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ntanga

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1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 10:36:01

for Flip Flop.



Springbok lock Flip van der Merwe has been suspended for one week and will miss Saturday's Test against the All Blacks in Johannesburg.

A SANZAR judicial hearing found Van der Merwe guilty of contravening Law 10.4(e) Dangerous Tackling, which also constituted a breach of Law 10.4 (a) Striking after he was cited during a match at the weekend in The Rugby Championship.

The incident occurred in the 39th minute of the match between South Africa and Australia at Newlands Stadium in Cape Town on Saturday.

The SANZAR judicial hearing was held via video conference on Monday.

In his finding, Nicholas Davidson ruled the following:

The player was initially sin-binned for a dangerous tackle but the citing alleged a deliberate striking. After hearing from the player's counsel, the player and Ian Schwartz, the Springbok manager.

The judicial officer concluded that this was a breach of Law 10.4 (e) as a dangerous tackle executed high and leading with the forearm and without any attempt to grasp the player in the initial contact. It was also a strike under Law 10.4 (a) but not intentional as cited. Mike Mika, a former professional player, assisted the judicial officer.

Van der Merwe has a good disciplinary record at international and Super Rugby level and has never before been suspended.

Schwartz spoke extremely well of him as a player and a personality in the game. Although breach was denied, the judicial officer concluded that his record and conduct including a concerned approach to the Australian player (Joe Tomane) warranted a discount to a one-week suspension only. 


ntanga

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 10:38:24
 So, would this be the time PSD get a chance to front up against the wee feeble ABs forwards?


sasuke uchiha

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 10:44:30
i always had the feeling that du toit would have been selected over flip for the All Blacks anyway.
regardless, du toit is a way better option over flip, but i think krugers going to get the nod ahead this week.


Beeno1

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 10:44:48
A great pity as he was needed for Saturday. Glad they realised it was unintentional as it may stop all the squealings we have been having from the kiwis.

How many months has that serial thug nonu got? His tackle on jean could have led to a fatality.


Brycy

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 10:55:19

 Bean Brain try to keep a full contingent of yarpies on the field on Saturday as you've already used up that 14 man excuse card, the persecution card and the victim card .

 

Somehow i doubt whether those neanderthol forwards of yours will be able to help themselves and try some cheap shot - brains not being you yarpies strong point.

 

Remember discipline is yr weakness -you can play hard (like the ABs) without playing dirty.


clevermike

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 11:07:43

Problem, is that  Meyer will select the less-impressive Kruger to start and will put Du Toit on the bench.   Kruger just does not make the grade as an international lock.   He has no grunt at all and his line out performance is questionable.   Du Toit should be in the starting line up and oppose Retallick - whose line out skills is limited in any event.   With Etzebeth opposing Whitelock and Du Toit opposing Retallick - we will have good line out Jumpers that could take the All Black throw ins at line outs and that will force the All Blacks to use Read as their only really effective line out jumper.   Pity we do not have a player that can jeopardise that strategy by the All Blacks in line outs as well.

 

With Kruger around that would not be the case.    


hakwa

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 11:27:33
 only one week????????? how the heck is that not intentional? From where Tomua started running from, Flip had time to have a cup of tea and biscuit, plan and execute - just like that Bismarck elbow on Messam trachea :angry:. The weak SANZAR Judicary yet favouring another Bok thug. Think Greyling, Bismarck and now Flip......and that Dr Jannie eye gouge???? Such bias is getting too regular and too obvious tsk tsk tsk! Hakwa preaching the hard truth.


bluebok

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 12:04:36
 Finally back online! Anyway, I also think it was intentional by flip. I don't like him, his ball handling is crap and he is a penalty machine. His grunt is usefull for scrums & rucks etc, but outside that he is a big clumsy liability! A dirty player and the sooner we can replace him permanently in the Bok squad the better.


hakwa

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 12:30:05
 darn, bluebok, u sure know how to take the fighting wind out of someone's sails :D


CleanCut

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 12:39:23
 
Since he came on the scene he's been nothing but trouble. First for the Bulls and now for the Bokke.

Attracts penalties like [removed] does flies. 

One needs a little more than physicality and grunt. Talent and skill would be a pleasant surprise.

Meyer's hand has now been forced by this stupidity.

Let's see what Meyer comes up with ... hopefully he won't slot Du Toit into the starting 15 but rather from the bench in the last 30 ... depending of course on how Kruger's playing.


bluebok

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 12:50:46
 Hakwa you sneaky bugger!!!


kingcorn

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 13:13:54
Flip just pisses me off :angry:, I keep trying to look at positives in his game. Yes, he is good in the ruck and gives us the needed power come scrum time to dominate. But to give away 5 penalties a game or being yellow carded is just not worth it. I know bakkies has had his time but I almost feel that we need him now and we just need to work on the next crop of youngsters until they are ready. Kruger and Flip are journeyman that just don't add any value to the squad or even the match day. I would almost move alberts to 4 and put PSDT or Kolisi at 7. How many line out options do you need?


Ceradyne

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 13:35:02
 @hakwa. Oh boo hoo. Flip is only banned for a week. The net result is that he will not be playing against NZ in the final RC game of the series this week. Had he been banned for four weeks the net result would still have been the he would not be playing against NZ in the final RC game of the series this week.

But that thug Nonu will be playing.....................




PS. Flip used his elbow to guard his sore shoulder. :D


kingcorn

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 13:53:40
 Hakwa, I feel for you man. NZ would have been better off if Flip wasn't banned, but the boks do need some help to get Meyer to select the right players.


mozart

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:27:31

This is so typical. When Flip Flop came on the scene I coined the name Flip Flop.....to me he seemed an ordinary player with a penchant for giving away stupid penalties, and clumsy defence. I warned he would one day give away a penalty that would lose a test....with his silly elbow on Saturday, he may in fact have given away the RC, time will tell.

 



 

But oddly I think he is a loss for Saturday. Up till the infraction he had played his best Bok test....adding grunt to the pack. Fortunately with an athlete like Etzebeth available, we have enough capacity to deal with Flip's inability to soar in the lineouts. I questioned Meyer on this but he was right, they are a powerful combination.



 

I have no problem starting Kruger against Oz, but against NZ he inhibits our strategy of dominating the tight exchanges. If we had another decent loose forward available, perhaps we could have started Alberts at lock. But who would replace him Kolisi or Coetzee? Those two just aren't test flanks. As for Stephanie he is for next year, it would be a gamble to start him, especially as he hasn't played much rugby for four months. And Meyer doesn't strike me as a gambler.

 



 

So the loss of Flip Flop is big.....and I would never have thunk it.


kingcorn

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:37:23
 Mozart, we have a problem with our locks. We have become so use to the Matfield / Botha combo that we never spend time investing in other locks. We then had Bekker, but a few injury ridden seasons, decided to pack his bags and head to Japan to preserve his career. 

Good youngsters knocking about but not guys I would pick to play the all blacks this week. I still think PSDT is a better option than Kruger but Meyer will stick with what he knows and will never make such a big gamble.


clevermike

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:39:06

Mozart

 

Alberts is a non-factor in any position he plays in.   He is not a lock - as he is useless in line outs.   We should in fact try him out as a prop - maybe he is of value there since he definitely is not a loosie of value.

 

Your constant unwarranted attacks on Du Toit is not justified at all.   He is definitely a better line out jumper and he is athletic - which none of our loosies are.  And he has got grunt - which Kruger lacks completely.

 

We need good ball handlers amongst our forwards.  Etzebeth has that ability and so has Bismarck and Strauss - but our loosies do not have much ability in that component of the game.   So we actually need another player with that ability and that player is definitely Du Toit.     


Sharkbok

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:47:42
 Do All Black teams raise citings to the IRB/Sanzar of teams they are going to play the next week 8-)?


mozart

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:52:39
Every young lock struggles in their first tests. Even Etzebeth who is the best young lock to hit the scene in 10 years was in trouble in his first tests. So KC we can play Stephanie, but it would be hardly fair on the player or the team. Equivalent to starting Gaffie at flyhalf against NZ before he had any test experience. But if Meyer senses he can't win with Kruger, he is a bold enough decision maker to start Stephanie.


clevermike

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:58:07

Mozart

 

The mans name is not  Stephanie - so please stop that bit of mischief. 


clevermike

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 14:58:08

Mozart

 

The mans name is not  Stephanie - so please stop that bit of mischief. 


mozart

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 15:06:32

Pffffffffffffff....eina. That hurt! And twice nogal, the old coot is really steamed up about this.8-)


hakwa

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RE: 1 Week Ban for
September 30, 2013, 17:03:25
 funny Ceradyne, very funny haha:angry: .......ok, I admit it was actually funny hahahahahahahahahahaha that's a good one "Using his elbow to guard his shoulder" hehehehehehehehe! 



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