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Boklogic

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Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 03, 2013, 21:10:45

All Blacks centre Conrad Smith remains haunted by memories of the 1995 World Cup final defeat by the Springboks at Ellis Park.

Smith and Ma'a Nonu set a new world record of 51 Tests as a midfield combination at the famous ground this weekend.

Conrad Smith was 13 when Joel Stransky struck the World Cup winning extra time drop goal, and he says it still hurts.

"Looking back on it I do enjoy it a little bit more but took me a while to get the courage even to watch the movie about it and the documentary. I refused to watch it for a while but started the healing process."

The All Blacks have come through their final major training session unscathed and have a captain's run at Ellis Park tomorrow.
 
Not to worry Conrad..That was a 3 point loss. This weekend is going to hurt even more and you wont be a 13 year old kid looking back. You will be on the field. Definately one the Kiwi's wont want to watch again!
 
Come on the Bokke!!!!!!!


ntanga

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 00:11:58
 Ooh, how I feel for the poor wee ABs Lads, its a pity I won't be nearby to give each of them a lolly to sooth them when they leave SA empty handed.   


polyboy

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 00:38:44
Must say I think winning this match means more to Saffers than Kiwi's judging by some of the vitriolic remarks. There still seems to be a myth that the Bok forwards are feared even though the AB winning record blows this fallacy out of the water big time.  The AB's win either way, lose this match heck its just one loss AB's 38 Boks 15 (or whatever) and AB's will still be recognized as World Champs and the best rugby team  on the planet as well as the most recognizable and the team all nations measure themselves against yes the AB's shoulder a lot being the best. So have a big lolly bag ntanga.


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 01:24:28
Yup. You're right poly. Boks and their fanboys need this win far more than the ABs and their supporters.  It's been a few years since the Boks have beaten the ABs and the rabid fanboys are frothing at the mouth anticipating a comfortable Bokke victory this weekend. The stars are aligned, the stage is set, the ref sufficiently spooked.   ABs needn't bother turning up given the cocksure attitudes of many forum members.  Bokke fans have a lot invested in this weekends match. A loss for them here and I fear we'll see a mega-meltdown of unparalleled voracity.  It will be chaos.  Bokke fans will be inconsolable and when they finally regain a semblance of composure we will be inundated with the same tired excuses they roll out after every loss. I don't need to catalogue them here. We've all heard the before......ad infinitum. 

Yeah, the fanboys love to promulgate the myth of SAn menace and forward supremacy as though opposition sides are terrified of their slow, immobile, lumbering heifers. The players themselves have bought into this fairytale and fall prey to the national expectation that they must impose themselves on the opposition. This of course leads to mind numbingly dumb displays of senseless thuggery as w'eve seen from Greyling, Flip and the DuPlessis brothrs.  They really are legends in their own minds.  


Cloudy

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 05:44:06
Just give them a bigger shovel to dig a bigger hole. it will be a hard fought battle but ABS will be just fine.


Just_win

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 06:28:04
Just keep digging boys, lol  we have put in an order of tissues for all Bok fanscrying and sniffling emoticonand they should be in SA in time for post game depression.


Beeno1

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 08:47:37
 kiwi bird brains allow me to give you the context. Meyer took over a team in a shambles. 4 years of the quota coach pdv , a hatter of note and the laughing stock of world rugby, had left the team in ruin.
Now all sensible rugby writers and followers of the game know the Boks are steadily getting better. So regardless of the result tomorrow it is only a matter of time before we take the number 1 spot and I believe that will be in 2014 as I have consistently said since Meyers appointment.
So no tissues needed regardless as I am confident in the trendline. 
By the way kiwis the bookies are also backing the Boks to win. It make sense as they are the better team. happy-smiley03


Brycy

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 09:19:04

 Bean Brain the bookies are paying $ 6.50 for the SA win whereas NZ $1.09 to win.

Nice try though at cooking the books. 

Old habits must die hard for you dodgy accountants  .


Beeno1

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 09:57:03
 Brycy ya mutt this may help you. Please note that I am talking about the Bookies say Boks will win the match.

The Springboks, Argentina, the Sharks, Western Province and the Cheetahs are all favourites to win this weekend, writes GARY LEMKE.

The good news is that the Springboks will beat the All Blacks at Ellis Park. The bad news is that the New Zealanders will get at least one bonus point, which will be enough to secure them the Castle Rugby Championship. That's the way the bookies see things unfolding in Johannesburg.

One of the more interesting bets on offer is that the Boks are 6-1 to lift the title. That's in the event of them running in four tries or more and restricting the All Blacks to no bonus points. Therefore a scoreline in the region of 33-21 to the Boks would likely give them the trophy and punters the chance to cash in at 6-1.

Yet, if you want to back the All Blacks to win the Rugby Championship then you'd have to buy money. They're at 1-10 to lift the trophy, which means for every R10 you put down you only get R11 back in return, whereas for every R10 you stick on the Boks you'd get R70 in return, if they claimed the silverware.

So, the odds are that it will be a bittersweet victory for the Boks. The online bookies, includingMarshalls World of Sport, have set the handicap spread between the two teams – at around the even-money (double your money) odds – at two points. Therefore, the All Blacks start 2-0 down. If you fancy the Boks to win (and want to double your money) then they will need to be three points or more ahead when Nigel Owens blows the final whistle.

Possibly the value can be held in some of the following bets available (remember the second figure is your stake and your return is to add both figures):

30-10: Boks to score first with a penalty and go on to win.
40-10: Boks to score first with a penalty and go on to lose.
190-50 (I like this one): All Blacks to score first with a penalty and Boks go on to win.
60-10: Boks to be leading at half-time but All Blacks win.
60-10: All Blacks to be leading at half-time but Boks win.
110-80: Boks to lead at half-time and win.

In the other Rugby Championship match, Argentina have been priced up to claim the scalp of Australia, which would signal a nightmare campaign for new Wallabies coach Ewen McKenzie. In straight betting – ie, which side will win – Argentina are 5-6 which means for every R60 you put on them you get a R110 return, while for Australia (21-20) for every R60 you put on them to win (and they did) you'd receive R123 in return.

In the Currie Cup betting, based on the even-money spread, the Cheetahs are favourites to beat Griquas by three points – the wheels fell off for the Kimberley boys last week and I reckon the Cheetahs are good value to be backed at the odds here. Western Province are fancied to beat the Lions by at least five points at Newlands and the Sharks are favourites to go to Loftus and topple the Bulls, by at least two points.


Beeno1

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 09:59:39
Its a full time business correcting my friend brycy. Either his manners are not quite right or its his facts -even down to his getting the time of day wrong! rolling laughter (#10)rolling laughter (#10) rolling laughter (#10)


moolaa

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 11:18:25
 Conrad has a great memory all right. He aimed to put things right after what he saw in 1995 and that's why he has the best winning % of games he has played in of any rugby player in history!
Perhaps the Bok players should attempt to emulate this record instead of the record for most eye gouges, bites, headbutts and forearm smashes.


Boklogic

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 11:26:14
 Brycy, you dumb critter, Beeno is not talking about the rugby championship. He is talking about the match. Boks are paying $2.05 and AB's $1.70 at the TAB.

Also at the TAB is the bundle "Will Brycy ever amount to anything more than a dole hugging, racist piece of shit?"

$1.01 says no vs $500 for yes!!


polyboy

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RE: Conrad Smith says memories of '95 still hurt
October 04, 2013, 12:28:01

Boklogic can understand the "Brycy" tirade except for "racist" you know something rest of rugby world doesn't????


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