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Beeno1

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Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 18:00:19

 ExSport 24Cape Town - Expect another full-blooded performance from Heinrich Brussow on Sunday ... expect also, perversely, the obstacles to a possible Springbok recall only getting bigger.


The diminutive but eternally dapper open-side flank at least has the satisfaction of knowing that his likely start for the Cheetahs in the Super Rugby playoffs match against the Brumbies in Canberra (08:10 SA time) takes both the player himself and his franchise into previously uncharted waters for them.

His many admirers would argue that it is the very least he deserves, as the finals series underdogs try desperately to go all the way to title glory in three possible remaining matches – all of which would be played away if the Bloemfontein-based outfit can somehow advance to the final.

At 26, Brussow remains young enough to dream that he will, eventually, add to his presently dormant stack of 20 Test caps.

For the time being, at least, he has reportedly raised something of a personal white flag in that regard, by signing a Japanese contract that will preclude him from international activity for a while anyway, even as a return to the Cheetahs fold for the 2014 campaign seems reassuringly likely.

Brussow joining the mass exodus of Super Rugby players, competition-wide, to fresh pastures in the Far East, France and elsewhere is particularly understandable – he could do with a bit of “love”, frankly, in a new environment as his claims to further Bok duty remain ignored.

It must be a frustrating time for him, because as much as Brussow largely sends out good, continued signals in Super Rugby of his Test-level competence, somehow you sense that a recall seems even further away than before.

Of course that will be partly of his own doing if he becomes unavailable anyway, but other events have conspired to keep his prospects pretty remote at this juncture.

Just one is that for all the criticism slung the way of Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer from some quarters for the non-involvement of Brussow in his plans, it is desperately hard to quibble with the form of in[removed]bent, Bath-based No 6 Francois Louw, who was a dynamo once more on the open side in his two appearances against Italy and Samoa during the June Test window. (PLEASE NOTE BRUSSOUW GROUPIES AND SNAPSTER!!)

Louw, not only a pedigreed force at the breakdowns, is also a more powerful ball-carrier and general physical presence ... right up Meyer’s alley.

Making Brussow’s Bok comeback task potentially more complicated now, the Stormers have probably finally stumbled upon versatile Deon Fourie’s truest calling: yes, as a No 6 flanker.(THE WORLD FINALLY CATCHES UP TO BEENO VIEW EXPRESSED YEARS AGO!!!)

Fourie was outstanding in the out-of-contention side’s rousing 30-13 derby disposal of the conference-topping Bulls at Newlands last Saturday, and arguably has been the most crackerjack open-sider domestically in the closing weeks of ordinary season. (HAS BEEN WHENEVER HE HAS PLAYED 6 - HENCE CURRIE CUP PLAYER OF THE YEAR)

For all their trumpeting of his versatility, given his various attributes as a hooker, Stormers coach Allister Coetzee and his lieutenants may well be quietly kicking themselves for not stationing him on the side of the scrum more prolifically earlier in the season,(PLEASE NOTE OAKS!!!!) although admittedly their hands were strongly forced by injuries to Tiaan Liebenberg and Scarra Ntubeni – these meant they had little choice but to often field Fourie at No 2, where his lineout throwing is certainly not without flaw.(rUBBISH THEY HAD THE COMPETENT BEZUIDENHOUT!!! NOW WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU ABOUT KOLISI!!!!!!!!!)

But the coast seems clearer now for Fourie to settle more routinely into a flanker’s role at both Super Rugby and Currie Cup level, and thus only add to the list of compelling candidates for Test selection in that capacity.

The neutral former Transvaal and 1995 World Cup-winning lock Kobus Wiese, anchoring the [removed] “SuperRugby” programme on SuperSport on Monday night, enthusiastically trumpeted Fourie’s all-round performance against the Bulls, adding that he felt the player would be difficult to ignore for any expanded Bok squads in the immediate future.

Fourie, who incidentally is a narrow two months younger than Brussow and has very similar bodily stats to the Free Stater, is also developing a pleasing little habit of just managing to stay on the good side of referees in the borderline, sometimes subjective art of being a genuine nuisance at breakdowns.

Meanwhile Brussow, who is used to having to climb mountains in the quest for highest-level recognition, will doubtless simply get on with his own admirable game as the Cheetahs lock horns with Jake White’s Brumbies – a game some local pundits do believe they are capable of winning, albeit “on the road” with its associated hazards.

The man rightly still commands a swollen fan club, especially of people who have never forgotten the gigantic role he played in two of the best back-to-back triumphs ever achieved by South Africa against New Zealand, at Bloemfontein and Durban respectively during the victorious 2009 Tri-Nations.

The open-side ante for Sunday has been upped by White’s indication that Wallabies fetching legend George Smith, who began the shock defeat to the Force last weekend off the bench, will start against the Cheetahs.

Whatever happens, it is hard to imagine Brussow being a notably peripheral character at Canberra Stadium.

For all his frustrations, Heinrich Brussow doesn’t really do “innocuous”, does he?

Snapster and brussouw fans I hope you are getting a glimmer about Deon. 

 

 


Beeno1

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 22:47:51

 Just to bring this post up to the top of the board in case ou snapster misses it. Hehehehehehe


Spooony

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 23:21:31

Its someone elses opinion and can be dismissed as that.

 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 23:26:55

Since Deon Fourie has played at number 6 in last years SuperXV, and then the Curry Cup I have been saying he should be playing for the boks.

 

I was the first to indentify this, dont jump on my bandwagen Beeno!

 

When he played at 6 this year in Australia he had a broken rib and had a poor game.

Now that he is back in the loose trio he is performing again.

He is to small for a Hooker which requires a more prop style of build, otherwise it just tires the player out.

 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 23:28:39

 Brussouws body is finished. It cant stand up to test level rugby.

He is still a useful SuperXV player, and he will do well in the Japanese league and make some decent money.


Saffex

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 16, 2013, 23:39:29

Louw has done nothing special at 6 for the Boks, in fact he is not a 6. Our best opensides are Kolisi, Brussouw and Fourie. With Kolisi out Brussouw would be my Bok 6


mozart

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 00:37:28
Can't say I agree Dave....Louw is way better on the ground than Kolisi. He resurrected our ground game last year. Brussouw peaked in 09, gloriously, but his body is imploding. The same is true for the other small guy, Stegmann.


redsman

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 08:26:47
Will be great to see Brussouw v Geroge Smith @ the breakdown this weekend... the x-factor will be wanka ref Jackasson - he's highly likely to spoil the party (most probably) for Brumbies as he is clearly a one-eyed kiwi infiltrator taking the place of Brycey.

Anyway re Brussow - Ive got nothing but respect and admiration for this tough little flanker - sure hes not the stereotypical giant flankers that saffas seem to adore - for what reason Im not sure as you haven't won anything of note since he was playing in the boks...

The fundamental thing is he is quick enough (with low centre of gravity too) to compete at the breakdowns and actually affect turnovers.... something that you saffas don't really seem to worry about so long as the flankers weigh 120kg+......................

Anyway good luck to Brussouw whatever decision he makes or is forced to make - Im sure he will enjoy life if he goes to play rugby in japan.............. from all accounts its not too bad....


Beeno1

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 10:16:20

 Oh pleeeeease Sharbok I have been on about Fourie since before you appeared or  reappeared on this board. All the credit for identifyng Deon goes top me. 

I also have to say ou snapster has seldom blundered as badly. Louw is the pre-eminent 6 in world rugby right now. Who can argue against that obvious fact.

Of the small SA  flankers we have (Fourie, Stegman, Brussouw and Kolisi) Deon is clearly the best.

I have huge respect for Brussouw but he does not have the skills or pace of Fourie. Deon is also immensely strong and very smart.Two man of the match awards in  a row since he moved back to 6. Oh Alistair if only you had listened to Beeno on this point( we would surely have made the playoffs) - the wail over the years of so many! 

 


CleanCut

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 10:45:36

 

Nonsense ... I was the first on this board to pip Fourie as the next best Bok 6.

 

Friggin liars ....


Beeno1

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 11:10:24

 Man give credit where its due and its all due to me. I guess Fourie playing well helped!


ntanga

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 12:17:49
I'm with A girl on this one, I've no idea why these guys are not in the squad. Both Fourie and Brussow are serious contenders for the Bok number 6 jersey.

@ Reds, you've just summarised Brussow's unquestionable abilities on the field brilliantly.


Saffex

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 13:32:07
Disagree Moz, I have seen no issue with Brussouw's form or body this year. I much prefer him to Louw at 6, who I only see as a 7 or 8. Kolisi's work on the ground is improving, he just adds so much more with ball in hand and in defence.

I like Louw, but not that much. I prefer the likes of Brussouw, Kolisi, Coetzee, Labascagne, Arno Botha, Elstadt and CJ Stander as loosies


CleanCut

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 14:24:19

 

Tell you one thing ... if Kolisi is the best we have then we're in deep [removed]!!! He has at least another two - three season to go to mature and HOPEFULLY after that time period he MIGHT be up to the standard required to be an international 6. Right now he falls waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay short and that includes with ball in hand and on defence..

 

The Brussow we've seen this season is not the same fella that hit the scene a few years back. Granted, he's better than useless Kolisi but to compare him to Flo is absurd.

 

Also, to say that flo is not a 6 is just plain stupid. Open your eyes Bacon. His work rate on the ground cannot be matched by anyone in the country. A marked diffierence he's made since he's inclusion last year. 

 

My suggestion is you go have your eyes checked. Clearly you suffer from some visual issues and its been like that this whole year as far as I can tell.

 

Do something about it. Your missing all the action, dumb[removed]!!.

 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 14:40:15

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Sharkbok

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RE: Brussouw still fighting the tide
July 17, 2013, 14:41:01

An openside flank primary function is to compete at the breakdown. 

 

Opposition Ball

- Obtain Turnovers.

 -Slow down opposition recycling

 

Own Ball

- Retain possesion at rucks

-Ensure quick recycles

 

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Carries and tackles are 2ndary functions and although important - not the key requirement.

 

Brussouw was the best at this in 2009/10, but now Flou is the best.

 

Kolisi does not have enough impact at ruck time yet, this may change in the future.

 

Deon Fourie is the best player we have at rucks, that currently plays in South Africa.

He should be on the bench to cover Louw. 

 

Labberschage could also make a good opensider as he is very competitive at the rucks.

 

A loose trio can be 3 allrounders, or it can have a specialist openside fetcher.

 

With Spies and Alberts on the field, a specialist is required and this in order is

 

1. Flouw

2. Deon Fourie

3. Brussouw, but Labbaschagne probably has more potential

 

 

 


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