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clevermike

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Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 24, 2013, 19:27:53
He did play for the WP today and even managed to score a try following up on a ball kicked into space by Elstadt of all people. At least that was a positive.

I was watching him playing today and I must say the display he put up was in fact dismal. From what I saw in the whole match his defenxe was a horror story. As far as i could see during the whole game he attempted to make six tackles. He completely missed three of those - made 2 - and the final one was dangerous tackle attempt for which he was penalised.

The last attempted tackle comprises a shoulder charge - no arms used - and the ball carrier swung out of it and continued with his move. De Jongh's second attempt resulted in a tackle- but the Griquas lost the ball in the resulting maul and after a kick downfield Kolbe within a minute scored a try - all for nothing and the players were called back and a penalty awatded against WP.

What was further bad was two blatant knock-ons by him so on balance he was not worth having in the team. That despite the try - since any backline player following up the kick would have scored it in any event.

This guy must have been borne under a lucky star - he remains in Meyer's squad - but if ever there was an iffy player - he is it.


Beeno1

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 24, 2013, 20:09:49

Mike the team picked by ou Alistair will not do the job. I will not be surprised if Lions win next week against WP. Allistair loves his small players. We were very lucky to win against Griguas.

I would like to see De Jongh tried on the wing.


Arthur John

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 25, 2013, 18:22:27

TRANSFORMATION, clevermike.

 

He is just another quota player.


carpetmuncher

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 25, 2013, 22:51:26

the sad truth is for a player like juan is that he is coached but a coach like coetzee and fleck. if he had any other coach like either lets say naka/hawies fourie or even carlos spencer i am quite sure he would have been in another league. when he rose from the club ranks he was lethal on attack but with most talent the coetzee butchers culls on a yearly basis his attacking instincts has been cir[removed]sized and he is now just a creatined tackled bag that has the odd moment here and there. he do feel for him as when he was at maties i felt he had the potential to be a great but sadly the coetzee butcher shop robbed him of his potential.

 

he is no just a shell of his former self. he had always a bit of a defence issue due to his size but he at least offered something on attack but now his attacking ablitys are gone and his defence has sharpened a bit he is no trojan wall i am sad to say. i pressume he wont be sending the old silver fox namly robbie fleck and xmas cards anytime soon as i am sure old fleck coached this player into a brown paper bag


mozart

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 25, 2013, 23:19:46

 Hahahaha....funny stuff guys.


clevermike

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 26, 2013, 00:27:55
Mozart

Sorry - not funny stuff. I described exactly what happened in the match he played in - from the try he scored - as well as the tackle situation. The missed tackles - the shoulder charge - the resultant penalty - the disallowed Kolbe try - all of the issues are factual.

If it was so in the CC match concerned - why is it funny? I think - like in the case of Jantjies - that deterioration in performances of a player is tragic - really not funny.


mozart

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RE: Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?
August 26, 2013, 00:57:25

 Probably just demotivated playing those journeymen.


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