RE: Mandela's condition could impact on Super rugby
June 29, 2013, 06:02:24
Call me whatever the [removed] you want at least I am honeest and do not pretend with stupid ass kissing posts. You have no backbone. I can see why you ran. Good stay there.
And O I am colored myself live in a place called Vahalla Park in Cape Flats. Google it up. They say perception is the mother of all F ups.
You must really understand what happened in SA. And I am not talking about the [removed] the media showed to the international community. They showed only what they wanted to show to turn the Afrikaner in to the public enemy no 1 in the worlds eyes and are still being slapped with being racist and oppressors etc etc.
The animosity between the Xhosas and the Zulus goes back hundreds of years. The Zulu tyrant, Shaka, at the time was committing genocide against other tribes. Wiping out an estimated 2 million people in what is now known as the Defecane (great scattering). The Swazis and the Ndebeles fled back north in the direction of central Africa where they migrated from. The Sotho?s fled into the mountains of what is today, Lesotho. The rest of the smaller tribes huddled together trying to find strength in coalescing.
Shaka?s terror was so great that Mzilikazi, the chief of the Matabeles fled back north...in the direction where Zimbabwe is today.
In between this ruckus the Europeans arrived. Shaka was killed by his half brother Dingaan and he was in power and the new king. So he went out and murdered other tribes, europeans and whoever they ran into.
Europeans thought back and with the help of other tribes manage to defeat the Zulu's. Did they kick em off their land? Oh wait owning property is a european concept.
But still they moved on and went and try to settle on a area where no tribe set foot on or would have tried to set foot on it cause it hot, dry and veldt where nothing basically would grow. The african tribes were scattered in the places where the best rainfall and land were. Europenas did not go and take anything. They tried to buy some land and were murdered. So they defended themselves and moved on to land where no one wanted to live. The largest part of South Africa is called the Karoo. It is a semi dessert comparable to Arizona or Nevada in the USA. The Europeans went and set up camp on it and and turned it into one of the worlds best meat producers. Just go and have a look of SA rainfall and compare it to the homelands. You will note its most fertile ground in the whole country.
But then Gold was discovered in that [removed]hole piece of land. The British eyes lid up and in the end they got hold of the minerals with the Scorched Earth Policy” whixh was burning their farms to the ground, killing their livestock and interning their women and children in horrific concentration camps where 27,000 women and children died...there was no “Bailout” or “Marshal Plan” to rebuild South Africa.
Then take into account that the mines were under British control. So here you sit with your farms destroyed. Lost 27000 woman and children plus your riches is under forreign control. Then add South Africa has nine official Black languages, with 23 sub categories and innumerable dialects plus you sit with hundreds of tribes who have just met civilization and most of them trying to kill of the other. How do you put them all into one country and please everyone?
Well the Briitish kicked off procedings. The Selbourne memorandum said that there were more differences between the people of Ireland or Canada than there were between the Boers and the British of South Africa. Basically, the idea before the Unification of South Africa in 1910 was to unite the two white tribes and separate them from the blacks.
Lionel Curtis and Patrick Duncan confided in each other, “The fact is that we have all been moving steadily from the Cape idea of mixing up white, brown and black and developing the different grades of colour strictly on the lines of European civilisation, to the very opposite conception of encouraging as far as possible the black man to separate from the white and to develop a civilisation, as he is beginning to do in Basutoland, on his own lines.” (Patrick Duncan Papers BC294C23.3.8, University of Cape Town, M[removed]cripts and Archives, Curtis to Duncan, 26 Nov 1907).
Also there was a agreement that each of the tribes were going to get their own homelands. Where they would be independant countries. The homelands were as follows
Ciskei – Xhosa
Venda – Venda
Bophuthatswana – Tswana
Gazankulu – Tsonga/Shangaan
KaNgwane – Swazi
KwaNdebele – Ndebele
KwaZulu – Zulu
Lebowa – Pedi (Northern Sotho)
QwaQwa – Sotho
Note how some tribes got TWO or even THREE countries of their own. The Xhosas got both Ciskei and Transkei. The Tswanas who have their own country called Botswana, also got Bophuthatswana
So you see it wan't racial segregration but in fact seperated by culutures who was deem not to be iincompatiible with each other.
When daimonds was discovered in Botswana the Britsh suddenly took Botswana under its potection. But more on that a bit later
So you can see the segregation started of in 1907 in fact and not 1949. Furthermore the mines in British control and Gen Smuts being Brittians guy doing it their way while Smuts made the Boers believe (he founded the RAF).
In fact the Afrikaners were being setup. In the 1920's white mineworkers went on strike and Smuts use then airforce to bomb the [removed] out of them. They then opened the mines for all races. Doing this meant Rhodes and Oppenheimer were guarenteed cheap labour for the next 70 years. They just must make sure that they keep the fires burning. between both sides.
Now there was no border controll between the homelands and South Africa. In fact people could come from anyhwere in Africa and just walk into a mine job cause they are the ones that is easily exploited and will work for peanuts.
So between 1915 and 1936 the African population grew from 4 million to 36 million. 32 Million in that short space of time? You can look around Africans do not have 20 children per household. That number was mainly thanks to no border control.
Also SA have helped the homelands by inviting investors to start businesses there where employment was created. Casino's were build there and all types of business and as soon as they were self relient SA gave them independance. They voted for their own leaders. Had their own country but their citizens lost their SA citizenship.
So as things went on and De Beers was making billlions building a mining monopoly as well as a daimond cartell and a place which was intended for hostels of mineworkers turned into one of the biggest townships. SA governement tried to place systems to establish who is from where by introducing passes and who is a citzen. (ID BOOK called today).
But again the mining bosses got clever. Get leaders in the african communtiy to control the african communties and to make sure that they stir up trouble and the SA goverment place stricter laws in place. Less rights mean cheap labour. So the leaders they educated was called into action with the burning of the passes. Imagine USA had not border control for 20 years. How would USA make up be?
Now when you look at SA during certain periods ignore media reports that was shown but look what was happening in the world that same time.
Around the 50's the Cold War broke out. USA, Australia and others banned all parties affiliated to any communist parties and had the right to cease their property and assets. SA followed suite and banned any party affiliated to communist parties or activities. THe ANC off course was back by Russia and others from the Eastern block. So they were not banned cause they were a black party but because they were affiliated with COMMUNIST.
Verwoerd almost destroyed the SACP and the ANC. Now Russia's interest was daimonds. As they had to sell under the De Beers cartell and if they went outside it De Beers who at the time had enough daimonds to flood the markett with it and produce a country who was struggling financly basically to nothing. So the race began for controll of the daimonds in Africa. De Beers had SA and Botswana ("thanks to it being under British Protection"). Communists took Angola and wanted to grab Namibia as well.
The ANC then started the no education before liberation campaign. If you want to controll the masses the best is to keep them uneducated so they cannot see through you. Like Buthelezi did. He saw right through them. Steve Biko went to a university and was educated there. SA goverment build schools universities and education was offered for free. It wasn't lesser education. It might have seemed that way but European kids had a headstart and you could not use the same level for tribes who were speaking languages that wasn't written down and had only words for common used words in everyday life. Like windows, knife etc etc.
A lot of words from african languages were taken from English and [removed]. In 1976 the Soweto riot were started due to part of education being in either [removed] or english. Not to opress but because there were no word to explain Einstein theory of relativity in Xhosa or Zulu or any other language. THose words were not invented yet in those languages. So how are you going to educate them? In languages that have those words that was English or [removed].
Have you ever wonder why police were patrolling inside townships trying to keep peace rather than just blocking it off and let the people kill each other? Well because black and black murders voilence made up most of the numbers of the people killed in apartheid. Any person who did agree with the ANC or supported them were tortured and killed. Google necklace murders. Mandela's wife was a expert in it.
ANC and IFP clashed and the ANC do what they been doing since the 70's was killing of the opposition by the masses. Bophuthatswana have the biggest Platinum reserves in the world. They did not want to intregrate with SA in 94 so they ANC do a thing they designed called mass action. Sent in guys and torched the place killing opposition supporters. The leader of it were saved by a bunch of right wingers from getting slaughtered. It was intergrated by force and thus putting the platinum riches back under the mine giants controll.
ANC leaders never went to protests where people were killed. Why? Cause they set it up by sending in woman and children with a few [removed] stirrers in the middle where the police will open fire when they were threathen. Sharpeville. The media failed to mention the 6 policeman who were black, white and from indian decent who where brutaly murdered a week before. They were beaten to death and cut to pieces. Basically they were lured into a what they were thinking was a drunkedn brawl. They were ambushed chased down and hacked to death beyond recognition.
Then after that they arrange hundreds of protestors to march down at the Police station. The organizer of it was sitting miles away in a tavern having a beer while he sent in his own supporters with the knowledge they will be mowed down. You can imagine why the police fired. It was for the struggle? Really? Sending in innocent people who you purpossely kept uneducated to die to forward your own enrichment schemes are not idols or heroes. They are cowards.
After 1995 the ANC took 20 percent of De Beers. The money went into their own pockets while the people they said they thought for live in even harser conditions than they did in apartheid. More people died in police detention in 2 years then the combined total of ppeople who died in detention in Apartheid.
SA were starting from 1950 onwards startin to relax the apartheid laws. Only laws that were stepped up where laws against terrorism which nowhere stated skin color. It stated person and no matter the color who go out and bomb churches, schools and innocent people or suspected of it can be held in detention without being charged for a long period, Incidently the US got that exact same law today! Why it was protecting its citizens. Which includes all colors. If they did not stop the people from gettin educated Apartheid would have been over by 1987 even earlier with huge amounts of employment rates and businessmen of all colors.
Also ask yourself the question why would the UN bang on SA when 200 000 to 300 000 people got murdered in Rwanda, Idi Amin deported thousands of indians out of Uganda?
South Afirca richest country in the world when one considers the mineral wealth beneath its soil. Who gives a [removed] when 4 million Rwanda's get muedered in retaliation to the 200 000 that murdered? Oh wait does Rwanda have rich minerals? No so [removed] them. No money there.
South Africa possesses 93% of the world?s Manganese, 83% of the Platinum, 61% of the world?s Vanadium, 63% of the Gold, 29% of all the diamonds, amongst many others
He did not go sit 27 years in prison for the struggle. He planted bombs and killed people. No hero in my books. Same as branding Barend Strydom aka the Witwolf as hero, Murderer as well. Would never respect them no matter how many World Cups or baby's he kissed. I still have my common principles and respect for a murderer I will never have.
Oh on Botswana. When it got independance. It had 12 km of paved road and 20 percent of its people unemployed. They were left with nothing. They went to the "Boer" and asked for help. They got it and look at Botswana now. One of the fastest growing economies in the world. On a dust bowl they created farms to provide food. They look after their farmers like hospital babies. And most are white farmers.
Bush war with Cubans and Angolans who used guerrilla warfare. Same tactic that kicked the French and US out of Vietnam. Here we sent in soldiers of all colors to help other black to kick out foreign invaders. And we did not go Napalm villages or raped woman to do it. We manage to win a guerilla warfare by educating the soldiers how to react with locals and how to treat them with dignity and respect. Tje locals turned on the guerilla fighters and suddenly they had nowhere to hide.
And SA did it with sanctions against them. Fuel embargo? No problem. Turn coal into fuel SASOL created.
Arms embargo? No problem. Build our own KRYGKOR was born. Also go check the date when SA pulled out of the commonwealth and the date the ANC took up arms. Dates are very close to each other.
It seems the only crime that South Africans were guilty of was to allow foreigners into their country to earn an income they can live off. The idea of every nationality 'each to his own' has failed
Why are there not Germans in the UK parliament ?
Why are there not Mexicans in the US parliament ?
Why are there not Palistinians in the Israeli parliament ?
Then why are there people of other nationalities in my coutry's parliament ?