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redsman

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Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:23:48

Frigging disgraceful !!!!!' is just beyond a joke. Saffa refs are on the kiwis side is beyond reason. 

 

Forget about rugby in Australia no one now cares... Good work 


poi-e

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:28:34

Yes! Yeeessss! Oh let me taste your tears Redsman!  Mmm your tears are so yummy and sweet!!  Oh the tears of unfathomable sadness!!  Mmm yummy you guys!!

 

 

 

 


Wardad

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:39:59

Poor old Scott Tenorman aka Redsman ! Yes once again the aussies beat the English Whingeing team by a huuuuge margin !


clevermike

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:44:38
Redsman

I must admit I could not understand Peyper's refereeing today. He indicated a penalty to the Wallabies and then turned around and penalize the Wallabies. That was frankly mystifying to me. A couple of other penalties were also dubious and was even questioned by the New Zealand commentators. However, I am not sure why he was refereeing the way he was - so that one remains baffling to me.

Be it as it may - the game is gone and dusted and I believe on average the All Blacks were better than the Wallabies and deserve their win. Three tries to one is a fair assessment and should be taken into account when dealing with the issue of the final outcome of the game.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:45:13

 No one cries when the calls don't go our way.  Can't just admit that you wallies are hapless and probably wish you had a Richie McCaw for your captain instead of a sour puss like Horwill.  Oh well 4 more years.....oooops I mean maybe next year.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 11:49:35

How lucky were you to have the NZ commentators mike at least they are objective and can see the faults of the refs.  Unlike Kearns and co. who sit in their boxes with the wally jerseys on and give a commentary that is ugly and biased.  Sickening but winners are grinners so I'm happy :)


Denny

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 12:09:16

Jaco has always been an ordinary Ref. and there's no doubts about him blundering throughout the game, both ways....to say he favoured the Kiwis is way over the top. Actually I liked the way he allowed the breakdown to be contested and allowing the game to flow without being too technical. The AB's were clearly the better side and the Wallabies proved to be their own worse enemies at times. The better team won.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 12:10:40

You can't blame the ref because everyone gets their share of dud calls.  ABS have been on the receiving end of many especially when those NH refs have control but the mark of a great team is the ability to rise above those calls and still win and the ABS are a class above and you can thank their inspirational leader Richie for that.  As hard as that may be for some in here it's the truth.  And just to see the boys at the end just grateful for the win, calm, relieved but not all euphoria and hysterial.  They retained the Bledisloe cup now at 11 years and it was almost like business as usual.  


hakwa

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 14:22:45

 redsman, don't u mean "reffing keeps Wallabies in the game"? Just wondering............


Beeno1

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 14:42:31

 Redsman my apologies for this bad display. Heck how bad does it get when the nz commentators talk about professional fouls by the abs when oz are pushing for tries and then say that was a harsh call as another one goes against the wobblies.

Why we so favour the abs and why Oz refs so favour the abs is a mysetery. Always remember Bob Dwyers stats. abs 42 penalties to one yellow. Oz 7 penaties to one yellowand Boks 6 penalties to one yellow. That was only achieved by Oz and Saffa refs favouring Nz.

Its time for both Oz and SA to wake UP!. 

Mckenzie needs to drop the passive Mogg and to play Quade at flyhalf. Bring in Beale at 15. They  could also try Falau at at 13.

I didnt notice wee mcaaaaw much -only when the commentators raved because he caught a ball or did something of really little merit. He did knock on a pass on the wing I noticed.

I do hope Cloudy is getting over her school girl crush! Hahahahahahaha


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 14:53:04

 Oh beeno sweetie please don't rain on my parade.  Bad refing is just part of the equation, the wobblies need to stop whining like sick cats ones and just go for broke.  Every team has bad calls.  The ABS always get them but we don't cry and pummel our wee chests wailing 'woe is me woe is me' I can't help being enamoured by the great Richie McCaw, the guy is a legend by the time he retires (some time in the very distant future) he will be the greatest player to have ever played the game.  There are no words left to describe him.  aaaaaaahhhh life is sweet :)


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 14:55:30

 Did you say bring in Beale??  Oh nooooo!  It's bad enough the booing of Cooper but to have poor Beale booed by his own fans?  That's just sacrilege.  Besides would he be sober long enough?


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 18:44:30

You know what? Go shove it up your arse Red. You made a fair point but not even acknowledging the clearly better team on the day is very poor on your part, however not unexpected and 'normal' for an Aussie.

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I made reference to this AB tactic last year on here and got rubbished for it so go fig. However how many times have we seen the ab's go down to 14 men and still 'hold the line'. The other team gets the penalty at the end of the day if they really think they can get the 5/7 points then go for it....... But how many teams do that and whynot? Let me answer that with you saw why today! With the lions share of the ball and field all one of the best attacking teams in the world could manage is a intercept try against the run of play.

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The way dagg stayed on his man and waited for his inside man (taylor) to make the tackle, the way the ab's swarm and get (legal) turnover after turnover when on they're line.... Of course they will give away the 3 points when pushed, because they know you will fucking TAKE IT! but that's not the only reason the other reason is of course they back themselves to get the points at the other end of the field.

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Aussies biggest problem was that all week they were more worried about the other teams ill discipline and not they're own or own game and that cost them big time. I see Mcfatty thinks if his team builds phases they should get points or a card.... Super rugby maybe, but not test level mate, your playing the best from another country and things can be turned on there head very quickly.

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Bugger me I could go on, but i think i will leave that to the ninja sas and my fav troll nukie. Red if you and mcfatty think ref calls are gonna save ya, then no wonder you dumb shits can't find work in a place with so many jobs going.


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 18:44:31

 

sorry dup


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 18:53:59

Cloudy, ignore that fat little troll Beano, cause he's just that, a fat little troll and not even a good one..... He doesn't deserve your words of wisdom!


Beeno1

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 20:23:56

Me fat Bwahahahahaha abnob you must be looking in the mirror and getting confused.

Anyhow abnob cheer up - you did win the game! Hate to see how you do when you lose.

Me and Cloudy are doing fine. Learning abouit wahines, a mean boil and some fancy bread they make! Her obsession with wee mcaaaw is concerning.


polyboy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 24, 2013, 23:35:15
Beeno if you manage to get a mean boil....which is pretty good.....you gonna have to reciprocate with a braai (excuse spelling if wrong)


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 09:48:03

Check the penalty count for both matches and check where they took place. And all by Crusaders players mostly. Hardly surprising considering "cheat and pray" is the doctrine promoted at that franchise. Crusaders players, forwards to be precise (front, second and back rowers), are consistent "cheats" at Super 15 or International level.

Whitelock dwells in the same cellar that Crockett occupies. The vindictive, thug cheats refuge. When the attacking side gets inside the 40, watch the crooks hood up and get to work. Inside the 25 they up the anti with murderous intent. A sporting contest is one thing. Outright cheating is not sport at all. 


Brycy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:03:11

Spoony i think you'll find that's why they have refs to adjudicate any foul play.

Are you like Bean Brain saying that the yarpy refs are complicit in theses alleged discrepencies .

Or are Kiwis just so fast and magical that the ref misses these so called indiscretions.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:13:03

 Really spoony?  Thugs and cheats....that coming from a fan of the biggest thugs in rugby history lets not go down that road.  Cheats is a word you lot bandy around when you can't beat the World Champions sounds like sour grapes to me.  I guess it's better than being fakes.


poi-e

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:25:12

 Good to see Spoony back leading the tin foil hat brigade...


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:33:38

 Hey allblacknblue thanks for the rap.  Beeno is ok although more than a little misguided but reds is a twisted and warped individual who hates kiwis and if he wasnt so bitter and sour he would make a good boil up ngapuhi style ....put him in the pot boilup lol


Rugganut

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:35:59

Spooney, great point. On no less than 5 occasions the Aussies were close to the tryline and on the front foot when 5 penalties were given for professional fouls. On a maximum of 3 professional fouls someone should have gotten yellow. On the seccond time this happened the captain should have got a team warning. The Kiwi's did it on 5 occasions and did not even get a warning. Absolute disgrace and blatant cheating, which the ref allowed.

 

How on earth do you not go upstairs to check on Steven Moore's 'try'. That beats me.

 

Nonu should have been at least Yellow carded for his shoulder charge with no arms on Alexander.

 

McCaw is the only player in world rugby who can enter a ruck from which ever direction he chooses. The off the ball playing from the AB's is unbelievable. How many players are taken out without the ball just baffeles me.

 

I am convinced that the IRB give directives to every ref that the 'Cheating' AB's must win at all costs. 


Just_win

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:36:45

Well if what you say about "cheating inside the 40" was true (which it is not) then Boks should develop backs that can score medium range. As you don't , it must infirm that this excuse is just that , ie poor sports trying to find any way to explain their disappointment . You just have to play better - like you used to.

 

 

 


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 10:47:17

Absolutely correct rugganut the All Blacks and the whole rugby fraternity in NZ is on the take.  They have cheated and bribed their way through so many games its just diabolical.  Even more diabolical is the fact that with all that cheating and bribery they only managed to win 2 World Cups.  They should have won the lot.  I guess the IRB missed the directives to Barnes and co.


carpetmuncher

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 15:44:20

peyper was a complete joke and should be knock on the fingers for such a performance. worst reffing i have seen from a saffa in a long while


Arthur John

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 18:05:01

Hear,Hear.

 

Never have been impressed with him at any stage.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 25, 2013, 21:38:58

old mcdonald had a farm
E I E I O
and on that farme he had a safffa
E I E I O
with a ref ref here
and a ref ref there
here a ref, there a ref
everywhere a ref ref
old mcdonald had a farm
E I E I O

LMAO, oh waht a shock, saffas blaming the ref for an All Blacks win, :o/

just ripped apart all of the dumb ass comments here reagrding peyper performances including the wallabies conceding more red zone penalties then the All Blacks.
u can see for urself here,,,
www.sarugby.com/forum.cfm

thank u All Blacks for having a game plan which isnt based on nothing boring boring kicks like our SANZAR bros, :o)

GO THE MIGHTY MIGHTY ALL BALCKS!!!
thank u All Blacks for having a game plan which isnt based on nothing boring boring kicks like our SANZAR bros, :o)


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 05:07:15

Cloudy

 

You Kiwi's should really start getting your heads out of your arses and have a look what tactics are.

We all know Australia play of Genia and like the Kiwi no 10 he is a deicsion maker, Genia did not have had such a good time in the last 2 games and you wanna know why? First of lets start with the illegal tactics by NZ

Lets start with some obstruction. He is infront of the ball meaning he is offside to begin with and holding your hands up in the air is irreleavnt its the actions of the ball carrier that will determing if you are penalized or not. The moment Dagg runs behind him its obstruction. He did reult NZ 7 pointer.

Its foul play Law 10

(b) Running in front of a ball carrier. A player must not intentionally move or stand in front of
a team-mate carrying the ball thereby preventing opponents from tackling the current ball
carrier or the opportunity to tackle potential ball carriers when they gain possession.
Sanction: Penalty kick
(c) Blocking the tackler. A player must not intentionally move or stand in a position that
prevents an opponent from tackling a ball carrier.
Sanction: Penalty kick

Offside in general play

 

(b) Offside and interfering with play. A player who is offside must not take part in the game.
This means the player must not play the ball or obstruct an opponent

 

How about I wanna be hard Bordie Rettalick the biggest douche in the kiwi team. This fucker is all over the place diving off his feet trying to slap Argentine 9's after they scored and doing some obstructing at kick returns.

Here he just stands there make no effort to retire hands in the here creating a gap for  Smith which he takes and putting NZ on the front foot

Because he got away with that and he felt he wasn't being a big enough douche bag he went and go dive in at the ruck of his feet like Superman,

Law 16

(a) Players in a ruck must endeavour to stay on their feet.
Sanction: Penalty kick

(d) A player must not jump on top of a ruck.
Sanction: Penalty kick

 

16.2 

(d) All players forming, joining or taking part in a ruck must be on their feet.
Sanction: Penalty kick

End result Kiwi 7 pointer.

 

Lets move on. How to make sure the opposition halfback got nowhere to go by forcing him to go one way or pass and make sure he does not box kicks

 

Tackle takes place ruck

Look at the Kiwi tackler lying there

Australian half back comes in and look where that guy is when he pass the ball. Been allowed to lie there for ages no attempt to roll away

Law 16.4

(a) When a player tackles an opponent and they both go to ground, the tackler must
immediately release the tackled player.
Sanction: Penalty kick

(b) The tackler must immediately get up or move away from the tackled player and from the
ball at once.
Sanction: Penalty kick

This is from the kick off at the first ruck

No attempt at all nothing blocking him from doing so but because he holds his head he gets away with it. He damn well knows nobody is going to stamp on him. Faggot acting. Cheating thugs

 

Lets move on

 

Again Latua laying there taking up space holding his head not even close to the ball or in the ruck. 

 

Genia wanted to box kixk couldn't cause he was laying there make no attempt to get up 

 

See where Genia is once he noticed he passed back where Cruden charged down end result NZ 7 pointer

 

Lets see the Aussies. Look in the spirit of the game

Close to the goal line here is the tackle


 Watch the Aussie tackler assist. Look where he is. He is helping with the tackle and check how quickly he gets away and not towards NZ side but his own side

 

You see his orange sicking out the other side. NZ quick ball and they scored a try, That is the fair play and you see why are you called cheats? Cause you fucking are.

 

Oh and what about the try where the ball came out on the otherside of the scrum? Should have been a reset for the Wobs. Instead a Ben Smith try

 

 

 When you add up with that they get pinned for

10.3 REPEATED INFRINGEMENTS
(a) Repeatedly offending. A player must not repeatedly infringe any Law. Repeated
infringement is a matter of fact. The question of whether or not the player intended to infringe is irrelevant.
Sanction: Penalty kick
A player penalised for repeated infringements must be cautioned and temporarily
suspended.

And I repeat

Repeated
infringement is a matter of fact. The question of whether or not the player intended to infringe is irrelevant.

 

And about the Bok thugs. Please name some for me. Wait let me guewss Bakkies Botha and Schalk Burger?

Whenever someone remark about Bok thuggery they bring up Bakkies and Schalk Burger.

Can you actually remember the last time they played for SA?

Can you list me the”thuggery” Burger was involved in apart from the alleged eye gouge, do you have anything else on him?

It is a perception mate, we play hard rugby, there is no denying that, that is why I appreciate hard rugby, problem is though, next time you accuse the Springboks of thuggery, find a new thug, a current one, and Greyling won’t do as he has been kicked out of the Boks, but at least do me the favour of finding a current thug, and not someone that has not played for the boks in quite some time.

 

 

 


redsman

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 05:29:32
Sad indictment of a sport when the cheating team wins... 2 from 2 have been gifted to kiwis.

No one will ever know IF they could / would win without cheating maybe / maybe not - but fact is they are cheats and until the refs grow balls and penalise these infringements it will continue. Very soft from Peyper - I wonder do these guys ever watch their performances and realise how much they screw a game up - no doubt its a hard job and perhaps TMO should have executive power over all decisions at least he has the camera angles and benefit from replays....? Either way it only deflates the rugby brand in Australia which whether the saffas or kiwis like it, or admit it IS the most important rugby market in the southern hemisphere...................

FTR I have no issues with loosing when FAIR and HARD game - but as documented above in game 1 there is no such thing as FAIRNESS in the kiwi rugby - it appears manipulate the rules and win by cheating - only way to stop it is by yellow cards. Something Peyper and Joubert have failed to do on both occasions after numerous and repeated infringements...........


Brycy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 05:29:36

Spoony so whats your point mate? Anyone can go cherry picking.

Are you saying South African refs suck big time for missing something ?

 

Surely we Kiwis can't be responsible for their training can we?

Are'nt you supposed to be supplying the best refs yr country has? LOL

 

Just remember this before you attack the refs.

There is no such thing as immaculate perception. So maybe if you've got the balls try being a ref yourself seeing you think you can do better .

But remember all that stuff you posted is based on hindsight and the ref does'nt have that luxury.

 

Just makes me wonder how sympathetic Saffas will be towards Australia after Suncorp Stadium.

 

Headline in todays paper."Australia is nastier than the Taleban. " So see how you go.


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 05:46:19

Brycie I am not going to bother about the crap your are trying to come up with because clearly you haven't watched the game or you got a Kiwi flag around your head with your head stuck up so far your arse you won't even spot a elephant hiding between a bunch of pigs. Come up with some proof next time I did

 

Cheers 

  Ps Reffing got fuck all to do with perception or hindsight. Its about the clear and obvious.

Redsman,

 

Can't blame Joubert or Peyper because you get fired for dishing out YC in bedisloe cup mathces. Paddy O Brain got rid of Dickinson and a other SA official and personally jumped on a plane to appoligize to the AB for a refs mistakes.

 

Paddy must go. He is using his influence to put a scare of referees and he is not afraid to fire them for fucking up his countries domination. We have seen even a simple letter change the rules for the Kiwi's in 2009

 


Brycy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 06:29:34

Well sounds like a great conspiracy theory you've got going there Spoony.

And also sounds like you guys grow some pretty good drugs too man. That's out of it.

 

I can understand how you can get upset when you get out muscled given the forward orientated game you play. But unless you also have backs to match what the ABs have you will always be our bitches.

 

Saying we cheat is too me only saying that you can't compete which is actually a compliment,

 

And how is kicking the ball away aimlessly going to win you or Arstralia any games i ask you ?

 

That's just giving the best attacking team in the world the platform to attack and capitilise on your dumbarse strategy by scoring tries.

 

I'd spend a bit more time analysing yr own game if i was you buddy.


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 06:34:36

How can it be a conspiracy theory when it happened already? Where have you been under a rock? How did Bryce Lawrence get a quarter being nowhere up to standard? Cause he was Keith Lawrence son. Did Paddy jump on a plane and appoligize to the Springboks for a poor official no? Did he get fired? No

 

 


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 06:45:21

 Wow spoony that over long post just proves you need to see a shrink to get over your anger issues because its just eating you up.  How about we just give the whistle to you and you go out and ref seeing as you are so clever and know more about Joubert and Peyper put together like Brycy said you have the luxury of hindsight like all couch sitters.  Your whining is incessant and really pathetic you resort to name calling just to prove a point albeit a subjective one.  What colour jersey will you be wearing when your boys play oz? Thankfully yoû won't have to endure watching another below competent refing display by your fellow countrymen.  God forbid.


Rugganut

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 07:00:01

Spoony support you all the way with these comments. As there is one set of rules for the AB's and then rules for the rest of the world, this is being explained that NZ play a better brand of rugby than anyone else. What bullshit. Playing the ref is one thing but that is developing your game to the refs interpretation. When the ref blatantly does not penalise one team for constantly infringing the laws and penalises another team for minor infringements, the team that is not being penalsed is blatantly cheating.

 

The All Blacks are simply cheating in every game they play ! Obstruction and taking out the players without the ball is their best skill.

 

James Horwill was so upset at the end of the game he could hardly speak. His team has been totally out-cheated.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 07:12:12

Oh I can't wait until the game in Suncorp I hope you guys are still singing this same tune on the end of a good old kangaroo thumping.  You know before I ever came on this forum I used to always cheer for the Boks whenever they played oz have always respected the history between nz and SA but after reading the absolute hate and vitriol by some  people in here ill be cheering for the wallies first time ever......that is something I thought I'd never do but I just wanna see when you lose whether your pathetic bleating will be transferred to whoever refs that game.  I have no doubt it wil.


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 07:12:56

Cloudy how about you go and play against teams that is allowed to cheat their way to victories game after game? 50 percent of all pnalites is for the tackle/ ruck situation and the AB concede every year the most penalties out of any other team but they have something like 1 yellow in 4 years? 

 

It would a great shame if the AB build their legacy on illegal tactics. If SA was winning that way I wouldn't support them or we would let them know we are not happy about it. Its a fucking disgrace to world rugby and its a farce. Also its interesting to see how NZ were allowed to do these things when Paddy got the job at the IRB as the boss of the referees. He decidedes who gets to ref games and who don;t. If he don't like you he will not give a international game. 


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 07:30:53

 

 Oh so now you are blaming Paddy?  Wow you are just full of accusations, are you sure it's not the Queens fault?  Your problem is you don't give credit where it's due that's the difference you just want to spew your hate and blame the refs because its easier to do that than say Richie had an outstanding   game.  Do you think for one minute the Aussies would be crying foul if they had won on a dodgy call??  Do you think they would be crying to  the ref.....oh that's not right don't penalise them we fouled penalise us?  You know for someone who professes to have so much rugby nous you really are quite dumb.  You malign over a hundred years of All Black history by calling us cheats and that's insulting to every All Black who has ever played the game and to every New Zealander.  You're damn right I'm going to stand up and be counted and if you don't like that then take another puff and lie down.


Rugganut

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 07:56:33

No what we are saying is that the AB's coaching staff instruct the current players to cheat. The referees are instructed to be linient on the AB's cheating and are told to turn a blind eye by Paddy O'WTF. Sir Cheat started this spiral. NZ should never have hosted the WC and look at the circumstance in which it was awarded.

 

This has nothing to past players or to do with the general population of NZ. It is just the desease that currently exists in your rugby heirachy, which is cheat at all cost.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 08:03:29

@rugganut and you know all this because.....?????


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 08:23:28

Cloudy. We can accept McCaw getting away with a few. NZ could still be  beaten then but with 8 or 9 guys now aloowed to do what they want its close to imposssible as there is no counter for such illegal tactics. Only counter is the ref and its in clear site to note for anyone yet ignored. Why? 


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 08:27:25

I don't get your point.  The cheat flags only seem to get flown whenever it's your blokes reffing.  NH refs don't allow us that luxury maybe it's an interpretation of the law.....I'm no rugby scholar so you tell me objectively if you can.


Just_win

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 08:35:53

 A couple of good wins will see you all right!  It has gotta hurt when you see your team play this way but as your coach said it was a win so just build on it.

All this sour grapes about the refs on almost every thread, damn get a grip guys. From Beeno1 we would take is as a joke but the rest of you should know better. Refs rule on every play for both teams. They get some wrong but they have linesmen and TMO to help them. Plus every game is analyzed afterwards and they are assessed by a panel. It is as fair as it can be. 

 

I hope Boks can evolve their game & Oz can shut their traps (maybe that's a bridge to far, LoL).

SA has the players to develop a great team.

Oz needs to give their coach time but IMO he deserves a rough passage after all the crap he gave Deans & all the campaigning he did for his job, Sure it’s a dog eat dog world but he deserves some pain now and he is getting it.. He should show some leadership & stop the crying. Putting the positive focus on his team would be a good first step. Otherwise he will have a team of amigos not just 3 of the nitwits, LoL

Yeah, a couple of good wins & the Boks fans will be  in heaven & will be their strutting selves again!


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 08:51:29

Hey justwin nice calming post there lol but you do know that the entire officialdom on Saturday were saffas?  So I guess that means we bribed the lot.  We must have a lot of money!  Oh well you got it right, if they beat oz and I say IF because I have a funny feeling they will lose at Suncorp in which case we will need to prepare ourselves for the onslaught of hate posts if a kiwi refs the game.  Oh my can you imagine it?  Lets hope they win for our sakes lol


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 09:50:38

How can it be sour grapes when firstly I am not a Aussie and I don't give a fuck or they win or lose secondly there is a youtube filled with the shit they get away?

 

Can you explain to me also why they have the highest PK against count yet brags with one yellow every 4 years?

 

The AB motto in attack is

 

First prize: Bust the line.
Second prize: Build
momentum.
Third prize: Squeeze a
penalty.

 

Now what would be the opposite of each?

Protect the line

Stop momentum

Give away a penalty?

 


Just_win

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 12:59:47

 Spoony: sour grapes because SA is having a bad patch (as is Oz). ABs seem to building depth & going in right direction while wining games with total rugby (backs r creative forwards dominating scrums & improving line outs). Putting the microscope on isolated plays & complaining about refs starts to smack of re-directed frustration &  anger if it goes on beyond a certain point. The refs wil be reviewed &adjustments made around as needed (including biting,etc)

Glad the other threads have moved on.

 


Wardad

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 14:32:09

 Answer this anyone stupid enough to think SA refs favour the ABs ,why in the name of all thats holy would they ????? We know SARU doesnt mind giving out gold watches and holidays in SA to their favourite little pets to put the ABS OUT of a game , but to help them win ???Are you retarded ? Why would the ABS need help beating the wallies ? the wobs have all the spine and heart of a Blancmange ! Absolutely ridiculous .And the wallies are pure as driven snow ? they didnt give away any deliberate penalties when the ABs were playing under advantage ?

And someone wanted examples of bok thuggery try asking Willie McBride about the "99" call or Colin Meads about how his arm got broken .In 1956 after the bok forwards deliberately crippled a young ABs prop Skinner was bought in [he was a proffesional boxer] to sort out the bok props,as an older blogger put it " first the loosehead props head popped up out of the scrum his eyes rolled back in his head in the first scrum ,Skinner swapped sides and did the same to the tight-head !" series NZ !

SA refs in the modern era are the most honest anywhere and are a different species to the apartheid era scum slithering up to the bok captain to shake his hand after scoring ! Even Craven was ashamed when a SA ref when asked about his disgusting display said "I have to live here " 

If anything you Saffas should be proud of your current crop,not perfect but they are honest !


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 15:06:22

Red it really is a sad indictment when your team is 'that' shit, where the fuck is this new age of aussie attacking rugby huh? Mog looked too scared to run the ball by the end and kicked away everything he got and the saffas dont look much better either a fucking sad indictment indeed.

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Never mind SA leaving super and chap rugby... We'll fucking leave because at this sad rate we really would get a better game from a 2nd xv.

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The way the AB's play is a gamble, risk vs reward like I said above. There are tactics that can be used to counter this but both your fucking useless coaches haven't seemed to have picked up on this yet.

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The question for all comers is: How do you beat a team that doesn't mind risking goin down to 14 men and will give you 3 pointers all day while scoring 7 pointers at the other end? The answer is simple if the other team is actually fucking capable or even remotely on the same level and actually fucking back themselves.... Doesn't make ya just want to bite someone knowing a tiny little place like nz punches so far above its weight lol.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 15:30:22

@spoony,

ok lets address some of ur rubbish comments here,,,

"Lets start with some obstruction. He is infront of the ball meaning he is offside to begin with and holding your hands up in the air is irreleavnt its the actions of the ball carrier that will determing if you are penalized or not. The moment Dagg runs behind him its obstruction. He did reult NZ 7 pointer."

WRONG, dagg does not run in behind hore.
he runs to the right where the All Blacks have a numbers advanatge and also where hore is getting up after being involved in the breakdown seconds earlier and passes the ball while still on the left of hore.
www.youtube.com/watch
watch the link and check out the replay of this incident which can be found at 40:05 - 40:22, with two differnt camera angles, u can see not only does dagg pass the ball before running the ball behind hore.
best u check ur facts in the future, cos its a picture paints a thousand words, not a picture paints a thousand lies.
 

"This is from the kick off at the first ruck"

"No attempt at all nothing blocking him from doing so but because he holds his head he gets away with it. He damn well knows nobody is going to stamp on him. Faggot acting. Cheating thugs"

first of, that was the second ruck from kick off, not the first.

secondly, WTF are u talking about here???
"No attempt at all nothing blocking him from doing so but because he holds his head he gets away with it."
i couldnt understand ur little rant, but im assuming ur implying that McCaw is in the way of genia clearing the ball??? it has to be that, cos theres no other possibility to any other infraction.
well ur dead wrong again, McCaw while part of the ruck made a clear and visible effort to get away from the ball which saw him end up on the far left of that ruck. genia had clean access to the ball, and joubert had the perfect line of sight for the enitre incident.

and this line of urs is a doozy, "but because he holds his head he gets away with it. He damn well knows nobody is going to stamp on him. Faggot acting. Cheating thugs"
OMG, are u freaking serious??? i reckon ur taking the piss, cos when u watch that whole incident again, McCaw never once tries to protect his head, hes in the process of getting up and that still picture of urs which is the whole basis of ur argument holds zero water.
heres the link again www.youtube.com/watch now wacth from 06:32 - 06:45, the prrof is in the pudding and ur 0 from 2.

"Lets move on"

yes, lets, :oP
 

"Again Latua laying there taking up space holding his head not even close to the ball or in the ruck."

 

"Genia wanted to box kixk couldn't cause he was laying there make no attempt to get up"

 "See where Genia is once he noticed he passed back where Cruden charged down end result NZ 7 pointer"

strike three, ur out.

"Again Latua laying there taking up space holding his head not even close to the ball or in the ruck."
what space is luatua taking, look at the picture numbnuts, theres practically a whole body between where genias hand is reaching for the ball and where luatua is lying.
did u wonder why lutua was holding his head, no of course not, that would require a logical train of thought of which this whole comment of urs is completely void of.
luatua wasnt trying to protect his head, he was injured, something u either didnt know due to lack of actual game knowledge, or chose to ignore cos it didnt fit in with the rest of ur bullshit fairytale.
 

"Genia wanted to box kixk couldn't cause he was laying there make no attempt to get up"
there is not one indication that genia wanted to make a box kick, not one at all, and when u watch the footage, u will see that aaron smith is charging in on him, meaning if genia was as stupid as u say to go for the box kick, it would have been charged down.
even in the two pictures u posted on the incident, u can see smith is to genia as he reaches for the ball and where smith is when genia passes the ball.

"See where Genia is once he noticed he passed back where Cruden charged down end result NZ 7 pointer"
somebody give me a spetic tank, cos this thread is full of shit.
when wtach the footage and not two pictures, u will see genia before reaching down for the ball, hop over the injured luatua. when genia reaches for the ball, he is aware of where luatua is and has luatua within his peripheral line of sight the whole time.

again heres the link to that game www.youtube.com/watch and watch from 35:35 - 37:26, u will see all the evidence u need to back my every comment and laugh at all of urs.
 

"Lets see the Aussies. Look in the spirit of the game
Close to the goal line here is the tackle"


"Watch the Aussie tackler assist. Look where he is. He is helping with the tackle and check how quickly he gets away and not towards NZ side but his own side"

"You see his orange sicking out the other side. NZ quick ball and they scored a try, That is the fair play and you see why are you called cheats? Cause you fucking are."


"Watch the Aussie tackler assist. Look where he is. He is helping with the tackle and check how quickly he gets away and not towards NZ side but his own side"
u havent once said a single thing which is truthful and thats a real shame.
leilafano assists with the tackle and then u say check out how quicly he rolls away as if anyone can do that with two pictures, o_O
the truth is leilafano assits with the tackle and then despite not releasing and also while not supporting his own wight, he deliberately tries to slow down the ball which is a clear penalty. woodcock comes and clears him from the ruck and knocks him into his own side and that is why the All Blacks got such quick ball, thanks to their forwards, not cos of this laughable australian spirit of the game u keep talking shit about.

heres that link again www.youtube.com/watch u can watch it from 1:18:39 - 1:18:43 to see it all unfold as i said, and not the way u did

"Oh and what about the try where the ball came out on the otherside of the scrum? Should have been a reset for the Wobs. Instead a Ben Smith try"

 its about time u got something right, the scrum should have been reset, but even u can understand that it was up to joubert to blow the whistle and restart the scrum, ur expected to play to the whistle and if u suggest anything else then meh.

"When you add up with that they get pinned for

10.3 REPEATED INFRINGEMENTS
(a) Repeatedly offending. A player must not repeatedly infringe any Law. Repeated
infringement is a matter of fact. The question of whether or not the player intended to infringe is irrelevant.
Sanction: Penalty kick
A player penalised for repeated infringements must be cautioned and temporarily
suspended.

And I repeat
Repeated

infringement is a matter of fact."

infringement made be a matter of fact, but thread of lies is not. i have systematically destroyed this rubbish picture book comment of urs, and its fabricated comments like those which help perpetuate the illusion of so called cheating from the All Blacks and the sheep like ruggernaut and beeno will only to gladly lap it up, why??? for the same reason u posted such a long and detailed lie, cos as cloudy said its sour grapes. the only theatrics here was not the so called acting of the All Blacks, but ur bizzare story telling.
but what else are u guys gonna do, talk about the exciting world of SA rugby, pfffffffffffft, whatever, u only need to watch the Boks last weekend to know that as long as the Boks keep preforming like that, rugby fans like u and those other sheep will always take cheap shots no matter how untruthful they are towards ur rugby sueriors the mighty mighty ALL BLACKS!!!

u should send those saffa sheep to the kiwi butcherman, we hook them up in the slaughterboard and put them to some use, and if u need directions, just ask the Boks, we send them there on a regular basis.


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 17:11:09

 Haha BRILLIANT naru just BRILLIANT!!!  Sooooooo BUSTED spoony.  You know what naru I couldn't make head or tail of what he was trying to say nothing made any sense and if I hadn't wiped the game I was gonna watch it again just to get some clarity.  And you know what?  You did that so well without sticking the boot in unlike the spoon.  I'm so impressed all those blogs and discussions on abs.com have brought you to this place.  The uzumaki clan would be so proud of their leader.  AWESOME best read all day :)


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 17:18:13

And that is why you are the auspicious PRESIDENT of the Richie McCaw club.  BOOM!!!!!!


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 17:39:13

@cloudzter,



hoot hoot, :o)


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 17:47:01

 How do you do that lol sure is spiffy how this forum is set out allowing one to post stuff.  Super cool wish abs.com get their crap together and give us back our fanzone.  I miss abs.com :(


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:02:58

Sasuke O Connor was obstructed from getting to Dagg as he blitzed. Obstruction. Illegal. Take off those bias glasses. 

 

what space is luatua taking, look at the picture numbnuts, theres practically a whole body between where genias hand is reaching for the ball and where luatua is lying.
did u wonder why lutua was holding his head, no of course not, that would require a logical train of thought of which this whole comment of urs is completely void of.
luatua wasnt trying to protect his head, he was injured, something u either didnt know due to lack of actual game knowledge, or chose to ignore cos it didnt fit in with the rest of ur bullshit fairytale.

Numbnuts? Is that what your dad called you.

 

Firstly Latua was too injured to roll away but wasn't injured enough to complete the tasckle and to go roll over to his right side? He got a knock after he lied there by the aussie boot close to his head.

Again Genia wanted to box kick. He is fucking right footed how the fuck can he kick with a player laying there?

 

AND IF LATUA WAS INJURED JOUBERT SHOULD HAVE STOPPED PLAY RIGHT THERE! So jog on

 

AND again Genia is right fotted genia is right footed. He wanted to kick couldn't then flipped it to Lily that is why he was charged down. Look at the time 1 second!

 

And  again repeated infringements are repeated infringements and should be binned. Are you trying to argue against the rugby laws now? Which is there provided for you? FFS you Kiwi's are stuck ups. 


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:16:12

Spoony give it up already. You got owned. Your pathetic summary pictures and all are way off base not even written or structured clearly.  I said before that your hatred of the ABS means you don't have an objective bone in your body. Sasuke blew every one of your arguments to smithereens. He has got the uzumaki WMD weapons of mass destruction and he used them on you. It's clear to all that you must have been watching a different game probably on the Disney channel.


Spooony

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:20:27

Owned by what? All I see is Sasuke's own little biased opinions which disproves nothing. So I fail to where I got owned. Just because two Kiwi's agree doesn't make it a fact. I provided laws the works to prove my points. All you provided what was your own opinion in which you go no clue about the laws as you still think the redzone is part of the laws? Jog on 


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:21:55

Don't worry Spoon, there is always soccer mate if rugga is too hard for you to understand. 'Oh no genia is right footed' hahaha bout time your post get binned for repeated one eye'd ness and stupidity..... It's not tiddly winks mate.


allblacknblue

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:25:39

Spoony got owned, Spoony got owned! hahaha, come on man! Sas has both your testicles in his mouth and he is chewing hahaha. Good on both of you however, not sure if your both unemployed or what but i really couldn't be arsed going to the lengths you guys do!


Cloudy

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 26, 2013, 18:42:15

 Excuse me but I corrected myself by saying it couldn't be a law because it was a place.  Your whole summary wasn't even objective, I would be inclined to agree with you, if not for your comments on other threads where you are just mean spirited and rude Im having second thoughts about that beer it might be poisoned........and im more than getting a little dizzy about your moods because they're going up and down like a whores drawers on a Saturday night.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 02:42:08

@spoony,
 
"Sasuke O Connor was obstructed from getting to Dagg as he blitzed. Obstruction. Illegal. Take off those bias glasses."
wrong, and this isnt even a case of ur opinion is valid and lets agree to disagree, ur just plain wrong.
ur one picture which dosent even show show dagg being obstructed, is nothing compared to the utube clip i provided with a time for ur convenience (www.youtube.com/watch at 40:05 - 40:22), which shows on two different replay camera angles, dagg passing the ball before running behind hore.
 
u will also see that oconner was never truly committed to dagg considering the wallabies were well short of numbers out wide.
tim horan on the night made a point that joubert didnt go to the TMO for a possible obstruction, after watching the same replay im referring too, u dont here a single thing from a former wallaby commentator other then complinets on a well worked try.
furthermore, i found this article on an oz website. where an aussie rugby analyst goes into detail over james oconners defensive performances that night.
  http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/08/20/wallabies-video-analysis-perception-versus-reality/
hope u notice the number of times he points out this obstruction u conjured out of thin air, which for the record is zero times.
 
"Numbnuts? Is that what your dad called you."
witty retorts like that must have u as the king of the playground
 
"Firstly Latua was too injured to roll away but wasn't injured enough to complete the tasckle and to go roll over to his right side? He got a knock after he lied there by the aussie boot close to his head."
i have know idea why ur so eager to make shit up as u go along, none of that is fact.
1) too injured to roll away from what??? the ball which was a meter away from him???
 
2) he was injured during the tackle, its not a miracle for player to finish a tackle and get injured from it
 
3) he didnt have to roll over on his right side, the position he was in when he landed on the ground was him already saw him on his right side, it was only natural for him to end up in that position.
had he been knocked out in the tackle, he would have landed in a position that would have been favorably to the right.
 
4) luatua is injured during the tackle he makes mcmeniman, as he goes to the ground from the tackle he is already clutching his head. there was no boot involved.
 
here is the link and time to the whole incident -  www.youtube.com/watch 35:35 - 37:45
can u prove any of my facts wrong, or are u going to refer me to the two pictures again???
 
"Again Genia wanted to box kick. He is fucking right footed how the fuck can he kick with a player laying there?"
bullshit, he never once looked like he was going for a boxkick. this picture of urs proves my point

still dont see it??? tell me who in the world gets ready to do a box kick with their legs spread as far apart as genias are???
reed richards from fantastic four maybe, but no normal human sets up a box kick in poor mans chinese gymnast stance. 
 
 
and just like the wrong scrum call, jouberts actions are not dictated by the All Blacks, they are his issues and his issues alone. meaning none of this bullshit of urs holds any water with the stupid jealous saffa mentality of the All Blacks cheating. 
 
"AND IF LATUA WAS INJURED JOUBERT SHOULD HAVE STOPPED PLAY RIGHT THERE! So jog on"
is the first rugby u have watched??? it sure sounds like it, otherwise u would know that theres nothing strange about play continuing when a player is injured.
 
and how in the world was joubert to know that luatua was injured??? should joubert have stopped play and asked him if hes all right, or should joubert opt for the logical choice and continue play as he can clearly see that luatua is not impeding genias ability to reach the ball???

so u jog on, thats if the lies havent left u completely out of breath.
 
"AND again Genia is right fotted genia is right footed. He wanted to kick couldn't then flipped it to Lily that is why he was charged down. Look at the time 1 second!"
LMAO, :oD
look at the time one second, WTF??? look at the freaking utube clip and the time i mentioned
www.youtube.com/watch 35:35 - 35:55
no spoony, genia didnt once look like he was going for a kick , not only cos his stance was all wrong, but aaron smith would have charged it down, does ur picture clearly show smith ready to charge  it down??? no. does the utube clip i provided show it??? yes.
it really is that simple.

"And  again repeated infringements are repeated infringements and should be binned. Are you trying to argue against the rugby laws now? Which is there provided for you? FFS you Kiwi's are stuck ups."
 dont mistaken getting schooled for being stuck up, repeated infringements should be binned, but thats the refs job and for the record none of those points i replied to here and earlier were infringements as i have clearly proved,
 
ur pictures and lies are scissors, my video clips and facts are rock and rock ALWAYS beats scissors.
i dont care about peoples opinions, we all have one and are entitled to share them and i enjoy reading the fdifferent ones here. what i dont like is when people try to pass of complete and utter bullshit as fact like u clearly did, its something straight out of a fox news broadcast.
 
at least u saved urself the trouble of not trying to defend that stupid comment about the australian tackle assist. rolling away on his own accord due to the wonderful oz rugby spirit he has, pfffffffft maybe theres hope for u yet, LMAO, :oD


ludwig

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 03:38:41

Spooney with that lame post, you just shot your own argument down. Pathetic. Shame as  previously i considered your posts to be somewhat reasoned and not without merit, but that was a poor effort son.  I had to keep checking your avatar to be sure it wasnt pedsman on one of his pubescent teenage girl hissy fits. The only incident you highlighted that needs any discussion would  be the mcaw try in the 32nd minute. It may have warranted a review, but clearly it wouldnt have changed anything because hore didnt impede. It didn't help the wobblies cause having bieber come off his wing once again and attemp an ineffectual tackle. joubert had a clear and unobstructed view of it in real time and clearly saw it that way.


Rugganut

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 03:52:20

Back to basic's

 

So the Kiwi posters whom have tried everything in the book to deflect the issue here can i ask 2 basic questions. Do you think it is fair  and in the spirit of the game :

1. That Steven Moores 'try' was not refered to the TMO ?

2. That 5 penalties for professional infringements when the opposing team is on your tryline should be allowed without even a warning ?

Should you say this is in the spirit of the game and is fair you should really stand up and he counted here. Please answer the 2 basic questions with a simple yes or no.

 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 04:07:02

@rugganut,

here is a link which more then answers ur questions and shows u for a fool for asking question No2

www.sarugby.com/forum.cfm

it touches on the moore try and also goes into extensive detail about EVERY SINGLE penalty in the game.

its why the only question anyone can answer is the first one which is no. ur second question is like spoonys comments here, nothing but conjured up fairy poo and click on the link if u want to know why, o_O


redsman

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 05:01:35
@ Spoony kiwis obviously all have serious case wool blindness.... they don't want to see what you as an impartial observing can clearly see. The kiwis are not playing the sport in the 'spirit of the game' at all and I do actually agree with one post that talks risk v reward IF the ABs were reduced to 14 men.... but they weren't......................

Anyway I think saffas will struggle @ suncorp but will take it to the ABs and no need to tell you guys but ABs have seriously shite lineout................


Wardad

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RE: Disgraceful Saffa reffing again gifts game to the cheats
August 27, 2013, 12:51:07

Whine ,whine farking whine ! last time I heard whining like that was from anold Aussie holden going up the bloody Adelaide hills filled with  drunken shearers and roust-a-bouts !with smoke pouring out of it ! 

Spooney ,I would rather have my head up my own Arse [ apparently it has a rather floral boquet or so I would think !} than up redsman or any other blokes arse thanks muchly !

Hey cloudy .Saru hakwa and Allblackandblue ,Justwin too !

Poi-e ,that picture is a dead ringer for my youngest brother when we were kids ! thats "Boy" innit ?


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