, then you know way less about rugby than I thought and you should not air your stupidity on here.

 

You got the better of us?? ha ha. Yeah it does happen. England can beat SA..Maybe like 21-14 or something but a record score of 47-0 and you think you got the better of us for no reason?? You are delusional! Take a look at day 1..Thats reality!!

 

It was physically impossible for Australia and SA to be competitive in those games. Every rugby man knew as much but here we have Becs saying "when it counted!"

The legs were not there for these guys. Send England to play 30 mins and let them meet a stronger SA team and I guarantee you 47-0 will be achieved at half time but you take all the comfort from that you need!


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 16, 2013, 21:25:22

 Becs, go onto the IRBSEVENS.com and listen to the audio interview with England coach.

 

He says when asked about the game something like, Yeah, that was not SA. They were clearly jetlagged and the semi final going in double extra time would have taking all their steam. They are a great side! I am proud of my boys.

 

So their was nothing much about "getting one over" the Boks but all about the unfortunate circumstances in which they met. You do realise that due to some complication, SA were the last team to arrive and it was less than 48 hours from touch down to kick off of first game! Every other team had at least the week there.

 

No worries though Becs, in your little world England are world beaters.

You probably thinking now, Damn, I should have probably researched some shit before mouthing off hey??

 

 


redsman

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 16, 2013, 21:50:16
Becs by you guys getting flogged by the AIGs in 14 mins that's a lot more recovery time not to mention you did come THIRD....... the only things poms win is the whinging competition I think every Pom is born with a double major in this.... Kiwis aren't as clever tho so they are only born with CERT I in CHOKING AND HYPOCRISY 


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 00:58:46
Lol. Aussies and Saffas have surpassed the Poms as the worlds worst wingers.  I can't recall a single remark from redneck when he isn't crying about NZ and their uncanny habit of making Ausfailure their dirty man bitches.  All the chest beating leading up to the first Aus/NZ test has fizzled down to a wet whimper.  It is one of life's great pleasures watching the obtuse wobbly supporter writhe and squirm under the leaden boot of AB supremacy.  


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 00:58:50
Duped


Cloudy

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 01:10:54
@becs a degree in Sports Psychology wow Im impressed that's such a huge achievement for a chick.  Awesome you can mix it with the heavies.  My tutorage was 8 bros now I'm beginning to wonder if they really could play rugby hahaha!!!

Redneck has been eating some sour grapes again....not surprising really when all aussie fruit is kak.  Just like your wobblies.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 01:35:47
@becs,

"When it counted !!! Oh that's right, playing for the points to finish Third in the Table doesn't actually count, so it's ok to get a record hammering by 47 points at that stage!"
spot on becs, in the world series 7s circuit every point that contributes to the ladder matters, so well done to england, :)

u dont need a degree in sports psychology to know that pool stages are only important for getting u into the main quarter finals, and how u play once ur in the quarters determines who has the better standing, but u do need a working brain.
so im not surprised to see u trying to teach the least rugby nous folks on sarugby, :getlost:


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 04:05:02

 Sasuke, would the Kiwi's have won under these conditions? Playing 30 mins of 7's rugby an hour before the game, some key players not able to suit up due to injury, landing less than 48 hours before their first game coming from SA and losing in the semi's so really playing the game you really didn't wana be in.

 

All that taken into equation, do you think any team would have got up for that? No team on the circuit would have won that final if they had the game Aus and SA had. No team and thats a fact!

 

It was a record score by the Poms. Never happened before yet Becs is gona sit there and tell us the Poms just had it over us for no other reason. Ha ha yeah, like they did on day 1. Its also an incentive to win your pool as your play off games are generally a little easier if there has been no major upsets. That was an incentive in the first game when the Boks put England away 22-14.

 

All I will get is Becs being smart and Kiwi's backing her up because its against me and SA but you guys all know in your heads what happened in that game and all it was ever gona take is England catching the ball and running in. SA were not even trying. I am a bit pissed off that they didnt try harder. I know they were fatigued but to sit and listen to commentators say, "They are not even trying. They are walking into tackles!" is a bit disheartening. I think they wrote this game off long before it kicked off.

 

Becs, what does your double first in sports psychology have to do with this rugby game and players being fatigued? You dont have to be a rocket scientist to see what happened. You dont even have to have eyes. You just needed to listen to the commentators, coaches and anyone else who is involved in the 7's!


redsman

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 04:48:38

@kiwinuke my old respected sparring partner - I do agree the Aussie 'wingers' are pretty average at them moment - we'll need to get the speight express in the mix... 

 

What is actually really extremely hilarious  is the severe contortions of the kiwi TALK TALK / COUGH COUGH / GAG GAG / CHOKEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! surrounding the biggest CHOKE in the history of world sport (Americas Cup at the hands of Aussie's Captain Spitmeister).....!!!!! ..... till the next RWC anyway.....lol..................

 


Couchpotato

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 05:22:13
Biggest choke in the world alright. But i don't give a shit, sailing sucks and i had a good laugh at every joker/pretender that came into my workshop trying to strike up a conversation about the Americas cup. Seriously has to be one of most boring fuking sports ever invented, i didn't even bother to watch one race.


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 08:22:16
 Oh dear.  I guess when the Wobblies do lose with such regularity the wobbly fan does need to find solace in the achievements of others for gratification. Are you still celebrating England's win over the ABs as well?  My my, Aussie sport has taken an amazing dive over the past decade.  I guess no one talks about the Wobblies choking because no one ever expects them to win.  Another loss from Ausfailures sports player is just an ordinary day in the fetid sweatbowl.   Speaking of choking, how did the Aussies manage to lose against India after setting the second highest run chase in one day history?  Oh, but that's right.. It's not a choke when it's not a surprise aye.  


The_Truth

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 09:08:07
 It is not a question about whether it counted or not. It it plainly a question about recovery. In normal circumstances, with a 14 minute match, it will take just more than one hour to recover sufficiently for the next match. If you double the amount of time played, the required recovery time increases exponentially.

Even with the added motivation of being in a final, the Aussies only lasted for about three minutes in the final. Both teams were screwed after the long semi-final.


becs

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 11:55:03
 Oh dear me, I do declare that Boklogic really has lost the plot this time !!!

As I said, sarcasm has failed to register, hasn't it ?


Right, I made a few points, one was that it always counts to win a match, anyone knows that. It's a given and, come the end of the Sevens Season, those points accrued from finishing in the 3rd spot might just be crucial. Who knows ? That remains to be seen.
Failing to score even one point and losing by a record score was not a good way to end the tournament.

Simon Amor was being gracious, that's what we do, in victory and defeat. All this nonsense about whinging is simply that, nonsense. It's propoganda and, I'm afraid I can't recall a time when an English team " whinged " more than most of the rest of the world, particularly some in the SH, who make excuses everytime they lose the simplest of matches. So, take it for what it was was. A Coach, a new Coach, in his first Tournament, after getting the job a few weeks ago, being gracious to the losing team. Don't read anything else into it.....he probably laughed about it really ;) 

As for the heat, yes, it would have been harder for us from day one. We're not used to it full stop, so it does take it out of us more. But we finished stronger. Perhaps we were just fitter ? ;)
We also worked out our opponants having played them earlier in the Tournament, as has happened before. Clearly, a 47-0 drubbing would have been beyond our wildest dreams, but these things happen. We got the luck of the draw this time. I'm sure it won't happen again.

And yes, I got a Double First in Sports Psych, Cloudy. It took 6 months, should have taken 3 years. I'm an Historian, well I was before I became a useless cripple ( I'm allowed to call myself that, so no problems with political correctness, please :) ) so I needed something to take my mind off things, whilst I still had a functioning braincell left.
But us girls don't know squat about sport, so ? :O


Wardad

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 13:12:52
 Hahahaha red-neck has grown a close aproximation of some [ temporary] actual Man Balls ! Well until the wibblies get arsed again anyway then they will fall off .....again!


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 17, 2013, 21:15:54

 Becs' you worked your opponents out in 24 hours (whilst most was spent sleeping) to turn a 22-14 loss into a 47-0 win??

You still being sarcastic right?? Did the sport fairy sprinkle dust over the English team and make it a clear to them overnight?

 

Dont worry about those 3 points Becs. England wont be there in the end!

 

I am sure SA would have preferred to win or preferred not to lose by 47 points but I think they would have also preffered not to have played so soon after a 30 minute game. Picture an F1 car (SA) vs a V8 supercar (ENG) but the F1 car has no gas in the tank. The V8 would normally get smashed but on this occassion, the V8 wins by as much as it wants!

 

Commentators and coaches alike called it before the game. SA were never going to be competitive. It would have been a miracle!

 

So you reckon playing in that heat after a 13 hour plane trip less than 48 hours before would have made it easier for us. Taking that into account, we still beat England on day one. Imagine we were as rested and acclimatized as England.. Would have been even bigger Becs.

 

SA has nothing left in their legs. You take all the comfort from this as I said because even you cant be that silly to think England turned it all around all by themselves in less than 24 hours. Not just to beat SA but by a record score. Haha Becs, you having a laugh!


black adder

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 00:24:03

 Becs, please take it easy on these fragile Saffas....having a real bad week after the Mighty All Blacks beat them at their home fortress with only 14 men with our B team , their cricket team has subsequently choked.... and an embarrassing 50 pt arse kicking on top of that in their loss to England in the Sevens...

 So their nerves are completely shot and some are desperately in need of some psychiatric services . Is'nt that your field ?...

Despite whats been said, we all know England invented the game of rugby so we always have an expectation of the motherland doing well.

Looking forward to the ABs testing our skills against England, the benchmark of NH rugby in our EOYT.


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 00:34:50

 50 point loss? Not quite. All Blacks "B" team?? You wana think again..We would rather lose to Pakistan in a one off test than let Bangladesh score 500 against us and battle to a draw against them..Ridiculous.

 

Have we really got anything else to prove in the cricket world? We beat England and Aussies in their back yard. We dont wana get started on NZL. Hey Adder, English 7's nearly put as many points on us as your whole cricket team scored in the first innings of a test against us..

 

Dont talk about choking ever. Team NZL will be hard to knock off their perch.

 

2014 is a different year buddy. Its no surprise NZL is the best in world rugby with a hugely experienced team with average age of 29. Our boys average is just 23 and already we have seen them put themselves in good positions to beat the AB's in 2 of the last 3 games...Cant cant Eden park. Bigger farce than the WC Quarter that Bryce controlled.

 

SA will mature and learn to win those close ones (although Dunedin they did nothing wrong except let Morne keep kicking) but NZL will need an overhaul soon. Best you boys start begging SBW to come back and quick... Can a team be more desperate?


Cloudy

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 04:43:29
If it was any other team than the All Blacks I guess you could pen the word desperate boklogic....but seems we have been doing just fine without SBW.  And even minus our two biggest playmakers Richie and Daniel.  When a team can slot in a captain like Reid and a first five like Cruden and Barrett then desperate I don't think is the word I would use, more like blessed.  Nonu is still the number 12 but players like Francis Saili, Andrew Horrell and Tom Marshall have got ample opportunities to be the incumbent.  We don't NEED Sonny but it's more than likely the NZRFU have left the door open for him in 2015 but whether or not he returns, IMO is not that much of a big deal the way the All Blacks have been cruising.  It's the media that seem to thrive on the 'is he, isnt he' circus.


Boklogic

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 05:39:34

 Yeah..I dont know so much about Dan and Richie anymore hey. It just seems that Dan is never "magic" anymore and Cruden and Barrett are playing better. Richie was easily the, an I wont insult the man by using the word worst, but the "quietest" of the AB's loosies at Ellis Park. Read is just getting better and it hurts to say as a Bok supporter but when he is done and dusted and we look back on his career, we might just find that Read was better than McCaw ever was and that is not easy by any stretch of the imagination as McCaw has been the perfect rugby man for NZL.

 

Maybe its got something to do with AB's management trying to preserve their careers. Look, at the end of the day age is chasing all of us. When its your time, its your time. There is always someone younger and better coming through. With all this preserving of these two, do you not think this could be leading to their injuries? I just dont know why Carter and McCaw are often nursing silly little niggles these days.

 

I saw play em both till they cant play no more. Thats what they want. To play the game. Let them do it and if they make 2015, good on them, if they dont, what can you do. Time waits for no man and I am yet to meet a bloke who can stop time!

 

NZL are in a fortunate situation and they always will be. You dont need Sonny. He is a spoilt brat. I was hugely pro Sonny until he decided to ruin some other league players dream so he can hog more of the limelight. Sonny didnt need that. He has enough fame, money, trophies and cudo's. Let the other guy live out his dream and try push for more exposure and bigger contracts. Selfish to the tee! The squad was already named..It should have been too late and Sonny should have understood and appreciated that!


becs

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 13:32:53
 I think that any team should go out and play their guts out, no matter how fatigued they are or they shouldn't be on the pitch. Simple as that. No excuses.
I would expect my players to do so and I don't think SA did themselves proud at all. They certainly could have and should have performed better. You know it and I know it. So quit with the excuses.


And yes, England do have more of a problem with the heat than those from the SH. We do not live with these temperatures etc so it isn't quite the norm for us. You guys don't get so much snow in Oz or SA....NZ is a little different ;) .......so it's swings and roundabouts.

I was being sarcastic, but now I am a little tired of the excuses and, if I got my hands on your players, I would be making it clear to them that I didn't accept most of what they were saying as good enough reasons for simply NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH.

As I already pointed out, it was one match. I doubt we'll win like that again. So stop getting cocky.


The match will be interesting, black adder. We have a new midfield pairing as our centres are all injured, and a fair few players to choose from. It could be interesting and pretty scary actually ! Not sure what will happen. We'll have to see. Still building a team but we do have some exciting young players coming through. Whether they can make it as Internationals remains to be seen.
I have more faith with Lancaster than I have had with anyone in ages though :)


The_Truth

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 18, 2013, 13:56:11
The travel issue is a lame excuse.

The heat aspect is irrelevant, because it applies to EVERYONE.

The Fatigue aspect is a fact. If you know nothing about physiology, the metabolic pathways used in repeated sprints, recovery times required to refuel the energy stores in the muscles, etc, I suggest you shut up, because you look like an idiot.

A statement like this: "I would expect my players to do so and I don't think SA did themselves proud at all. They certainly could have and should have performed better. You know it and I know it. So quit with the excuses."

merely shows how little you know about it. That is pathetic, idiotic and an ill-informed opinion to say the least.

You may know a little bit about sports psychology, but let's just make it clear. You know stuff-all about conditioning!


becs

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 01:04:48
 Oh the irony ! Someone who calls themselves " The_Truth " labelling another person idiotic :D I love that. Tell me, Mr Truth. Do you regularly battle Batman for ownership of Gotham City ? Or are you a new cartoon creation because I don't recall hearing/seeing you at all before.


Thing is, my love, I know plenty about conditioning and I've spent many an hour in the Gym with Rugby players including a fair few Internationals of varying nationalities. I also know about diet too.

So please, stop being rude and accept that SA did not perform to the standard they should have, regardless of factors that were affecting every team out there that weekend.
Also, the comment by BokLogic at the start of this thread, that SA won " when it counted " was the " idiotic " one. It always counts and, it counted greatly in a third place play off, the match that was lost by that very large score and the match where Tournament points were on offer.


Denny

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 01:17:09
 Why else would you be competing if not to win!?


Denny

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 01:17:13

Ditto post.


black adder

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 02:04:45

 Did'nt SA get some players yellow carded ? Anyone got the juicy details?

 

 Did'nt see the game but sounds like discipline was a problem again for SA if thats the case.

Losing a player especially in the Sevens game can be a game breaker .

 

Every point counts in the IRB Sevens and the objective is to win by accumulating as many points as you can throughout the series  . To say the game between 3rd and 4th should'nt be played is another 'classic' from the dumb blonde boob job.

 

There is also always national pride to play for unless you have a defeatist attitude then you should'nt be in the team in the first place. Especially considering Rio Olympics is just around the corner.

 

But if the ABs fans had used the excuse of jet lagg or even lack of fitness for losing at Ellis park they would've got laughed off the forum.  


Just_win

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 07:46:44
Becs: well said, lol

The_Tooth: talk about letting ignorance set you up for a fall, wow man you take the cake. You don't even know Becs or anyone else on this site. None of us really know each other - their backgrounds, rugby experience, etc. So making assumptions like you do can only be ignorance or a wind-up.

Have some fun on here mate, but unless you want to take a beating I would lay of the insults based on assumptions. Some people on here really do know something about rugby & sports.


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 10897
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 08:26:46
Have to tip my hat to Boklogic, Redsman and the Truth for attempting to explain the plain facts to kiwi bird brain denialists. Please understand though that such attempts seldom bear fruit due to their severe denialist, delusional state of "mind" Bwahahahahhahahahaha

However I was surprised (and at the risk of getting a brolley whipping) by lady Becs getting it so wrong and leaving reason far behind in her take on matters!

Perhaps it was the euphoria of beating the Blitzbokke? Anyhow I do hope she returns to her usually sane self in time.


sasuke uchiha

Status: Rugby Legend
Posts: 5810
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 11:21:51
i love how pathetic others look in trying to win a rugby argument by bringing up the cricket and boat racing, its a classic, :oD

@siones uncles BIFF,

"Sasuke, would the Kiwi's have won under these conditions? Playing 30 mins of 7's rugby an hour before the game, some key players not able to suit up due to injury, landing less than 48 hours before their first game coming from SA and losing in the semi's so really playing the game you really didn't wana be in"
OMG ur whinny baby, start a facebook page and tell someone who gives a fuck, cos i dont care about ur 1,000,000 excuses for every loss a SA team suffers.
NZ 7s are No1 and were going to win the 7s world series again just like we did the 11 other times.

it fills me with disgust to read ur posts siones uncles BIFF, the pitiful excuses only add to the credibility of ur character as whole.
work on improving that image, cos its obvious ur rugby teams are never going to help u, :ninja:


DbDraad

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 854
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 11:45:09
 Sas, giving context is not always an excuse.  You get discussed too easily. We all know it was our own stupid logistics to arrive too late, but it was still a valid reason for a bit of under performance. No one is saying we would have won if it wasn't for that and such comments take nothing away from the eventual winners.


Beeno1

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Posts: 10897
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 11:55:32
 saSUE  only wants to discuss what suits him unfortunately and nevr let facts get in the way! rolling laughter (#7) rolling laughter (#7) rolling laughter (#7)
Keep your shirt on saSUE  some folk here look deeper than the scorebord. 


hakwa

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2289
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 11:58:49
 


Beeno1

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RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 11:59:58
 Draad please get your logic right. If a team has to play against an exhausted team it does take away from the win - ditto when you play 14 men for 50 minutes due to a very bad ref error.
Dont be bullied by ou saSUE getting all petulant. rolling laughter (#7)


DbDraad

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 854
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:03:39
 Beend, shit happens.  We need to learn to live with it. 


hakwa

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2289
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:06:05
 


DbDraad

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 854
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:08:07
 Nagwa, we got it the first time. 


hakwa

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2289
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:10:42
 


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 10897
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:27:21
 Watch it Draad ou hakwa is launching one of his pictorial cmpagns against you!


hakwa

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2289
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 12:29:23
 


sasuke uchiha

Status: Rugby Legend
Posts: 5810
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 18:36:42
 @judge draad,

"Sas, giving context is not always an excuse.  You get discussed too easily. We all know it was our own stupid logistics to arrive too late, but it was still a valid reason for a bit of under performance. No one is saying we would have won if it wasn't for that and such comments take nothing away from the eventual winners."
ur spot on there judge draad, but giving context and then insinuating other teams wouldnt have fared any better under the circumstances and given that the character of siones imaginary uncles BFF who is a known whiner, makes it impossible to think of it as nothing other then ur average saffa rugby fan crying 'again'.
we are after all talking about a person who credits the All Blacks success to referees  and nothing else, and who suggested that the All Blacks used banned substances cos someone said so and showed him pictures of an overweight sione lauaki, :getlost:

be that as it may, everyones entitled to their opinion, what i do know is that when any team wins, u will find that the bulk of the kiwis will come out and congratulate the winners, while others will dive straight into the logistics of how it all went wrong.
nothing wrong with not congratulating mind u, after all some are more classy then others and in NZers case, i guess were just use to the proper etiquette that follows after a win, :P

FYI, it was a very valid reason for under preforming, and i doubt any team could do much under the circumstances.
buuuuuut, if any team could, it would prob be the NZ 7s team, we are after all the undisputed 7s rugby masters of the universe powered by greyskull, :D


The_Truth

Status: Baby Bok
Posts: 157
RE: Gold Coast Sevens
October 19, 2013, 20:51:35
 "...I've spent many an hour in the Gym with Rugby players including a fair few Internationals of varying nationalities."

Yeah, I can imagine!!!

"...regardless of factors that were affecting every team out there that weekend."

So, every team out there played a 30 minute semi-final approximately one hour before they had their final matches...
Even the Aussies with the added motivation of being in the final only lasted three (3) minutes... And they had an extra 20 minutes recovery time...


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