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Boklogic

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Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 07:33:21

This weekend we saw the Stormers spoil the Bulls party. The week before it was almost the Sharks upsetting the Bulls. With both these two SA teams (Sharks and Stormers) playing for no more than pride, we saw them still go out there an give it there all. They were out to do no favours for their fellow countrymen and they were playing to win in a fair competition.

 

Then we get the Blues v Chiefs last night and Chris Pollocks performance. An official enquiry must take place there. We saw Pollock going out of his way to make sure the Chiefs win that game! Red card for rucking on the shoulder blades/back?? Yellow card for Kerr knocking the ball on whilst trying to intercept. We see that in open play all the time. That was just great play by Kerr. The ball did not go out before bouncing in the field of play, his hands were facing up. It was nothing more than a dropped attempted catch. That red card was a penalty at most. Not even a yellow card.

 

The refs must be more mindful of the paying public. That totall ruins the game. Any momentum the Blues got was quickly snuffed out by Pollock. Chiefs had full reign. They were never going to be "allowed" to lose that game because NZL know exactly what will happen if the final is in SA! Chiefs can still taste the 2009 final against the Bulls.

 

When will this [removed] from these kiwi's end?? Play a fair game man! Waratahs almost upset the Reds. Force upset the Brumbies but Kiwi's were never gona let the game be left up to the players!

 

I hope now the Crusaders get through now and knock the Chiefs out (which is likely what will happen as Chiefs have faded badly) and Bulls win their semi so it back fires on these cheating [removed]s!


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 07:53:26

 Even a kiwi calls for Pollock to be held accountable and dropped. All in the article.

 

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/17991703/blues-coach-kirwan-incensed-over-ref-ruling/


steinlager1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 08:13:57

..um i think the ref was only acting on a report from the linesman was'nt he when he issued the red card as play was allowed to continue up til then.??? Sounds like you're blaming the ref who was acting on the touch judges report for the Bulls pitiful performance lol.

High stakes now though and the Kiwis have a strong hand thanks to the Stormers. Thanks Bweeno. Good stuff mate.

Also highlighting a very average Bulls outfit not looking like much either so looks like the Kiwis are heavy favourites.

Just think Boklogic , you'll be able to watch the final live at Waikato stadium. Not many yarpies get that chance so please stop your whinging and just enjoy the game...


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 08:24:18
Boklogic

I think the whole issue was crooked by the referee so as to ensure a Chiefs win. I think that a Red Card would have been appropriate if the player was injured - not otherwise. I think even the yellow card of Kerr was rubbsish. The referee saw that his first measure did not have the desired effect and then took further action to ensure that the Chiefs end up the victors in the game. That was the end of the story and Kirwan is right about the whole issue.

I think the quality of refereeing in New Zealand is poor in any event and hope that Pollock is not reffing anu further games in Super 15. I hope there is no Ne Zealand refs reffing the Brumbies - Cheetahs game - since they would cook that one as well - in the hope that the Cheetahs will have to play the Chiefs in the semis in an effort to ease the Chiefs through to he final at home.

If the Brumbies beat the Cheetahs - the semis will be between the Chiefs and the Crusaders and that would almost certainly means a Chiefs loss. That has the potential of the final be outside of New Zealand - so we can expect some real shennanigans to eliminate such a situation.


steinlager1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 08:35:24

Clevermike what does the rule book say out of interest in such an event ?

Especiallly considering he was unsighted at the time of the alleged incident where contact was made with the head.

Were the refs hands tied by rigid rules or was the option of putting it on report available instead ?

Unless you can quote the rulebook then you're just speculating to suit your own agenda.


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 09:08:42

Its a law book. Rugby have laws not rules.

 

Steinlager when Bulls supporters moan its rather best to laugh it off as there is no point arguing with them. They worse than woman 


Denny

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 09:26:47

There's no doubt about Chris Pollock having a shocker but so too did Steve Walsh.......Pollock I can forgive, he's usually alright but Walsh is a serial offender.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 11:42:51

 Denny, common denominator is kiwi blood. Sure Welsh is under the Aussie banner but he pumps kiwi blood and that is the problem..They can not help themselves. They need to manipulate results wherever they can! Bent as [removed]!!

 

Steinlager, Chiefs wont get passed the Saders my friend so dont get your hopes up on a Waikato based final! They could hardly get passed a 13 man Blues team with the help of the ref and Saders showed them exactly what they are worth a couple weeks ago! Also, it was not a call from the Assistan ref. The ref asked to see the replay on the big screen and he made the call!


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 11:53:39
No Boklogic. They are just [removed] at refereeing. They are not bias.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 12:15:43

 Good to see the tin foil hat wearing brigade out, not content to whinge about referees involving saffa teams they'll now whinge about results where a saffa team wasn't even playing.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 12:18:31

 So by clevermike's logic you can ruck heads as long as you don't injure the other player.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 12:29:40

 Poi-e, rucking heads is a non-entity here because no head was rucked. Surely the best man to determine whether his head was stood on would be Craig Clarke himself. He confirmed that this was not the case.

 

Kiwi refs will do the necessary to ensure kiwis are in the best possible position to win. Thats what that was. Pollock do his best to make the final in NZL again because he knows what happens in SA!


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 12:38:48

 Umm rucking/stamping is illegal in rugby anyway, if you're daft enough to do it in front of an AR with even the suggestion of head contact then you deserve everything you get, Barrett forced Chris Pollocks hand he or JK cant have too many complaints...

 

 

As for Bulls, their destiny was in their own hands, they blew it, you can't pin that on Chris Pollock


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 13:07:32
poi-e

I looked at that incident a couple of rimes and there was no clear evidence that he rucked his head. Even the player concerned - Clark - mentioned nothing of the kind. Sure rucking is not acceptable - but a red card is not called for - a yellow card definitely at most. The yellow card incident was a farce - it happened often enough that players jumped up to intercept a ball and I have never seen a yellow card for that before. Mostly a scrum if the ball is knocked on or in exceptional cir[removed]stances if a try is about to be scored a penalty and yellow card - but the latter was not applicable in this case.

This really smelled bad and I would not be surprised if Pollock gets a cooling off period to think about his poor display - much like they did with Berry - the SA ref who fouled up badly in the Stormers - Cheetahs game. However, it is not only my impression - it is Kirwan's as well - so it is likely that there will be a storm brewing in New Zealand circles about that one.


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 13:28:10

Poi-I cmon you have to admit the Kiwi refs are [removed]. In fact in NZ they do not give a [removed] about referees. They even made Bryce referee of the year who not up to standard. Look at the line of [removed] ups that came from NZ refereeing the game. Lawrence, Walsh, Pollock.

 

Only ray of light and one on the right path is Glen Jackson who isatill developing

Look who is doing duty on the Kiwi referees website giving people advice

 

http://referees.allblacks.com/index.cfm?layout=askExpertsQuestion&id=185


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 14:16:31

" Good to see the tin foil hat wearing brigade out, not content to whinge about referees involving saffa teams they'll now whinge about results where a saffa team wasn't even playing."

LMFAO, :oD


blame NZ refreee in a chiefs v blues match, for the bulls not finishing on top of the ladder, o_O
thats right up there with beeno1 aka storminged saying the frenchies should just forget about the All Blacks test if a NZ ref is officiating, LMFAO, :oD

re head stomp
IMO barret did stamp on his head, replay of the incident was conclusive when the TMO played it for the ref, dont think it deserved a red though, i agreed with the commentators at most it was a yellow card at most, but was something that looked a lot worse then it was>
what i do find funny is that barrets ruck of the head which is what it was was a million times worse then what thomoson did to the scottish dude which the scottish dude even testified too saying it was nothing, but the cries about foul play were rampant, but now that the result dosent go a certain way, its time to break out the worlds smallest violins, for the worlds most whinging fans.

pollock was pretty poo in that game though and the chiefs reaped the benefits of his incompetence big time, but the crying and whinging here as if the chiefs couldnt beat the blues has me going YAWWWWWWWWWN!!!!


allblacknblue

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 14:53:16

Thats it lads lay the foundations for your excuses early! Even the most one eyed saffa can surely look at the table and see yet another super rugby title goin the kiwis way! The prob for us is where to put the bloody thing!

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Go ahead and sack all the kiwi refs if you want, I wouldn't have to hear all about them week in week out then. That might leave a bit of a shortage however.... Now here's a thought why don't some of you [removed]s put your hand up and go ref a few games and take their place, i don't care if your south african....Just don't [removed] it up!


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 14:53:52
Boklogic Pollock had a crap game, how you extrapolate that to manipulating results reinforces how some SA posters grasp Conspiracy theories to explain losses. If this was the case then it in effect is match fixing which as far as I know is a criminal offence....any charges laid? I think Ali Williams summed it up best when he asked Pollock after the red carding "What game do you think we're playing", Pollock is one of those refs who overreacts when he sees a lifted boot and if continues to have crappy games then demote him.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 22:47:30

Look guys, you are missing the point. No one is blaming Pollock for the Bulls finishing second. What we are saying is that he did his darndest to make sure the Chiefs were in with a shout of finishing 1st and giving them a chance of hosting a NZL final should it all go according to plan.

 

Not saying the Blues would have one in any event but Pollock made sure they didnt! Blues did look the better team and Chiefs have been fading the past few weeks. I guess we will never know if the Blues could have won and we have Pollock to thank for that.

 

No doubt he was "let know" before the game that in the interests of NZ rugby, the Chiefs must win this game. Sure no charges have been laid but are they ever? Were they laid against Lawrence or was he just sacked like the piece of [removed] he is?

 

All we are saying is that fair refs let the players dictate the game. Sure it would have been awesome for the Bulls and Brumbies to win for their respective countries but they did not beat their opponents. Ref blew a fair game. Blues were up against it from the start and something needs to be done.

 

I feel the Bulls will be too strong for the the Brumbies/Cheetahs at home when you take travel in to account and they will meet the Crusaders at Loftus anyway so it may just backfire on the Kiwi's this time.

 

How come every questionable rugby game has been reffed by a kiwi. 2007 Super 14 final - Steve Walsh (cant escape the kiwi blood under Aussi flag.) SA vs Ireland and O'Gara's try - Paul Honiss! 2011 WC semi final SA vs Aus - Bryce Lawrence. 2013 Blues vs Chiefs (game questioned by Kiwi himself JK) - Chris Pollock. 2011 WC Aus vs Ireland - Bryce Lawrence??

 

See Kiwi's, this is one issue you can not sweep under the table with jokes or retaliation. This is a real problem. You guys are bent as [removed] and now we must believe that your players are drug free?? Ha ha you guys are the kings of cover ups and cheating but like Lance Armstrong..It will all come out one day when one of these bent [removed]s is short of cash and needs to write a book exposing all!

I am starting to see why NZ rugby has such a great record. Your refs are the biggest reason for that.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 22:52:20

 'Unhinged'...starring Illogical Small[removed].


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 23:32:54

Boklogic we all, apart from a few denialist kiwis, know nz refs are as bent as boomerangs. Is this the same Pollock that blew the Stormers out of a game against the crusties.

What is hugely funny is to see kiwis going ballistic at how bad a kiwi ref is - hahahahahaahhahahahahahaha tough on the blues of course but soooo funny.

then note how the kiwi bird brain twist matters so as to make it look as if we are blaming a kiwi ref for bulle coming second on the log after their whipping by the Mighty Stormers. Its called creating a diversion.

Note though that kiwis never complain if its a foreign side getting the short end via a bent kiwi ref.

saSUE whereas StormingEd was clearly mortified by my associating him with you he is no doubt highly flattered by you associating him with me! Thats the difference saSUE.

No I still say ban all kiwi refs.  Enough is enough.

By the way do you kiwis realise 4 of the top eight sides are SA teams. Also our third strongest side came second on the log. Makes you think eh kiwis. But for a huge injury toll (And bent kiwi refs) we might have had three sides in the top four?

 


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 23:35:19
No one else seems to have a problem with kiwi refs or kiwi anything except SA posters to this forum, how come there is no outcry from the SA coaches, players, or officialdom about the reffing, so its a real problem because SA forum posters say its so but to the people who are actually entrenched in the game, the stakeholders, nary a complaint justifying action. No the reason NZ has a great record is because we have great teams, history over 100 yrs supports this, and crook refs Boklogic, you've had your share as I've mentioned several posts in past, and AB team travelling to SA pre islolation expected to play the playing 15 and the ref as there were no neutrals, so if there are bent refs SA pioneered it.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 14, 2013, 23:38:42

 Of course it would be impossible to believe the Chiefs could beat Auckland without the help of Chris Pollock...unless you're Illogial Small[removed] or the board's lunatic fringe.


steinlager1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 00:17:10

Well if i had so many issues with Kiwis i'd [removed] off back to where i came from rather than bite the hand that feeds me.

Spending all that money on a Blues jersey might not have been such a good idea either lol.

Perhaps try investing in a Crusaders or Chiefs jersey next year .

Bweeno good [removed] setting the Kiwis up for a home semi . But better luck next year and i can see why yarpies don't excell at league given all the injuries you experience. Just not tough enough mate.


FirstFive

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 02:12:13

We don't play league because we don't want to. It's a kak game.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 03:42:42

Poly, no SA coaches need to raise a concern..Your own countrymen are doing it for us! Going Chris Pollock..Take your seat alongside Bryce and co in the rugby all time hall of shame or in NZL "Hall of fame!"

 

You right, SA does have one ref who allowed himself to succomb to pressure once but hey, you guys love him. He did it so u can win the 2011 WC!

 

Based on the Chiefs performance of late and the intensity the Blues played with, yes, the Chiefs would not have won that game on the night or at least would have had an extremely hard time doing so. They are fading badly and are going to become easy beats for the far superior Crusaders. Crusaders have a bit of brain..All the Chiefs had was SBW..Is it any wonder the Chiefs are also proud holders of the team that has leaked the most tries this year? They are just lucky that to date, they have scored the most too but against the Saders, expect them just to leak!

 

Steinlager, im glad you feel you have the authority to tell people where to go. When I am good and ready I will head to Aussie where we get a bit of sun and straighter refs! As for league, its a crap game but judging how our forwards dominate you guys, I reckon we would dominate there if we took it seriously. Big guys from numbers 1 to 13 thrashing you cakes but thankfully, we like to use our brains a bit as opposed to a "war of attrition" that is rugby league. Pity the kiwi's are the Aussies bunnies in league too so is it really your game??


steinlager1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 04:17:56

Considering you're living in NZ  i really shouldn't have to school you with the facts but  the Kiwis are World Champions at Rugby League and have been for the last four years.  

The Bunnies though are winning the NRL i think thats Russel Crowes team , A Kiwi winning the Aussie comp with his Rabbitohs.

And South Africa has got a league team no doubt playing in this years WC in October even if you want to disown them . That's pretty typical of your fickle supporters though.

Transition some of them into your Bok team and they might be better than the players you've already got as SBW, Folau etc have proven for NZ and Oz.


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 05:31:46
Boklogic - well said. It is a well known and do[removed]ented FACT that kiwis are cheats when it comes to rugby.

Their manipulation of refs is now at the forefront of this farcical topic. I haven't yet found out who the ref is for Reds v Cruds tjhis weekend but my gut is telling me the rigged cheating cruds will employ Jackson who is no doubt the heir-apparent to the most BENT cheat of all Bryce Lawrence.

I think as far as this goes Aussies and Saffas should unite to rid the rugby world of the scourge that is BENT kiwi refs..... Then we would see IF they are actually any good at rugby or just plain manipulating CHEATs!!

Be well aware Boklogic I have seen the cheating go on for at least the past 5 seasons and whether its PCness or weak excuses like (incompetence) it is a travesty that cheating in professional rugby can be allowed to continue to the degree it does - PARTICULARLY when it always favours the kiwis....

I have hope though that the tides will turn and the cheats will be on the receiving end in the near future and then we shall hear some whinging!!!!!!!!!!


steinlager1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 06:02:14

Redsman already making excuses cause he knows the Crusaders are gunna smash the Reds.

Please Red no poor sportsmanship like last year when you ran screaming from the forum after the Sharks game calling Kaplan a dirty cheat,


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 06:03:16
Update - SA ref Jaco is Ref for Cruds clash - hopefully he can reverse the trend of bent cheating refs assisting the kiwis win stuff...


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 06:10:44
Recall kiwis whinging pretty hard when Stu penalised Richie last time we owned the cruds @ suncorp... pathetic how you guys cant see that youre only any good at rugby because you manipulate the refs..........

Even if Reds do lose - still owned 4/4 kiwi teams this year even with you bent refs reffing most of the time. Good stat considering Ewen gonna take the reigns in RC now that we got rid of your idiot countryman deans.!


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 06:23:51

 No chance for the Reds, Oz rugby is dying and would be dead if it weren't for the crutch NZ rugby provides, humiliated by the Lions, in debt up to their eye balls, full of pretentious spoilt brats on the payroll, can't win a rugby trophy to save themselves and they count the flouncing Redsman as a supporter. If they were a horse you'd shoot it.


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 06:37:38

 pooooie nz refs are crap. End of story.

Given Oz form this season against nz sides it would appear in comparison nz rugby is is a dead horse and no need to waste a bullet!. Hahahahahahahahahaha


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 07:04:18

 Beeno, if I wanted your opinion I'd ask StormingEd/StormingEd* or WPSupporter for it you multi handle twat.


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 07:31:07

 pooooooooooie who is WP Supporter - havent noticed him. What thread did he post under. Always like to welcome newbies.

Firstfive a warm welcome tro the board. trust you will be entertained and have many a good laugh etc.  Are you a WP supporter?


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 08:02:18
Lets not waste our time on this issue anymore. Kirwan - who is by all accounts a trusted and truthful person -was left fuming about it and it and has raised the issue with the Referees Panel. Pollock will no doubt at the very least be investigated and if the two incidents are indeed as questionable as they seemed - then action would be taken.

This could be meaning a cooling-off period like happened to Berry after the foul up in the Cheetahs- Stormers game - or it could even be his removal from the penal to referee Super 15 games in future and fatal to his hopes to be on the international pool in future.


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 08:30:06

Well done to honest" sir johnie. Hopefully we will see some action others having simialr problems will refer matters and we shall see less kiw refs around. Bwahahahahahahhaahhahaha -watch the kiwi win ratios plummet!

We await the outcome with great interest. has sir johnie unwitting signed the death warrant of nz rugby? Or is the horse already dead?


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:02:16

You should remember him Beeno, you posted as him for a single post, I exposed WPSupporter as another one of you lame multis and then we never heard from him again, no doubt you'll reinvent WPSupporter* when you realise you forgot the login credentials.

 

 

Seriously, I doubt there's a more pathetic poster than you on the internet....


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:11:38
Beeno

Just to add one thing. Blackadder last year went for Bryce Lawrence after a Super 15 game last year and that meant the end of Bryce as a Super 15 referee as well. So what is going to happen with Pollock is everyone's guess.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:34:17

OMG, are there any moderate Saffa posters on this board anymore?  Mike are you now doing your best Beeno impression?  Chris Pollock has stated there is a clear instruction from the IRB that any contact with the boot to the head is an automatic red, the rucking/stamping (which is illegal anyway) may have been across the top of the shoulder but it was more than close enough to the back of the neck for a red card to be justifiable in this instance.

 

 

Just because JK has been knighted doesn't make him wrong.

 

 

As for Pollock, if you think you can do a better job Mike, by all means pick a whistle, otherwise try to objectively watch a game of rugby for a change, the continual bleating about ref performances after every single match ad nauseam is seriously getting old, and frankly smacks of poor sportsmanship.  I'd expect that kind of behavious from the trolls on this board (Illogical Small[removed], Aussie Alucard and Beeno/StormingEd/StoringEd*/WPSupporter) but I didn't consider you an out and out troll...maybe I gave you too much credit.

 

 

As for Blackadder ending Bryce Lawrences career, absolute unsubstantiated garbage again.

 

 

 

 

 


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:48:23

 [removed]-e what are you talking about "objectively" watch a game. Thats impossible with a kiwi ref in charge. Always have to make the game anout them. You never hear of the players after the game, always the refs poor performance. I am starting to believe these [removed]s are just incompetent fools.

 

I love the response to this post from all the half wit kiwi's trying to defend themselves but its getting increasingly harder as these events are becoming more and more common. When will it ever end?? My guess is as long as Kiwi's are reffing, it never will. Its the shady breeding here. Its ingrained!


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:53:10

The [removed] talks of shady breeding, nice try Kobus.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 09:56:04

 Bwahahahahaha I rest my case!

 

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/18005508/super-rugby-pollock-overlooked-for-semi-final-qualifiers/


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 10:00:24

Hang on, isn't there still a kiwi reffing this weekend you drooling halfwit?


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 10:03:44

 Who ever said there wasn't?? Give him time..He will [removed] up and cheat..They always do..You boys are a laugh..Exposed time and time again..You talk of SA refs before the days of tv. You boys are doing it for all the world to see in the professional era..Shame on you, you kiwi [removed]s!! ;-)


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 10:23:25
poi-e

Sorry if I upset you. I was trying to put this discussion on hold by leaving it to the authorities to decide on the issue. Also said I trusted them to do the correct thing.

Did Blackadder not lodge a complaint against Bryce Lawrence reffing last year? I believe he did - and the game he complained about was the last game Lawrence reffed on Super 15 level - was it not? I mentioned this as an example of refs being put on what I call cooling off periods - nothing more. Lawrence had a terrible refereeing record and was taken off the IRB panel and eventually taken off the Sanzar Panel as well and promoted by the NZ Board to educate young refs coming through. Hope he does better in his present position - but doubt it very much


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 10:32:39

No one is making excuses ya Kiwi bawgbags.

 

All we are saying is that Kiwi referees are [removed] and not up to standard.

 

Cheers 


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 10:59:24

Well Illogical SC, you're on here claiming an epic win because Pollock's not reffing this weekend - your thread title is ban all Kiwi refs, Glen Jackson is still reffing an you're trying to initiate a a round of applause for this... guess who else isn't reffing this weekend....Craig Joubert, corruption?  What a mong!


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:10:28

http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag123/ThebeardofAmla/craigbulls_zps5851d372.jpg

 

How the [removed] do you inset a image in this place]


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:11:18

 I still believe he should be banned merely for being kiwi. Its unfortunate if he is a "good" one but he must pay the price for his crooked countrymen. Besides, Jackson is just as crooked as the rest. He just has not been exposed yet. Have patience. It will come. Its inevitable when your'e a kiwi.

 

PS. Even if Craig isn't reffing, its not because he had to be stood down for incompetence or cheating you dumb [removed]! Your guys are fired!


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:13:27
poi-e

I do not think all NZ referees are bad. I have seen Jackson reffing a number of games - and he did not make any glaring mistakes, I do not think referees should be the key discussion after matches - they are normally in the wrong in such an event. So Jackson with his career as a referee in mind - would be extra careful in future as well.

It is more than likely that Craig Joubert - recognised universally as the top referee in world rugby - is reserved to ref the final - so we are unlikely to see him before then.


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:44:29

  "I still believe he should be banned merely for being kiwi"

 

Finaly we get to the root of the matter and small[removed]s racist agenda has been exposed.  Banning someone for an attribute they have no control over....ie skin colour, birth place, parentage etc is a bigoted ideology with direct parallels with South Africa's nefarious history. Oh well, I always knew small[removed] was a red neck yokel with a disturbingly offensive agenda. but 


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:46:04

Kiwi's is not a race its a nasionality you numpty 


Ihi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 11:47:18

man this is really hilarious! wasnt it a south african who made the all bleks world champions? hahahahaha


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 12:18:26

 No nuke, its not racism..Its been proven that a recipe for poor reffing is to be kiwi..They are born cheats...Bent sons of [removed]es the lot of them. Its inevitable that Jackson will cause a stir one day so rather save kiwi's further disrepute and embarrassment...

 

We have given you numerous chances..Its just not working!!


Ihi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 12:22:53

well boklogic i want answers about that son of a [removed] that handed new zealand the world cup. he was a saffer! from my perspective here in australia south africa worked hand in paw with new zealand the world cup!


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 12:26:32

You want answers from NZ prime minister? Not muc he will be able to tell you as he just handed it to McCaw for the sake of the cerimony.  


Ihi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 12:32:01

My point is that its not just new zealand refs, saffers are involved to. so either the irb is rigging the sport withy a mafia cabal running things and threatening refs (not that frikin unrealistic - been done in football by the mafia who have killed players and refs!!) or both saffer and kiwi refs are just plain biased. you decide.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 13:00:35

 It's OK Illogical Small[removed] is angry because he has to sweep the floors and make the tea for his Kiwi boss...right after he finishes sucking off Sione Lauaki's uncle.


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 13:04:37

Is that what your dad said Poi-e? 


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 13:25:33

Maybe, but it could be what your dad said, ask him when you meet him.


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 14:24:30

So you are saying we are twins?

 

Please explain this for me

 

 


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 14:49:55
Boklogic and co, Kirwan asks for a system similar to the NRL where the refs performance is reviewed after each game, not just kiwi refs but all refs. These posts though seem to add to SA posters view of NZ rugby, that our refs cheat, the IRB is kiwi bias, that any great player we have cheats, that PI players are poached from the Islands, etc, etc all at detriment to SA rugby. There seems to be a view that SA rugby is lily white and untouchable who suffer also from politics, quota requirements, top players always being injured (even though there is a "deep" pool of talent), crap coaches, which explains why they aren't number 1 in the world. Some SA posters have a total disregard for NZ rugby despite the fact that a nation of 4 million is able to produce world class talent continuously and has the most feared rugby team on the planet.


CleanCut

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 15:22:17

 

So tell me polly ... from your derogatory post above ... would you say it's fair that we too be allowed to make similar toned comments about your team and country ... or ... do you expect us to take it without an appropriate response?

 

Just asking??

 

 

 

 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 19:22:25

with the gap of rugby success widening between NZ and SA every year, im not surprised to see some of the saffas here blame the ref for their teams failures, SA is after all very passionate about their rugby and when ur this passionate yet have a rugby record like this,,,
SA - 17 super rugby tournaments - 3 titles
SA - 16 TriNats - 3 titles
SA - 1 IRC/4nats - 0 titles
its hardly surprising to see some cry about the refs, cos its better then facing the reality of that someone else is not just better then SA at rugby, let alone the cold hard truth of whose really better.

ive got no problems with spoonies arguments that NZ refs are crap (still better then the OZ refs) compared to some of the other refs from other nations, especially SA who IMO do have the best refs, but the sooky baby cries about cheating refs and then screaming out its facts shows a serious lack of education amongst some of the yokely dokelies, they really need to learn the difference between facts and opinons, something i have mentioned time and time again with boklogics many posts.

the reality is the referee argument is the only way saffas feel better about them selves and hey, go hard, what ever floats ur boat.
i do love how that u barely hear a whisper when saffa officials fall under the same light and scrutiny only to not even hear a peep from the locals and barely a mention from others remember the brumbies v bulls or the crusaders v bulls in loftus??? cope, cos saffa only care about things that hurt saffas team, not others, and thasts why i roll my eyes at these stupid threads, as if to say that pollock was responsible for the bulls not finishing on top of the table.
FACT - if bulls had won, they would be the conference leaders.
OPINION - chiefs beat the blues only because of pollock
its about time some folks here learn the difference.

anyway, IMO this sums up the average saffa rugby fan

south african rugby fan national anthem
old mcdonald had a farm
E I E I O
and on that farm he had a saffa
E I E I O
with a ref ref here, and a ref ref there
her a ref, there a ref, everywhere a ref ref,
old mcdonlad had a farm
E I E I O

LMFAO, :oD


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 22:01:23

Puss-e, at least I have a boss. You wouldn't even get a kiwi to employ u. Besides, I have never made tea in my life. We have maori's here to do that ;-)


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 22:25:32

 I bet you wouldn't say that to anyone's face in NZ Kobus you racist [removed]...


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 23:41:48
Cleancut if you point out which part was derogatory would be glad to clarify. Nothing I said has not been written on this forum by SA posters regarding the AB's and to that effect the Boks. I understand this is a SA site and "you say, I say" but if you want derogatory and down right racist take a gander at Boklogics last post. Pretty brave behind that keyboard.


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 15, 2013, 23:55:18

Polyboy why not scramble your PI players. Addd some beans with it.

 

As for IRB bias. Yes the law makers did favor you I will proof it you

 

 


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 00:13:55

Hey listen you [removed]en wankers..You wana talk [removed] about making tea and kak like that we can all have a go. Dont act like I wouldn't say it to someones face. Im not rooi [removed]! Has nothing to do with being brave. You [removed]s wana talk [removed], we can all talk [removed]!


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 02:05:45
Spooony didn't quite get your scrambled poly and beans but............anyway would welcome the proof you have, if legit am big enough to admit I'm wrong. Boklogic why the hell would we want to talk [removed], except for the occasional diversion would rather talk rugby....on a rugby forum.....like this one. However I now see why you put out the "Maori" remark, the "sweep and suck" comment was provocative and though we are both kiwi's Poi e in all fairness it was a little heavy handed and unnecessary. The banter is expected and I know I have been drawn into verbal sparring that descended to new lows, so now try to stick to rugby...its what we're here for. So a rare apology to Boklogic, if the comment was knee jerk to provocation.


moolaa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 02:16:13

Time for me to enter the fray Logic you racist loon. What did we do to deserve an idiot like you in our country?

Back to the rugby....Mike you must be blind if you say that he didn't ruck his head because it's clear he did before having another go at his shoulder and then standing on his ribs! Pollock's (and any other refs) brief is to red card anyone who deliberately makes foot contact with the head...an easy decision in this case. As for the severity of the offence, what do you want? Grades of stomping between 1-10? Get real!

As has been stated above, you Saffas were only too happy to see Adam Thompson get red carded last year when all he did was place a foot on the bloke's head before thinking better of it, but now it's a different story when a red card doesn't suit your plans for the Bulls! Whinge, whinge, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Get over it. That applies to Kirwan as well. As for the yellow card....a definite slap down that probably saved a certain try so the Blues were lucky not to have a penalty try awarded against them. In short Pollock did a fine job and is to be congratulated for keeping a potentially explosive situation under control.

You all have a terrible inferiority complex over NZ rugby after getting your beans on a regular basis for the last 21 years and you just can't handle being 2nd best (and most of the time only 3rd or 4th).

If you don't like getting thrashed all the time then go support athletics where sometimes you even allow a real woman to run in the 800m!


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 03:46:16

Racist - A word you kiwi's love to throw at South African's but dont understand that racism in your country is equal if not worse than in SA.

At least we know why our people steal, rob and kill. If you hungry you must eat. Whats your guys excuse? This is the hand out capital of the world. Hell, it even gives Moolaa internet so he can make a [removed] of himself on here.

 

Mike is not blind. Craig Clarke himself confirmed he had not been rucked and it was harsh so Moolaa, please excuse us if we take a kiwi such as yourself telling us that Pollock was good with a pinch of salt!

 

You live in a bubble that you are number one. How's your golfers and test cricketers going for you? The pride of NZL women..The netball team..Best player and skipper is South African. NBL..Best players are foreigners. Your best golfer is a female that looks a little asian if you ask me!! Wonder if she is Korean ;-) Your rugby teams are injected with a bit of Island blood where they are weak..Hell, are kiwi's good at anything??


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 06:05:32

I bet you wouldn't say, 'I've never made tea before, we have Zulus to do that' in Africa you racist [removed], what makes you think your [removed]ed racist attitudes would be tolerated or even welcome in NZ.  I dare you to say that at the ECB's rugby club, but you wouldn't would you, because you think it's OK to be racist when you hide behind a thin vale of anonymity.

 

 

The only thing worse than a troll is a racist coward troll with a small [removed] inferiority complex


Ka Mate

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 07:23:58

Where do you live Boklogic cos Id like to come around and slap your ungrateful Yarpie face and then we can see how tough you really are.


CleanCut

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 07:45:02

Boklogic ... get a grip will ya!!!

 

You abscond to New Zealand for some reason or another and then have the audacity to disrespect their people like this.

 

What kind of person are you?

 

Hope some big Maori fella hears you doing this and [removed] slaps you back into place.

 

That should be a laugh.

 


blobbok

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 07:48:47

Logic, you're an embarrassment to South Africans, especially ones living in NZ .


clevermike

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 07:55:58
Now back to basics - the Blues player was nuts to do what he did - but the question remains ans that relates to the conduct of Pollock as referee.

Lers face facts - Pollock himself said he had a bad day at the office in both the Lions test and the game on Saturday. What I foresaw was a cooling off period for him - so he is out of the refereeing picture for the remainder of the Super series and unlikely to referee tests till much later. He will be allowed to rebuild his refereeing career - and will be phased back in to allow for just that.

I basically agree to what is apparent - namely an opportunity to get back his career on track. He would probably start in the process during the ITM and then see how he develops from there. The problem is that he had his "poor games at the office" so early and so publicly - so it will take a while to rectify the situation. In consolation [removed]erson also started badly and he got over the problem and was a reasonably good referee later on in his career.

I believe a good referee is someone who managed a game and immediately afterwards everybody forget about who refereed an actual game and judge the game on merit. That means a referee is to be firm and uncontroversial during the game and does not steal the spotlight from the players. That is the ultimate for every referee to strive to achieve.


CleanCut

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 08:07:02

Polly ... don't judge all saffas by this morons posts.

 

He doesn't represent us. Besides, looks like he's kiwi now.

 

My condolences.

 

I yank your chain to get a rise outta you.

 

Guess you've figured that out by now, right??

 

 


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 08:30:42

 CleanCut and Blobbok, cheers for your sentiments, it's easy to spot a regular poster from a troll on this board...neither of you are trolls.


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 09:02:44
@ Boklogic - GLen Jack-asson IS ALREADY A PROVEN CHEAT> He screwed the Tahs v Crusaders this year so bigtime it was unfathomable... So he is already tarred with the same brush as the reast of the cheats... No racism intended..............! haha

@Susscker - quite funny for a kiwi half wit.... probably gotten a bit smartere after living in Australia for so long...

@the rest of you lame kiwis - Fact is Reds have owned you this season and Wobs are on there way to doing so too - IF only you don't keep resorting to your cheating refs!!!!!

@Ihi - maaaaaaaaaaaate - RWC 2011 was no doubt rigged and yes Joubert did screw the Frogs in the GF BUT it was Bryce that accounted for Irish loss and ended up pitting Aus v Saffas in QF. all in all it was a complete and utter farce and as such kiwis haven't actually won a RWC outside of their miserable pissy rainy cheating country and probably never will due to their serious choking condition.....


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 09:07:19
Whats more - Bryce Lawrence AFTER BEEN proven as a notorious CHEAT.... has been rewarded with plum job coaching and training MORE of them to CHEAT....

Unbeliveable and I agree Boklogic the only thing left to do would be BAN the kiwi cheating refs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Spooony

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 09:28:41

To call someone a racist, even if the charge is intellectually dishonest, can be a useful tactic, either in successfully paralyzing or in casting enough suspicion as to curtails credibility. Such an approach is commonplace in everyday controversies.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 10:43:58

 Ka mate, we have been there before u dumb [removed]. When you get real about your threats, we will talk. Dont act like you would ever come. Firstly u would have to get gas money from Winz and I will give you everything I own if you slap me and "walk" away..Thats a fact! Dont act like a hero on a message board. Reply with banter but dont try get others to think u something to fear!

 

Blobok and clean cut, [removed] you wankers. Im not worried what you have to say. You both [removed]s! Glad im more of an embarrassment than the crime rate you dumb [removed]s!

 

Puss-e can say whatever he wants but when I reply (regarding his avatar meaning I would be his boss because he has a maori guy in his [removed]en avatar and he would be the one making me tea) then im racist. You [removed]s know [removed] all about me. 


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 11:21:39
I know you're a racist douche bag, what else is there to know.


Rooinek

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 12:48:32

"I will give you everything I own if you slap me and "walk" away..Thats a fact!"

 

Uh-oh, another internet hard-man alert!

 

Everything Small[removed] owns? Hmmm . . . besides the fact that Small[removed] is obviously too scared to say where he lives, I wonder if it's worth Ka Mate's while to go all the way to Small[removed]'s dusty little hick-town and give the angry little fellow a snotklap just for a few marbles, a barbie doll and a half eaten Mars Bar?


polyboy

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 13:01:21
@ cleancut yes figured out the wind up.......good banter all round though.


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 13:14:49

 Rooi[removed], I have told you all I live in Albany time and time again..I even told you the rugby club I played at so surely the kiwi's can piece that together..

 

I dont know if it is hate you have for me or infatuation..You seem to live for the moments when I post so u can yap at my heels. 

Shouldn't u be googling pics of naked little boys u gimp?


blobbok

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 13:33:37

Logic congratulations, you're clearly the most unpleasant poster that I have met on this forum but thank gawd your cringe worthy crap is receiving minimal support . Lonely boy .


KalaedFreddie

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 14:10:01

Lunchtime here on the site and I log in to have a quick look.  man am I surprised at this thread.  Why so much bad blood?  When my team loses I always think the referee must have something to do with it.  But, when the emotion subsides and I look at the game again I realise that the referee is just doing his job.  If you really, really want to you could probably fault each and every referee somewhere in a game.  The main thing we need to remember is that the referee is human and errors are part of what we do.  It may seem as if a referee is worse than the others, but remeber there is ALWAYS a review that takes place after each game.  There are sponsors and franchises who clearly have much more invested than us the fan-club.

 

For us as posters to sit and type derogatory nonsense and point fingers is clearly not an example of true sportsmanship.  Or is this what sport-support is all about?

 

Some other thread is all about one guy crying because of moderation and yet another thread is opened asking for moderation.  Clearly some posters have demonstrated why there should be some form of moderation or at the very least someone to repremand these guys.  None of you foulmothed people have done your countries or RUGBY any favour b airing your dirty laundry and proving your uncultured bad upbringing here on this site.

 

To the owners, may I apologise on behalf of my socalled white, educated brothers from South Africa.


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 14:22:23
To read the posts of Boklogic is to peer into the mind of a desperate, lonely man...go home to your cats and your crosswords Boklogic.


hakwa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 16, 2013, 14:32:14

 

 


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 00:48:40

Blobok, congrats mate.. Your posts are awesome as ever. Now just so I can remember who you are..Are you that South African chap living in NZL that has left your balls back in SA or did your wife always wear the pants?

ps..You dont have to suck up to these guys on here. They are not going to help you get ahead here big guy.

 

Hakwa, thanks for the pics..Why dont you grab one of Brad Thorn dumping John Smit after the whistle and a few others like that??


redsman

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 03:44:26
@ Boklogic Ill offer a piece of advice - don't get so worked up........................................ I have before and not worth it....

Furthermore just be patient the ABs will be on the end of reffing injustices very soon - and when they are.............................. just laugh and put the boot in like they are doing now. It will be highly amusing and It has to happen - you can only rig rugby for close to a decade and continue to get away with it.... I got a feeling its coming sooner than we all think -


moolaa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 04:52:39

Wow Pedsman! As incredible as it sounds, is it just possible you actually know something we don't?

Pray tell....enlighten us!


Ka Mate

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Posts: 34
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 07:35:11

@Boklogic aka Small[removed], no worries, I'm only about half an hour from Albany. We can do it this weekend if you like. The only question is where. Maybe you want to be close to your Mum so you have someone to run to after I slap you silly? You tell me.


Rooinek

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Posts: 1566
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 09:23:55

Waaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha! Let's get ready tooooo rrrrrruuuumble!

 

I'd love to see Small[removed]'s trembling, pale and frightened little face now that he's had his bluff called!

 

Come on Small[removed], Ka Mate's giving you the choice of time and place. Not sounding so tough now, are you Small[removed]? Yoohoooo . . . are you there, Small[removed]?

 

LMAO!


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 09:39:27

 Bok logic Redsman and all the others who think kiwi refs are the pits well done for pointing out how bad kiwi refs are. As more people protest there is a greater chance of action being taken. Ban all kiwi refs asseblief!

Now could all the kiwi bird brains and that well known  kiwi wannabee rooiotwit pleaee acknowledge that this unfortunate step is necessary for rugby to clean up its act and remain the popular game it is.

As for Kate Mate  I suggest he stays at home with his teddy bear as Bok Logic will only need to look at him before he bursts into tears. Bwahahahahhahahahaha 

Rooitwit could you please lift your sites above waist high - thanks.

Anyhow oaks lets not kill eachother just yet there is far too much to argue about and think of all we would miss! How immature some are.


hakwa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 09:44:53

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Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 09:58:38

 Good morning to Hakwa how are you doing.

May I suggest that you put in some text to support your theories as right now I am not sure what point you are making.

I trust you are not one of the kiwis here resisting the call  for kiwi refs to be banned in order to clean up the game?


hakwa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 10:09:56

Beeno NZ refs are the best refs in the World although I must admit without bias that Joubert is heads and shoulders above everyone else at the moment! Alot of Wallabies, French, Boks, Irish don't even know the rules (as evidenced by above videos) therefore adding more burden to Sir McCaw's broad shoulders to help the refs rightly interpret the laws of the game!

 

 


hakwa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 10:13:02

 
it's not as easy as you think John but I think that's the way to the airport!


allblacknblue

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 18:43:04

Lads, lads! Come now! The solution is simple, so simple in fact you've done it before! Just write the guy a whole bunch of death threats, make him never want to step foot in SA again and he'll get sacked! Say la vee (or something like that).

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SC is this your dad?

Cause I must say the resemblance is remarkable! Now be honest SC..... Do you really want to grow up to be just like your dad? Cause son... I gotta tell ya, it's a slippery slope and I suggest you find better role models in your upbringing...... and since your already in NZ may I suggest Sir Ritchie Mcaw, a fine man with a big ticker and law abiding citizen/ruganourt!

 


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 17, 2013, 21:46:25

No problem Ka Mate. Always keen to meet new people.

 

I have a pretty full weekend as I am playing in a two day tournament about 50 mins north of Albany. I need to be at the course to register at 7.45am latest so will be on the road by 6.45am. Should we say 6.30am at the Zed (formerly Shell) petrol station in old Albany village? You cant miss it. There is only one!

 

So excited to make a new friend. Its been pretty cold these last few mornings so I look forward to a hot slap to bring some warmth to my life. Have a good hearty steak breakfast before you come though. Who knows when you will be able to disgard the straw and eat solids again!

 

See you soon brother. We gona be BFF's!!

 

Sorry Rooinek, had pub quiz last night and stayed out to watch the State of Origin so only saw this message now. Unlike you buddy, I will back my mouth up anyday..I have never just been a talker. Seems you have 50+ years experience.


Beeno1

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 18, 2013, 11:31:14

Hakwa my good friend  thanks for the picture of mcaaaws madam. Have to be honest with you she doesnt look high class to me. mcaaaw must be as desparate as I thought. No wonder ou abnob feels such an afinty to mcaaaaw! bwahahahhahahahahahaha

Boklogic go easy on kate mate - we dont wont him out of action on the board!


hakwa

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 18, 2013, 12:38:05

 ok Beeno, no problem

 


Ka Mate

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 12:17:08

I know the place but thats a bit early for me, Small[removed], I might still be rooting your mum at that time of the morning.

 

Let's make it 9am. Its not like you're gonna be playing golf or rugby or anything else after I give you a [removed]slap. You'll be running around shouting 'Eureka! I have seen the light!' and picking your teeth off the floor.

 

So, 9am tomorrow at the Zed petrol station in old Albany? See you there. Don't chicken out now, Small[removed].


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 12:33:58

Yipee!   It's on like donkey kong.  Well, I think we all know Small[removed] will drop his nuts and manufacture some pitiful excuse for his absence but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt doubt until proven otherwise.  Oh well, l'll be on the forum at 10am tomorrow for Ka Mate's post mortem of the mornings events. Kia Kaha bro. I would wish you luck but.…… why bother.  He ain't gonna show up.  


CleanCut

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 12:36:48

 

Take a few pics will ya ... and come post it on here.

 

Should be good for a laugh!!!!


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 12:51:06

 My guess is Small[removed] isn't half the man his mother is...


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:03:12

 ah, the old 11th hour response. As i said, i have a deadline to meet so i am gona need that slap on time. Just remember, you are the one thats filthy with me and u threatening the hiding here so surely you should be willing to come dish it out?

dont change the time when you know i have to be somewhere. my excuse is valid..u just say its too early. pretend its benefit day and u wana be first in line.

u reply when u think im sleeping. you know you are not gona pitch. why dont you go ask your mother for some of that p she smokes and stay awake all night? i dont have time for games,,u gona be there at 6.30 or not?

it will be fun. thats my promise to you!


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:04:45

poi e can bring the coffee

 


CleanCut

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:18:12

Oh come now, dip[removed]!!

 

Stop being so difficult!!!

 

He just wants to shove your foot up your ass and slap your gums around a bit!!!

 

No biggie!!!

 

He's Maori ... so now you have the opportunity to say to him what you've always wanted to. Eyeball to eyeball!!!

 

NO!!!!!! ... I do not mean "PUHLEEEASE SIR ... DON'T HURT ME"

 

Nor ... "WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFEE, SIR .... JUST DON'T HURT ME, YOUR HIGHNESS, YOUR ROYAL KINGNESS ...  !!!!!

 

Oh and dont forget to smile for the camera!!!

 

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

 


Boklogic

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:27:43

ay i dont have time for this [removed].. im going to bed.. cheers sweethearts...ps clean [removed] u way to good at this apologising [removed]..were u bullied at school by any chance. normally i sympathize with an abused kid but in your case, you should have just stopped being a little [removed] tard. 

6.30am..be there or shut your mouth..im logging off!


Buzz

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:35:03

Sorry but any man and I mean real man, would not resort to using the concept or idea of kiddy fiddling to get his point across. Surely thats a line that should never be crossed. Im utterly disgusted to read that kind of stuff.

abused children , [removed]ual abuse of children is really an awful thing to use as a form of Banter / debate/ argument.

 


carpetmuncher

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Posts: 1396
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 13:47:53

the NZ conjob of fixed games via refs and administration will continue as long as people llike paddy o briend and co are in charge at the IRB.

 

they are all bent and it wont stop unless we purge them all from the system


Ka Mate

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 14:08:30

Just a quick midnight check-in to see if Small[removed] replied.

 

Small[removed], It's the Z on Dairy Flat Highway, right? ll be there 6h30. I'll be in a white Hyundai ix35. Dont chicken out!


carpetmuncher

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 14:16:04

Hyundai ??? mate i reckon you can do better than that hey ???

 

Dont you kiwi's get some proper cars like audi and VW down there ?


Buzz

Status: Baby Bok
Posts: 175
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 14:19:44

Hyundai sales have grown almost 150% in recent years, so the craze has hit New Zealand as well. Cant knock those kind of figures Carpetmuncher.


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 14:29:57

 Bro, what are you talking about? No NZers are in charge at the IRB. The current IRB chairman is a Frenchman (Bernard Lappaset) and the Vice Chairman is South Africa's Oregan Hoskins.   As for Paddy O'Brien, he was replaced last year as Referees Manager by another Frenchman Joël Jutge.  I know this doesn't quite fit into the favoured "conspiracy" narrative but I'm confident the fringe fanboy brigade will somehow pervert these facts to support their paranoid agenda.   

 


carpetmuncher

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 14:42:59

nukefreekiwi..........mate just the mere sight of you user handle sends a nostalgic chill down the spine...all the hordes of senseless panters and insults over the years.

 

missed your rather acute sense of reality...glad to see the so called "broederbond" refs society has not nicked you from moms basement hey....talking about fringe theories your so called theorie on earlier springbok glory is not just fringe but borders on insane much the tin foiled hat wearing hippies that reckon there is some global NWO trying to take you rights and enslave you.


nukefreekiwi

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 15:09:59

Hehe,no shame in admiting how much you missed Nukie there bru.  Im just glad to see the years of springbok mediority haven't dulled your acerbic wit and caustic humour.  So, when are visiting hours at Valkenberg?  I must remember to visit next time I'm in the Cape.  Ward 20 innit? Are they letting you use real cutlery yet or are you still making do with the plastic knives. Please, try not  to cheek your meds.  You know how you get when you miss a dose. Anyways, good to hear from ya.  Long may the banter continue.  


poi-e

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RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 19, 2013, 20:40:43

This is what happens when your mouth writes cheques your [removed] can't cash [removed]Logic...take your broom.


Sharkbok

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Posts: 3580
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 20, 2013, 02:24:12

 Boklogic, do not waste time with this arse.

 

It sonds like he is an agresive arseghole


Boklogic

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Posts: 1950
RE: Rugby no longer what it was. Ban kiwi refs!
July 20, 2013, 06:56:48

 Hyundai i35?? Sorry Ka Mate. I must apologise. All this time I thought you were a man but surely not in an i35??

 

As per till receipt, I was there at 6.37am, buying my usual up and go liquid breakfast and powerade.

No sign of any one else in the garage. 1 Indian man working the till. Name badge read Pratheen and I asked him, sorry mate, have you seen any guy/s in a white Hyundai i35 hanging around here this morning. His reply, no sorry. Its been very quiet this morning.

 

Talkers...sigh..

Oh and Poi-e, great one liner regarding my mom and being more of a man. Very original. Did you make that up on your own?? Stick to making coffees boet.

 

You guys know why Ka Mate wouldn't beat me..Its because I am not his wife. Only wives getting beaten in this place.


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