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Beeno1

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Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 10:59:24

 Ex Supersport

History suggests it's foolish to bet against the All Blacks at any time, let alone when playing at home in Wellington against a Wallabies side they beat 47-29 only last weekend.

The last time an Australian side beat the All Blacks in New Zealand was in 2001 and only the truly brave would give the Wallabies a fighting chance based on last week's bumbling opening Rugby Championship effort, where they gifted the All Blacks three tries. (So take those three gifted tries out the equation and what is the difference?)

That's not to say the All Blacks would not have won easily enough without the benefit of the many Wallabies errors. They were lethal in converting opportunities into points. (Bwahahahahahahaha then he gets all poitically correct - remove those gifted tries and why in the world would the wee abs have won easily?)

It was the prototype modern day All Blacks performance - less possession and territory than the opposition yet almost double the points via counter-attacks based on turnovers. (Gifted tries boet dont confuse yourself like the kiwi bird brains  are so apt at doing - bwhaahahahahahahahaha

It's how the All Blacks play rugby nowadays; like a boxer leaning back on the ropes gladly taking body shots knowing he'll finish off the round with a one-punch knockout.(I wonder if this oak is talking about nz heavyweght champion wee SBW who was leaning on the ropes about to be knocked out by old man Botha when they shortened the bout to save him. Hahahahahahahhahahaha)

It's a teasing, beautiful and brutally effective winning style. Indeed, the All Blacks need only a sliver of an opportunity - a poor ball presentation or a kick without enough chase - so finely tuned is the team's killer instinct right now.(My oh my -so you lose the set pieces, the territory and possesion battle, are gifted three tries and this oak waxes lyrical about the poor abs!!!)

So much so, in fact, that the bookies and most Australian fans have written off the Wallabies for this weekend's match, which also doubles as the second of three Bledisloe Cup matches (Bledisloe 3 is at Dunedin on October 19).

The Wallabies must win this weekend to keep the series alive. They're understandably desperate, especially new Wallabies coach Ewen McKenzie who was appointed as the man most likely to end the team's decade-long Bledisloe Cup drought.

McKenzie has gone with the same backline that sputtered in parts last week, and has retained Matt Toomua at 10 ahead of the more flamboyant, but error prone, Quade Cooper.

SCORE CLOSER

McKenzie's selections suggest he does not believe the Wallabies were as bad as last week's scoreline suggests, and he might have a point.

The facts are his team lost by 18 points and gave away 21 points with errors leading to All Black tries - a charged-down kick, a bad read on defence by James O'Connor, and poor ball presentation in the tackle by substitute Tevita Kuridrani.(Exactly so why all the bulldust above!!!!)

The score should have been a lot closer notwithstanding the All Blacks' current rich vein of form. (Come on be honest the Wobblies could have won!)

Arguably, there's not a great deal between the sides. Before last week, the last time the All Blacks and Wallabies played the match ended in an 18-all draw. The gap isn't a chasm by any means. It's just that the All Blacks keep winning.

New Zealand's rugby development programme clearly has figured out something nobody else has.

The players it produces, who are all decent enough in Super Rugby, suddenly look faster of thought, foot and hand when picked for the All Blacks.

They react to random opportunities far too clinically for it to be a fluke. Some say they have more rugby nous because of the development offered in the National Provincial Championship. Others point to the All Blacks' in-house shrink, or mental skills coach, Gilbert Enoka.

The Wallabies are fair to okay on the mental skills side of things, though. They might be wobbly but they're also clever when it counts.(So what are you trying to say?)

MISSING INGREDIENT

Will they find the missing ingredient separating the sides this weekend?

They'd be harsh not to rate their chances based on a closer review of last week's loss. The Wallabies reigned supreme in the line-out (won all their own throws and pressured six out of 13 of the All Blacks'), and Michael Hooper outplayed All Blacks captain Richie McCaw in the loose.(Mcaaaw was as usual piss poor and bog ordinary - an emperor without clothes)

Where the Wallabies erred was in the absence of a long-kicking game for the sidelines.

McKenzie perhaps miscalculated his players' skill levels - the players he picked last week were simply not yet up to running the ball out of their own half with any confidence or control.

Cooper can run with poise from deep - and did just that when he came off the bench - but he comes with risks attached.

By retaining Toomua and Jessie Mogg, both prodigious kickers, McKenzie has essentially conceded that while he picked the right team last week, he got the tactics wrong.

The Wallabies will look to get more out of Israel Folau who made only four runs for a paltry 35 metres last week. By comparison, James O'Connor on the left wing made more than 110 metres from 11 runs.(O'Connor was with Genia and Ashley Cooper the best backs)

The All Blacks cleverly kicked towards O'Connor and Mogg, and not to Folau.

The Wallabies are likely to counter that tactic this week by rapidly shifting the ball left to right on kick returns from deep.

At least the Wallabies will be spared an in-form Aaron Cruden who is injured and has been replaced at 10 by Tom Taylor, the son of Warwick Taylor who played 24 tests for the All Blacks in the 1980s.

The younger Taylor is a quality footballer, though, with a 90 percent Super Rugby goal kicking success rate.

All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has reacted decisively to his team's line-out woes by resting Keven Mealamu and promoting Dane Coles to the bench to share hooking duties with Andrew Hore.

Hansen's selection of sharp-shooting Taylor over Colin Slade, whose kicking form can be erratic, is perhaps another pointer towards a closer scoreline.

Mogg and toom were very por and Falua a disgrace with his loafing attitude. Mckenzie hopefully has read them the riot act and told them this is last chance saloon. 

Go wobblies these abs are there for the taking. Play reasonably well and you will win. No more cheap gifted tries for a start. Pound wee mcaaaw into submissin again. One day he will get the message perhaps our man Etzebeth will be the one to deliver it.But wait the sensible thing to do is to allow allow mcaaw to play on. He is fast becoming apassenger and will certainly be one by the rugby WC. Smart strategy from Beeno eh Just Win? 


Cloudy

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 11:25:29

 Pooh pooh beeno pooh pooh pooh.  Stink post.  Of course it will be closer because we are missing Carter, now Cruden and Romano who said the gap was widening?  But then if we beat them again by 18 points then what?  Pooh pooh you're such a hater. Nasty nasty.


Beeno1

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 11:41:33

 Me a hater of the abs!!!! I feel totally misjudged!. Cloudy half the fun would be taken out of rugby without the as. I mean you can have no idea how I enjoyed the poms wacking the abs or us pounding the wee ab pack in dunedin or even the Mighty Stormers whipping the chiefs etc etc. And I have the nz oaks to thank. I am forever in your debt!  So lay down your water pistols!


Cloudy

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 12:01:02

 Well you are a hater because you are always going on about McCaw.  If you have a man crush then admit it lol ....others have.  I always cheer for the Boks when they play aussie  maybe Im a hater too lol or maybe it's just because the aussie media is so bad and because we have to put up with fathead Kearns and redsman's rantings and ravings its poetic justice when they get their backsides kicked.  And I love my guns....I can't have Richies so don't ask me to lay them down.  Never lol


Beeno1

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 12:55:56

 Gentlemen and rooitwit, I see we have in Cloudy a rollicking, gun totting nz lady. Take care!!!!

Cloudy here in SA we do not have man crushes as you call it although there are always a few exceptions. 

Sorry the British Madam bewitched  Ritchie    However, it is worth considering why she gave him the boot?

 


Cloudy

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 13:20:19

I'm glad she did....she wasn't royal enough for our Richie what he needs is a good young maori girl who can make a mean boil up and bake some hot rewana bread.....there are a lot of gorgeous looking wahines around nice bods too but maybe he likes the fairer belles.  Anyway he's better off just concentrating on his rugby at least until 2015, we don't want any distractions along the way :)


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 23, 2013, 23:54:43

@cloudzter,

u see what im talking about now, some of the brus here look like they went to the same schoole as julius malema and PDV, beeno1 aka storminged still equates a loss to the All Blacks in dunedin as a a win, WTF??? o_O
i wonder if ol beeno enjoyed the dunedin test when vermeulen got smashed onto his ass by read and knocking the ball on??? :oP

its a crack up how he loves the stromers win over the chiefs, but mentions nothing of their no finals appearance and losses to the crusaders and blues, o_O
but it does explain why beeno1 hates NZ rugby so much and also loves the it was the refs fault that the Boks lost, O_O


hakwa

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 01:46:52

the stormers were in the S15 Grand Final?????? What year was that? ;)


Wardad

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 04:00:26

 Sad gits like bean brain and co have to live off the mingey [ stormingey ? was that the avatar he got caught out with ? sad very sad ...}  crumbs that other teams very ,very occasionaly provide for them as their own teams dont seem to be quite up to the task .

I myself like all other ABs fans dont need other teams to do the biz for us , its one of the great joys of being an ABS fans that our boys rarely  lose more than one game in a row .Beanboy you should try being an ABS fan then you would have something to bang your chicken breasts about and you would be sooooo much happier !


KalaedFreddie

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 07:53:54

 When will you guys evaluate a team for their ability and individual skills?  All these posts are in some way skewed by emotions.

The All Blacks have very skilled players and probably the best war-plan(s).  It seems as if they are the only team with a real plan B.  SA is slowly getting better as the young talent get more experience.  Look at the growth in Etzebeth over the last two years, he will still get better.  Meyer needs to start cutting some of the old wood out.  Personally I think Jannie needs a lekka long holiday, but SA is not so well blessed in N03s.

The Aus team is in a bit of a fix with new coach and Jake screaming from the sideline.  Some players have too large egos and they also miss one or two injured guys.

 

I see this RC ending with the All Blacks in the lead, closely followed (if not tied) by SA and the Aussies in the rear..


hakwa

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 14:37:40

point taken Freddie! Emotions are what got us onto this site in the very first place :)


Beeno1

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 15:08:06

 saSUE the dominant Boks missed 9 penalties that day in Dunedin. Otherwise it would have been as comfortable a win as the poms against you.  Both the poms pack and the Boks smashed you guys.

Oz are in disarray right now and agin the abs were gifted soft trys by weak Oz defensive efforts. McKenzie will sort those out. As this article rightly says there is not much in it and Oz have the greater potential to improve.

Beeno keeping it real as always. Wherew ould they kiwi bird brains be without my input.

Cloudy,  Richie clearly likes madames and not wahines (with their great boil bake and hot rewana bread etc) or fairer belles. He also like Bels rather than belles. I do hope this clarifies matters. I am afraid all those gorgeous wahines and fairer belles should look to another more worthy.rolling laughter (#10) 

I suppose compared to warped dud   wee mcaaaw might even seem appealing. rolling laughter (#10)


Cloudy

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 15:14:10

Lol beenie too funny. How do you get those emoticons I'm up for a laugh.


Cloudy

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RE: Gap between Wobblies and abs not as great as one might think
August 24, 2013, 15:20:31

 And you shouldn't talk about our wardad like that....he and Richie have both been educated in the school of hard knocks.  Both to be admired and both kiwi to the bone.  I know that's hard for you to accept but by the time we get our blog back you will be converted :)


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