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Beeno1

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Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 17:38:36

Cape Town - The Stormers will lodge a formal protest to SANZAR after receiving a ‘crazy’ provisional fixture list for the 2014 Super Rugby season.

Speaking to TimesLive’s website, Stormers coach Allister Coetzee expressed unhappiness at receiving the short end of the straw in the 2014 fixture draw.

"Our fixture list was tough and that's one of the lessons we have had to take on board - how to deal with it," Coetzee said.

GALLERY: Stormers v Bulls

"I've seen a provisional fixture list for next season and on tour we have the Crusaders, Chiefs, Brumbies and Reds, which is crazy. We're definitely going to lodge a complaint about it."

The Crusaders, Chiefs, Brumbies and Reds were the top finishing New Zealand and Australian teams in the current 2013 Super Rugby season.

It is not the first time the Stormers have been dissatisfied over their fixtures: this year they were left fuming after having to face the Bulls and Sharks away, followed by home games against the Chiefs, Brumbies and Crusaders to begin this year's Super Rugby season.

The Stormers finished this season in seventh place, after "missing" out on playing the Highlanders and Force.

SANZAR's South African regional tournament director Johan Botes said that it was unlikely that the fixtures would be altered.

SANZAR have not yet released provisional fixtures for the 2014 season to the public, and at this stage it's unclear when they will do so.

I cant but be highly suspicious of how all the factors seem to be consistently against the Mighty Stormers. Can this all be down to random chance?  What a way to start the 2013 season - not playing the weakest Oz and Nz teams. Then in 2014 having to play away the strongest sides?  Sorry I smell a wee black rat! Are the Stormers geting such a huge reputation that they are seen as the big threat? See what topping the Super 15 log two years in a row brings.
 


clevermike

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 17:39:55
Beeno

Old one - we dealt with this article yesterday already.


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 17:52:43

The Crusaders, Chiefs, Brumbies and Reds were the top finishing New Zealand and Australian teams in the current 2013 Super Rugby season.

 

They were also the top finishing NZ and Aus sides in 2012. Go check the Bulls' overseas leg for 2013. Allister and the Stormers should stop pissing and FIFO.


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 18:26:33

 Sorry ou maaaikie I have been busy with a new business venture so have not been on the board too much.

Are you talking about the tour where the bulle got pumped windpomp? Please no excuses windpomp you know very well the bulle become blue calves when on tour. No altitude and jetlag and they so often collapse. Hence I will be pleasantly surprised if the win the Super 15.

All the best but dont raise your hopes too much I know how chest beating and delusional some bulle fans are.

The Mighty Stortmers fans are all quite happy the bulle got a severe packslae. Its just proved what I have been saying - bulle third best side in sa this year.Note it was hardly a Stormers side anyhwere near full strength either.

Best you get over the whipping  windpomp and not get all bitter. Bwahahahahahahahaha

 


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 18:36:06

The Bulls were not a bunch of cowards like Coetzee and his clan. They accepted the challenge and gave it a go without any complaints, unlike the Stormers who are always looking for some kind of an excuse.


mance

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 18:42:56

The Stormers season is over for barely 72 hours and already we are hearing excuses for next year. That must be some kind of record.


Rooinek

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 19:57:42

Spot on Mance.

 

I know the Stompies are famous for being whimpering little crybabies but this is pathetic even by their standards. Their season ended a week ago (a bit embarrassing after all the pre-season chest-beating and posturing) and the little dears are already blubbering about next year's competition.

 

"Boohoo, it's all so unfair, everyone hates us, whine, blubber, sniff!"

 

When I read pitiful bleating like this, I'm truly glad that I don't support the snivelling weak-arsed Stompies!


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 22:46:28

Rooinek

If you talked anymore shit, you'd be shaped like a turd.

Your just using this to bitch about the pathetic Tjarkies choking on anything from a Super Rugby final, a Currie Cup final and this year on Keegan Daniels dick. 

 

We have two trophies last year. All you got was Cobwebs to put in your trophy case

 

 


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 23:07:09

@ Spoony 

"All you got was Cobwebs to put in your trophy cabinet".  Hahhahahahahahahahaha hilarious Spoony. Who will ever forget the WP kids whipping the sharkies virtually at full strength in the Currie Cup final right in their own back yard. Bwahahahahahahahaha

Wee rooitiwt was awol for weeks was it after the Currie Cup final?

Ou rooitwit needs to look at the Super  log where we sit higher than them. But look ou rooitwit is so unrealsitic he cannot like all the rugby critics wetc take into account the 19 injuries suffered by the team he "supports". Who would want a fair weather friend like rooitwit as a supporter!

mANCe are you a bulle supporter?

windpomp the bulle accepted the challenge you say. Since when have the bulle accepted the challenge overseas. They become the blue calves. Sides like the Stormers are the ones who accept the challenge of touring down under. Also look who the Mighty Stormers beat this year with second string players. What Stormers fan cannot be proud of what was achieved given the circumstances. Notice the look of dismay on Dewaldt face when he received the SA Conference winners cup knowing as he did the bulle were not really worthy being the third best SA side.  

I am sure rooitwit's deep seated neurosis re the Mighty Stormers stems from him wanting to be a supporter but quite rightly feels unworthy! Hahahahahahahaha poor rootwit.

 

 

 


blobbok

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 16, 2013, 23:29:00

So we've a moangat coach .... big deal . The Stormers had a kak season but finishing above the guppies is a highlight & keeping em tryless in two games a bonus .

Windpomp, a moangat coach doesn't mean that the team are a bunch of cowards !  Show some decorum & control your dislike for my oaks .

 

Beano vat hom!


Rooinek

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 09:18:18

Wehe, Teaspoon quickly tries to to turn this into a "we won more than you" discussion.

 

Not really the point I was making, chump, but I do understand if you're a bit embarrassed to be associated with such a bunch of pathetic crybabies and you'd rather talk about something else. It's okay.


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 09:18:28

 Bobbok leading the maongat windpomp into the right path is what i do!

How funny it was to hear windpomp's version of the CA story !!!!!! He left that thread buried under a mountain of EGG. Bwahahahhahahahaha

Ou windpomp is very sore about the severe snotklap the bulle got so he attacks the Stormers coach who quite rightly can only be amazed at the short end of the straw his side is getting and privately wondering at the chances of the draw just happening by chance!

The bulle dont have the guts to complain. They also dont play with much gusto down under as far as I can recall. 

Away with ou windpomp - a most pompous pomp! Hahahahahahahahhaha  Ditto rooitwit lest he feels left out.


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 09:26:09

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

 

Stop the excuses, Stormers!

 

Cape Town - Sport24 readers say the Stormers must stop making excuses and accept responsibility for their disappointing Super Rugby season.

Despite the Stormers' strong finish with their 30-13 victory over the Bulls at Newlands, the Stormers were unable to make the Super Rugby playoffs as they had done for the previous two years, finishing seventh overall in the standings in what most regarded to be a disappointing season for the Cape side.

A recent statement by Allister Coetzee on the difficulty of their 2014 draw was the last straw for many, who believed the coach should apply himself by addressing his team's weaknesses rather than finding fault elsewhere.

The Stormers coach has at various times during the season blamed the fixture list, referees and injuries for the Stormers' mediocre season, yet many felt it was time for the coaching staff and the players to take it on the chin and accept the blame.

This is what Sport24 readers had to say about Coetzee's complaints:

"Sour grapes. Just another effort of Allister to draw the attention away from his lack of innovation." - Luthor Jones

"I just hope Alistair gets fined for his comments on the refs this season." - LJ

"Stiff upper lip as the poms say, suck it in Allister and stop complaining." - Simon Berry

"Score more 4 try bonus point wins and you'll be in the play-off, and that's how you break the spell of mediocrity in rugby." - Sean Bagley

"Are you for real AC? What about the Bulls tour from hell this year? Did not see them complain."
- Raven Blue

"Sounds about exactly like what the Bulls had this year - and they made it to second on the log - they played the Blues, Crusaders, Reds and Brumbies on tour." - Omge Klits

"Already looking for excuses..." - Mark Schrade

"Coach let's accept this. To be the best we must beat the best anytime, any where and always." - Isak Visser

"But then all your home games will be a lot more easier Mr Coetzee, stop moaning and get on with it!" - Freedomnic

"We beat 3 out of 4 of those sides this year anyway so whats the problem?"
- Donovan Stanford

"All teams suffer tours from hell. AC has moaned this entire season, I think its time for AC to man up." - Ettienne en Aileen Steffens

"Stop complaining and get on with the game." - Tristan Laggerway

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they had home games this year against the Chiefs, Crusaders and Brumbies, it just makes sense that next year will be away games against these sides. Do they only ever want to play home games against good teams?" - Spiessa

"If you are a championship title seeking team, does it matter where the games will be played? I think a major attitude adjustment is needed."
- Charl du Preez

"This is actually very silly. Coetzee must just take time and think over this a little. Whenever on tour they normally say two out of four is a reasonable result. So we are talking about 2 games overseas that may or may not be easier. Besides, he will be playing the weaker sides (according to Coetzee) at home so that is a lekker opportunity to score 5 pointers, Mr Coetzee. The Bulls only won one game overseas and they could still have topped the log in the end. Actually come to think of it, it is better to play your four toughest matches on tour imho."
- Niko Eksteen

 

Bottom line, the Stormers are a bunch of moangatte. Always looking for an excuse. The light of their 2014 S15 campaign.................... ending one higher than the Sharks, and beating the Bulls once in the season. As if they have been all over the Bulls the entire season. Forgetting how the Bulls gave them a severe snotklap to kick off their campaign. Oh wait. They had yet another excuse............................... Jantjies.


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 09:50:53

 Oh please ou windpomp  its like you saying bryce lawrence blew it both ways - he was even handed in his mistakes. You simply lack rugby nous and the ability to see the wood from the trees being such thick oak.(Remeber your boneheadedargument re the CA story - hahahahahahahahahahahaha talk about EGG)

Well done for Allistair for voicing his displeasure. The draw should aim to give as far as possible each team the same chance. This is clearly not happerning in 2014 and didnt in 2013. Time to speak up and take the flack of the halfwits. Its one of the gooid things he has done this season. In terms of probability theory it really steches ones credulity

Keep going Alistair just ignore the half backed.

Windpomp please try and get over the Newlands whipping your tearful rants against the Stormers here are becoming more and more shrill. Bwahahahahahaha 


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 10:00:22

You can spin it any way you want. Your team was crap in 2013. They have no backbone. They beat their chests when they beat the big boys at Newlands, but they are too piss scared to do that in those teams' own backyards. Lets face it. Allister has as good as admitted that they are a bunch of cowards who are too pissed scared to rise to a challenge, and always have somebody or something to blame.

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PmvsWE1k-7w/SacihqbKPeI/AAAAAAAAAD0/m9b0d8_YqQI/s400/coward.bmp

 

 


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 10:43:55

 ou windpomp is sounding as shrill as a top class soprano.

Now he is telling us his bulle were thrashed by a team of cowards. bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha no wonder they wear pink!

More EGG lands on the notorious egg magnet vlagman.


blobbok

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 11:21:58

Nah, oom windpomp is normally a 1st class poster but when it come to us Capies & a mist descends & we get the above ......... a victory away from top 6 despite a daunting injury toll hardly deserves the accolade of being pisspoor, unmotivated & spineless cowards .

 

Something must of happened in CT to wind up die pomp .


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 17, 2013, 11:30:47

If your team ending up one above another SA team, but still down in the third spot on the SA table and 7th overall, is a highlight for you, then go for it. And if beating the Bulls at Newlands, on top of that, makes it all a great achievement in your eyes, then so be it. To me it sounds a lot like mediocrity.

 

To then blame it on your useless coach, refs and injuries is nothing but bad sportsmanship.

 

To start complaing about facing "the big guns in their own backyards" more than six months in advance tells me only one thing. They are cowards who are scared to move away from Newlands.

 

You are forever harping on about the Bulls travelling record, but go have a look at the Stormers' away record this year. The only teams that they managed to beat in away games are teams who ended up below them on the log. Thier away results look like this:

Beat Southern Kings(15th on the log) 24-12

Lost to the Rebels (12th) 30-21

Lost to Waratahs (9th) 21-15

Lost to the Blues (10th) 17-18

Beat Hurricanes (11th) 16-18

Lost to Cheetahs (6th)  26-24

Lost to the Sharks (8th) 12-6

Lost to the Bulls 25-17

 

Looks to me like they are in deep shit if they don't have their booing crowd behind them.

 


Spooony

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 01:17:26

@ Rooinek 

That would make the Tjarkies even more pathetic considering they finished up 4 points behind the Stormers......

Whats your point Ceradyne?

They manage to beat the teams above them on the log as well. What are you trying to say?

 

Have you missed the season before? Stormers got some dodgey calls on the road


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 08:53:59

Please windpomp can you, for your ownsake, try to cease this drivel.

I am dealing in facts when I say huge injury counts negatively affected the Stormers and Sharkies. Ditto bad refs.

Calling the side that whipped the bulle playing without a number of class players cowards smacks of very bad sportsmanship.

"Allister has as good as admitted that they are a bunch of cowards who are too pissed scared to rise to a challenge"  Oom vlagman seems to be very bitter about the loss and is really loosing his marbles.

Why would Allistair admit they are cowards and why would he think that? How come this outburst just after the bulle get smashed. Bwahahhahaahahhaha

Yes Blobbok there has always been that little cabal of ranting anti WP oaks there with the windpomp amongst them. When ou windpomp gets beyond that he can be informative and a good poster. However when he tries to defend the indefensible as he did in relation to me on the saffex moderating post he ends up again under mountains of EGG. When will he learn? (The poor oak by now is probably wishing his conspiracy friends were here to help and he had his banning button to press!)

Anyhow dispite all ou windpoms sad drivel we all, I would think, still wish the bulle well and say bring back the title boys! Ditto the Cheethas.  My one doubt in this regard is the ab wannabee rooitwit should the bulle meet a nz side!!!!

 

 


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 09:34:35

Excuses excuses. I hear old Allister is thinking of changing his name to Beeno Coetzee. He has apparently bee reading this forum. I am not bitter about the loss. It has at least provided for a hell of a lot of laughs, because it was obvious that you would be beating your chest for the next few years about it.

 

Talking about injuries, and I am by no means blaming the Bulls loss on injuries, you bunch of moangat Stormers should get over your injuries excuse. All the teams have had their faor share of injuries this entire season. Think about the Bulls list. Arno Botha, Pierre Spies, Jan Serfontein, Lionell Mapoe, Louis Fouche, Junadre Kruger, Paul Willemse, Francois Hougaard. That is eight players right there, off the top of my head. Have you seen any Bulls supporter, or Frans Ludeke bitching about that and blaming the loss on injuries? And before you even think about it, I do not blame the injuries either. The Bulls has just gone through a bad patch in the last two games, and hopefully they will be on the go again in two weeks.

 

You have been without Schalk Burger for two years now, and as far as I can see you are not even missing him. It does not look like you are missing either of Duane Vermeulen or Tiaan Liebenberg either. So... what went wrong? Your useless coward of a coach and his cronies are to blame. And you are defending him.


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:02:35

 Oh please why do you think commentators say the biulle and cheetahs have not had much in te way of injuries. Bulle injuries have been lighter and for shorter periods.

Also windpomp  eight players compared to 18 (Stormers) and 19 (Sharks) is a huge difference. Then the oak says we are not missing, Guys like Tiaan or vermuelen or Schalk or Bekker( if he had remembered him) or Taute or Rhodes etc. Thankfully Elstadt at last came back. Man has vlagman got any clue at all.

As I said windpomp you saving grace was not meeting the 940 kg Stormers power pack as it would have been carnage.

The egg magnet windpomp continues to perform.

Had ou Allistair been reading my posts he would certainly have had Deon Fourie at 6 before Kolisi! A no brainer.

I see ou windpomp is now shifting his stance by calling Allistair and his cronies a coward.Who are Aliistairs cronies. Previously it was Allistair and the players.

Get over you humiliation vlagman you are sounding all bitter and very twisted. I actually cant recall anyone ever  call another team who has just given their side a solid hiding cowards. Bwahahahhahahaha ou windpomp is loosing whatever marbles he has left and that cant be many!


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:04:30

Name those 18 injuries.


blobbok

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:32:00

Minderwaardigheidskompleks . Probably aimed more at the people than the team methinks .


Spooony

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:42:40

Province Craven Week team joined the DHL WP Under-13 and Under-16 teams as the unofficial champions of their respective youth weeks this season – as WP suffered just one defeat in ALL schools tournaments across the country in 2013.

 

Against the Rebels we got ripped off

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/130522/Stormers_penalty_try_an_honest_mistake

 

Against the Blues we got ripped off

The Blues were outplayed by the Stormers at North Harbour Stadium, where goal kicks beat a try scoring South African team better known for defence. Kiwi's used to scoff at South African teams for winning like that.

 

 

Aganst the Bulls we got ripped off with a dodgey Bulls try

http://www.sareferees.com/laws/view/2830006/

 

That is 9 to 12 points that should have gone the Stormers way 

 

Having beaten all the 2013 Super Rugby Conference winners at Newlands (the Brumbies, the Bulls and the Chiefs), this season’s

So eat shit


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:49:54

All teams get "ripped off" from time to time. IIRC, one such case was in the Bulls/Brumbies game.


Beeno1

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July 18, 2013, 10:51:00

 I have done web search and all these players were in injured and missed chances of being selected.

Ex Deon Carsten, Cilliers, Tiaan, Malherbe, Bekker, Etzebeth, Elstadt, Vermuelen, Kolisi, Rhodes, Ntubeni, Grant, Taute, Ruan Botha, Van Aswegen, Jean, Joe, Steenkamp, Deon Fourie, Jantjes, Habana , van Der Heever, De Jongh.

I also heard Du Plessi got injured as folk were at one point wondering why he wasnt selected.

That actually is 24 players so how those journalists came up with 17 before the kolisi nI dont know. Huge disruption and missing of very significant performers.

Consider us pumping the bulle without players in the pack like Tiaan, Malherbe, Bekker Vermuelen and Schalk!!!!!!! But these second stringers who whipped the bulle are cowards!!! bwahahhahahahaha talk about sour grapes. 

The EGG continues to land on that notorius egg magnet vlagman. Its seems to have an inevitability about it.

 


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 10:59:11

"That would make the Tjarkies even more pathetic considering they finished up 4 points behind the Stormers......"

 

Teaspoon, I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or if you're not bright enough to grasp the simple point I'm making, but note that it was the Blowhards (Stompie supporters) who were beating their chests before the tournament kicked off and who bragged about how the Hapless Stompies were the best team in the tournament, not the Sharks supporters.

 

It was also the Blowhards who wept and blubbered like a bunch of pathetic crybabies every time one of their crap players got injured. In stark contrast, the Sharks supporters took it on the chin and simply wished the replacement player good luck.

 

It was the Blowhards who bitched and whined about every single refereeing decision that ever went against their team and accused the refs of cheating . . . and it's the Stompies management who are already squealing about next year's fixtures as if they're the only team thats ever had to play against the other top sides. I can only think of Sharktwat who subscribed to these same refereeing conspiracy theories and he's not a real Sharks supporter anyway, he just supports whichever team suits him in any given season.

 

In summary, I know that the Sharks and the Stompies both performed below expectations this season . . . I'm merely pointing out the difference in how the two sets of supporters conducted themselves before, during and after the tournament. It's chalk and cheese. The one set of supporters . . . ironically the same ones who bragged and boasted pre-season . . . who are still snivelling and crying (and already bleating about next years competition) about all the supposed injustices while the other set of supporters haven't made any excuses, have accepted their team just played crap this year and are hoping for an improvement next year.

 

Now, if this latest reply of mine inspires yet another "uhhhh . . . duh-huh but . . . uhhh . . . but we got more points than you"  type response from you then rather don't bother. Seriously.


Beeno1

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 11:15:50

Morning to you rooitwit I had hoped that for once you would make a sensible post but alas on that score.

Tell me rooitwit did the 18 or 19 injuries sustained by the the sharks (A huge number commented upon by many) effect their log standings or not .

A simple answer by the simpleton rooitwit would suffice. 

I notice ou valgman has withdrawn from the debate - maybe he has a limit after all regarding the egg he can handle!! Hahhaahahhahaha - these chest beating bulle fasn , not all, take it so hard when their delusioanal bubbles are burst.

 

 


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 11:24:58
Sour grapes hey? Alright, which South African team topped the SA conference and was second in the overall log? Just checking! The Bulls were given no chance this year in the Super Rugby tournament. Yet with their crap coach, team full of has been and never been players, with public enemy number one Pierre Spies as captain, outdated strategy and an away leg from hell, they managed to beat the Sharks twice and the Stormers (When they were nearly full strength) once.

Yeah....Bulls really suck.


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 11:42:25

Stormers were below their normal standard this year, and thats just the way it is. The Sharks were poorly prepared and thats the way it is.

to blame refs is sad and in my books and a deflection from the real issue that at critical times certain teams fail to reach their potential. I think the Stormers or should i have said Coetzee is grasping after the performance they put in against the Bulls it goes to show that they obviously lacked the motivation earlier on and were their own worse enemies.

 


Ceradyne

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 11:46:59

I am not discounting the influence of injuries at all, but ie we coungt the number of injuries over the season, it becomes a useless excercise. If we do that, we will find that all of the teams had a lot of injuries. The ones who suffered the most was, without doubt, the Sharks, because they had the bad luck of many of those injuries at the same time, and often the replacements also picked up injuries. If you really want to count the injuries over the season, the Bulls probably had more than eight injuries. I am not too sure, because I don't care and don't use that as an excuse. By using the Beeno model, one would have to add the names of Stegmann, Ndungane, Dewald Potgieter, Jacques Potgieter, Jano Vermaak, Zane Kirchner, etc, who all missed games at some stage during the competition. That alreday brfings the Bulls tally up to 14. I forgot about Francois Venter. Make that 15. I am sure there were more. Add to that the fact that you still have Schalk Burger on your list. Did you miss him, after two years? Forget about Bekker. He has pissed off. Just as We now have to write of Juandre Kruger, because he is now a gonner as well, and would have had his last game against the Stormers. The same goes for Wynand Olivier.

 

The issue is that it is always the Stormers who are trying to bend the rules to "accomodate" their injuries. That is when they are not busy bitching about it. Think about the use of Schalk Britz, at some stage. Always this bitching, and if Allister and the Stormers are worried about the 2014 program, it only means one thing. They are too scared to tackle the top NZ and OZ sides in their own backyards. Flippin cowards.


Buzz

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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 11:55:20

I have to agree with Ceradyne to an extent it does come across as a small bit of cowardice, The Stormers have to play the best to win, as every team has to. What bothers me in this situation is that it appears that Coetzee is making or should i say Stroking the aura of these teams. Who is to say these teams will be the hot property of the Super 15 next year.


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 18, 2013, 12:02:16
Coetzee should stop blaming everyone and everything else for the Stormers poor show this year and start blaming himself for his atrocious player identification and selections. If he does some introspection and try and see where he himself can do better - there is still some hope for them in future. I still say he deserves the boot..


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RE: Coetzee slams tour from hell
July 19, 2013, 13:55:30

Jungle jiver coetzee already making excuses for keeping his job. if they lose a couple next year then coetzee will rehash this argument again to try and save a bit of face. what a absolute and complete wanker

 

bulls sharks cheetahs all had there fair share of rubbish overseas tours only the amazing plonker coetzee will cause a stir....

 

all the sexual favours that he doing to the racist theo wakefield must be wearing thin if the excuses are allready coming for the next season....


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