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sasuke uchiha

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NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 05, 2013, 18:12:55

exciting finals ahead with the NZ sevens and Blitsboks playing each other in scotlands cup final.

will the boys in green win and help leviate the pain and avenge the well deserved losses that two SA spXV heavyweights have suffered by NZs middle dogs???

or will the NZ 7s put the icing on the cake to their 11th world sevens title and top notch wins over the stormers, sharks, rebels and brumbies???

good luck to both teams, will update during the game for all the brus who might be interested, :o)


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 18:16:29

after watching the blitzboks beat england in the smeis and NZ beat wales, i have to say the blitzers looked to be the more energetic of the two, while the kiwis looked very fatigued, o_O

hope this isnt a sign of things to come, i remeber the tokyo 7s where SA literally blitzed NZ in the finals.

france have just won the sheild final after beating spain.


KalaedFreddie

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May 05, 2013, 19:19:53

 A few good games and some very good individual skills - how's this Zack Test from USA - not bad?

 

SA vs NZ - may the best team win and the ref have a quiet game..


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:43:30

uh-oh, i just found out that the referees 2nd cousins postmans next door negihbours uncles dog was once owned by a NZer.
according to some folks on this forum, that means NZ will win, o_O


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:45:31

a saffa ref for a saffa vs NZ game, o_O


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:47:00

seabelo try after a nice cut back in from the wing, :o(

come on boys lets bounce back, :o)


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:48:44

NZ respond immediately with a try to raikabula after baker inside pass to stowers who cuts in some weak defence.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:50:39

intercept for the kiwis but some nice scrambling defence from the boks to recover, thats some mad gas.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:53:08

referee calls forward pass which is a bit dodgy. havent seen the replay yet though.

dipenaar taken of for a sub.

boks muck up the scrum and knock it on.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:54:21

try to NZ from baker after a brilliant kick from cama inside when boks were scrambling with their defence.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 19:57:41

halftime, 14-7 NZ lead.

 

very close game though, still anyones game, no surprises but timosi cama seems to be the key for the NZers.

SA not helped with two injury forced subs.

good game so far, :o)


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:01:32

stowers is yellow carded.

steven hunt scores a try on the wing after boks spread it out wide where NZ were a man short.

14 all.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:02:41

offload from mickelson to baker who kicks ahead. he had the gas but ball went out.
3:30sec left.
 


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:04:12

cama is subbed and hes not liking it, LMAO. :oP

get off u clown, team first.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:06:04

try to blitz boks after a stupid kick fro baker inside his own goal. good pressure from the boks.

21-14 SA lead.


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:08:12

try to hendricks after good sustained pressure from the boks.

all but official is this SA victory with a 28-14 lead and 2 and half mins left, :o(
 


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:09:40

try to NZ with 30secs left,,,,,,could it be the comeback??? o_O

 


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 20:11:36

messy scramble at the kick off, SA kick the ball out.

Blitzboks win 28-21.

congrats blitzboks, great finals match, :o)


Beeno1

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May 05, 2013, 20:21:24

 saSUE one has to ask this after three consecutive wins by the Blitzbokke over the kiwis. Are the kiwis becoming the blitzbokke bunnies. Hahahahahahhaha

Wonder what ou abnob thinks. 

True should get in Rhule and Seargal Pietersen. Cecil Afrika is also an excellent sevens player. That black youngster Senekal, or whatever his name is, is the fastest guy around. Size not so important here.

 


Beeno1

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May 05, 2013, 20:31:10

 Ex Keo:

South Africa’s Sevens Boks are the champions of Glasgow but New Zealand’s All Blacks are the champions of the world.

The Boks beat New Zealand 28-21 for a third World Series Tournament win of the year but the Kiwis, courtesy of their consistency all season, were crowned World Series Champions for the 11th time in 14 seasons.

New Zealand has won just one tournament this year but invariably they played in the final or semi-final whereas South Africa’s inconsistency in the early part of the Series ensured they were never in contention for the main season prize.

Paul Treu’s side were outstanding in Glasgow, as they were in Tokyo. They have now backed up in successive tournaments. They also hammered New Zealand to win the Las Vegas Sevens.

They also won in Glasgow without two of their best players in Cecil Africa and Branco du Preez.

Looks like nz are not very worthy champs - only one tournament win -Blitzbokke have three!

Blitzbokke on the rise! Writing on the wall stuff?


sasuke uchiha

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May 05, 2013, 23:46:14

@beeno1 aka storminged,

blitzbok on the rise??? absolutely, theyve been on the rise since 2008/2009 when they won their first and only world series.
in that series, Blitsboks faced fiji in two finlas and lost them both, so u are of the opinon that Blitzboks and their one and only title were not deserved victors??? good to know, :o)

blitzboks were without two of thier best players, but so were NZ and they had another two frontline players missing too. not surprised that keo didnt mention that, its why no one tkaes them seriously except for cocaine snorters

its a shame NZ didnt beat the blitzboks in any of the finals matches, but we did beat the Blitzboks in the semis in front of their homecrowd when NZ won the SA series, so that lightens the mood a little, lolz, :oP

SA need to realise though that u may have won the battle, but u lost the war, hence NZs 11 titles from 14 tournaments and SA 1 title from 14 tournaments.


congrats NZ for another deserved world title and if we make the semis in the lodon 7s, NZ becomes the only team in the world to have played in all the semis, :o)


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 00:01:17

Hasbeeno, we have a problem in NZ. Where do we fit the World 7s Trophy in our cabinet?

It may just fit between the World & Bledisloe Cups which means that inconsequential trophy (can't remember it's name) that we play the Boks for will have to be pushed back a bit!


Boklogic

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May 06, 2013, 01:21:19

Moolaa, why dont you put the trophy right next to the shrine you have of Bryce Lawrence. Afterall, without him, you would not have the World Cup trophy. The way SA were playing, you were never going to win that world cup. Hell, you should have a shrine of Craig Joubert too because he tried his best to make sure NZL beat the French. Haha such a dominant display by the French but some ridiculously low penalty count with players like McCaw on the field. Haha what a farce that world cup was. Trust NZL to host the most farcical WC ever. Sail through the pool stages (easiest by a long way) and then make sure the most bent son of a slut is in charge of the Aussie Bok game so their "easier" ride continues!!

 

The Nelson Mandela cup means nothing to you, but then again, you mean nothing to rugby. To the AB team and coaching staff that means everything!


moolaa

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May 06, 2013, 05:27:18

Oops, struck a nerve there Logic!

Talking of farces, how about the late (and not great) Louis Luyt presenting Derek Bevan the Welsh referee with a gold watch after the 1995 World Cup Semi for disallowing Benazzi's certain last minute try against the Boks which would've eliminated them and therefore negated the need to poison the ABs for the Final?

That's a farce!

Oh and I forgot to mention the Rugby Championship Trophy before....where oh where are we going to store that?

By the way Logic, the Nelson Mandela Trophy is played between the Boks and Wallabies.......Logic once again proving himself  a mastermind of all things rugby...NOT!


Boklogic

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May 06, 2013, 06:46:11

Ah sorry Moolaa, Freedom cup. Shows how much I care about that trophy. Means something to the players, not me.

 

Louis Luyt presented the watch to Derek Bevan AFTER the game, not before. Its not like he said, hey, make sure we win. Here is a gold watch for you to make sure that happens. He presented it at a dinner after the game had been played. Needless to say, Bevan did not accept and walked out of the room. If it had been something they had spoken about, surely Bevan would have said do not present it to me in public. Shows how innocent Louis Luyt was in his gesture that he did it on stage in front of many onlookers. Back then, he would not have thought anything of it. Only in the modern professional era would a coach think about that. Now why oh why I ask with tears in my eyes, would he do something like that in such an open environment if there was a motive behind it and would it not have been done pre game? Would he not have done it under covers and would Bevan do it for a watch?? Get real.

 

What was done undercovers though was Bryce Lawrence but I still believe the truth will come out one day. Bryce was quick to lose his job as a backlash from Kiwi's to get him out of the spot light before the weak son of a bitch cracks and confesses and brings NZL rugby into further disrepute! Thats what happened there. Get him of the world stage, let him fade into the background before he cracks under pressure, just like the AB's of 1995 and 1999, and 2003 and 2007 ;-) Bryce was your guinea pig to make sure you guys didnt crack again at the hands of the Boks but it almost backfired as the French smashed you up and old Joubert had a tough time trying to keep his whistle in his pocket when ou McCaw was frantically digging around the rucks to save his team.

Joubert must have been like, " Fuck sakes Richie. I am doing everything possible here but this is getting obvious now. Start fucken playing rugby because there is only 1 team on this field at the moment!! Is this how you repay Bryce? You ruin his career then choke in the final to a team you walked over in pool play?"

Richie, "There is nothing we can do Craig! Our wee forwards are blowing hard. We cant stop this French flair and passion! They are all over us! Just keep your whistle in your pocket. If we lose yet another WC, I will kill myself! I cant handle the questions that come after it. Not again. Please Craig. PLEASE!!"


KalaedFreddie

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 08:29:28

 Great game!  If the AB-&s need someone to blame, look no further than Stowers - that was plain stupid to do what he did right infront of the posts.  Two trangressions - did not heed the 10 meter rule and he played the ball while lying on his side/back.  The subbing of the playmaker Cama may also have been a bit premature.  But, hey, I am not complaining the Bokke won this one but the games between these two teams is mostly like flipping a coin...any one can win.


Beeno1

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May 06, 2013, 09:00:17

Hhahahahahahaha excellent post Bok Logc. The kiwis and  mooooo   la have been scholled but I warn you their capacity t olearn is very limited!!

I fully agree craig was bad in that final and haneded to cup to the abs. A great blot on our refs I have to say. French were by some way the superior side and the French were as we also know pretty average. Quite rightl ydid the french players complain tha tthe ref didnt want them to in the game itwas sooooo obvious.

If you have any doubts watch this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIuXrwPCcc&feature=youtu.be

saSUE you have lost the last three matches played against the Blitzbokke and all were finals. At what point in time does this become a problem? It would seem to me the Blitzbokke have the wood on you guys?

Wouldnt it be nice if this ref issue would go away and kiwis suddenly would become honest fair go mate types? Wishful thinking alas!

 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 11:28:16

@beeno1 aka storminged,

"saSUE you have lost the last three matches played against the Blitzbokke and all were finals. At what point in time does this become a problem? It would seem to me the Blitzbokke have the wood on you guys?"

did u even watch the series???

regardless, the world sevens is a different kettle of fish, while its alway nice to win the tournaments, the No1 goal is to win the series, something that NZ did quite easily with consistent top 3 standings in every single tournament this sereis, a feat that is currently unheard of.
but ur right, the Blitzboks do have the wood on the NZ 7s team at the moment and while im happy to be the world champions again, we need to make a statement in the london 7s and win it, especially if we face the blitzboks. i dont want them to start getting a psychological edge on us, they are a good enough team already.
we also need to consider the olympics which dosent care how well u preform throughout the year, only how well u preform in rio, so a top 3 finish would be an failure as gold is the one and only result, so time for the kiwis to start winning some tournaments, hopefully starting with the final one of the year the london 7s.


clevermike

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 11:43:44

Sasue

I commented elsewhere about theissue of the Sevens series.   I am of the opinion that the point sttructure of the series favours consistency of the team throughout the series - not necessarily tournament wins.   Provided a team is constantly in the top four in each tournament - they can be tops in the series as a whole.   The opposing team can win half of the tournaments and if they do badly in 2 -they will not be the series champion.

That is what happened in this case.   Despite just one wictory in seven tournaments this year - the All Blacks is way out on top of the log.   This is largely the rsult of yo-yo performances by the other teams in the competition.  Although winning three out of seven tournaments - the Blitzbokke fell off the bus in the Dubhai and  Hong Kong tournaments and that put pay to their chances of really been competitive on the final log.

With a view to the WC in June and in the longer run - the Olympics in 2016 - I believe the All Blacks should do what they did in the past on a regular basis - that is to be regular tournament winners as well.   At this stage they are bridesmaids - never the bride.   They can have one consolation - it only happened once before - namely that the same team that won the Glasgow (preiously the Edinbourgh)  tournament win the London tournament a week later.  That leaves the door open for the All Blacks to win this one - but it is a very small opening at that.

Hope they do well.     


allblacknblue

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 16:36:58

Yes I agree everything should be done to suit those whinging saffa's. You lads are worse than the poms and aussies, hang your heads, cause I would if i was you lot.


Boklogic

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May 06, 2013, 21:56:53

Allblacknblue, forgive me on this but its hard to take u blokes seriously in your whinging comments about Saffas when you still pin 95' WC on the mysterious Suzie and a gold watch, 2007 on a ref when your boys just couldnt get the job done and everything else inbetween. You guys are also the proud owners of Bryce Lawrence and Glen Jackson so please forgive us when we take you lot with a pinch of salt.

 

If there should be any head hanging, it should be coming out of NZL.


Papamoa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 06, 2013, 22:18:22

 Book logic you make me laugh if nothing else. Keep it up, have to love your commitment and passion. 


moolaa

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May 07, 2013, 00:30:03

Logic, I think the word "naive" was invented for plonkers like you.

Louis Luyt innocent? He deliberately went out of his way to publicly present the watch to Bevan to stick it up the ABs and the world rugby hierarchy in general! Why would he give him the watch PRIOR to the match when the service had yet to be rendered??

 To make matters worse he then attempted to belittle the 1987 & 1991 World Cups by stating the Boks would've won those tournaments if they'd been allowed to compete. I notice he didn't come forward in 1999, 2003 and 2011 to explain why the Boks didn't win those as well but guess he was probably dribbling custard by that stage anyway.

Thanks for the insight into the conversation between Richie and Craig by the way. You do have some great sources.

Oh and tell Hasbeeno I haven't been "scholled" at all and it's about time he went back to "scholl" (which I believe was Broederbond Elementary) to study English.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 02:00:09

Ha ha so what you saying Moolaa is that the AB's knew they would not beat the Boks. Remember, if what you say is true (and its not), that happened in the semi-final. We played the French, not AB's! Its not like he blew the AB's out of the match. You are admitting that the AB's never stood a chance against SA?? Probably about right.

 

If you believe that Luyt did that in the way you say then you are more naive than I thought. No guy in their right mind would do that. Why would Luyt subject himself to that? Use your head.

This is just a deflection from you for the confirmed cheat Bryce Lawrence. Use your investigative skills and get to the bottom of that one!!


moolaa

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May 07, 2013, 02:14:53

Luyt did it cos he was a rich arrogant ponce and he knew he would get away with it! There was no way the IRB was going to create a stink after SA's "fairytale" win and upstage Nelson Mandela's time in the limelight and undermine the newly united SA, racial harmony etc etc.

Bevan ruled out the try to keep the Boks IN the Cup, not to penalise the ABs you idiot!

And I think we've proved on multiple occasions that we can indeed beat the Boks......witness again our trophy cabinet.

I believe your cabinet is in the care of one Ms Hubbard at present and she reckons she's got the job for life!


clevermike

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May 07, 2013, 05:49:24

moolaa

I am sorry you went on to make that kind of remark about Dr Luyt - who recently passed away.   I know him well and was on friendly terms with him - and can assure you that he was anything but a ponch.   In any event as far as I am aware  that watch was a gift after the game was played - not before the game - so I think you are talking crap in this case.

I admire the All Blacks for their achievements on the rugby field and give them credit where credit is due.   I do not admire the rubbsih often enough spouted in this form by either SA or New Zealand members of this site.  The 1995, 2007 and 2011 World Cups are history and nothing we write about it can change the fact - what should be the norm is present rugby performances and what is happening in 2013 and from there onwards.  That is really my view on issues. 

 


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 06:34:56

Moolaa, you are the only dunce kop here. You talk shit you know nothing about. The watch was presented after the game. The "try" that the french scored was not a clear cut try and we did not have the benefit of tv match officials. Bevan had to make a call with 10 bodies lying over the ball. You name one ref today that would award that try without consulting a tv ref? You would have to be a very brave man or very certain! Its the same way umpires cant rule on run outs that are really close. It happens too fast!

Some calls go your way some dont and if that was a French try, its just one of those things but Bevan was unsure therfore can not award a try. He did the right thing and you know it. You will never admit it because you are a fool but that is the truth.

 

Yes, NZL had the more polished team in 95'. Yes, if that game was played 10 times, NZL might have won 9 of them but they didnt win the one that counted and that hurts you more than anything doesn't it. You had 1 shot at it and you blew it. The Boks were simply the better team on the day. Your secret weapon in Lomu went a whole career without scoring a try against the mighty BOKKE. ha ha we are just too good. Dont keep referring to your trophy cabinet like we are in awe of you. We saw the run you had to the WC final. We associate that cup with Bryce Lawrences face. It was a farce and yet again, you guys blew it. It took a kiwi ref to get rid of the Boks and a Bok ref to ensure you tossers won..How ironic! Biggest joke in WC history the 2011 edition!!


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 06:44:03

Mike, read my posts again! The watch was of course given AFTER the game....just like I said. Why can't you blokes understand plain English? I was pointing out to Thicklogic that it would be pointless giving the watch prior to the game when Bevan hadn't even reffed your semi yet!!!!!!

And I know you guys are  not in awe of us, but it sure winds jerks like Logic & Pedsman up, oh and Hasbeeno too!


clevermike

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May 07, 2013, 07:42:33

moolaa

You can deal with the other posters anyway you deem fit - but the insult of the late Dr Luyt was really uncalled for.  As any amount of hankering to the past will help here - and it is best to ignore rubbish when it appears in this forum and concentrate on facts and the future.

I am really a supporter of any teams playing well - but critical if they do have deficiencies that is clear in the games in question - irrespective of the counntry of origin of the teams.  However, unlike some members I do not spare the local sides - and that includes the Springboks - from criticism when they deserve it.  I am probably harsher in my criticism of SA teams than I am of any opposing teams and that I believe is a sound way to deal with issues. .


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 12:01:17

 Hey brain thats never gona make any moolaa, you calling Derek Bevan out on 1 call that has never gone down as a "wonder" of rugby. The man could not award a try. He did not have the luxury of a TMO..It was inconclusive if the try was scored therefore it could not be awarded. Same rules applied to every team!

 

The way you speak, you would swear blind Bevan blew the French out the game ala Bryce Lawrence... I suppose in your books, Dr Luyt told Bevan, in the last play of the game, Benazzi is going to cross the line for a try. Make sure you do not award it!! ha ha it was one incident and I ask you to please have a look at the clip and tell me where you see the ball cross the line:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AmSK-IkzK0

 

If you cant see it in real time, how can Bevan. ha ha you are delusional. If you wana see cheating, search bryce clips on youtube..


Beeno1

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May 07, 2013, 12:51:34

A master piece Boklogic and one that ends the contest. Sound advice given to kiwis as well; and its all free!

Game set and match.

 


allblacknblue

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 16:37:51

Well either some slapper named Sussie did the dirty or SA has very very low food hygiene standards. Those lads WERE crook no team would bench those first choice guys and make that shit up! (Embarrassing that i even have to spell that out lol)

2007 was disgraceful and that case has been closed a long while, but it was only the quarter finals so I'm not gonna say we would have won the world cup cause we probably wouldn't have.

2011 I don't know what you guys are even smoking, you guys were shit and wouldn't have gotten past the semis. You go on about been robbed but what about poor wales in the first pool match, yeah/naah forgot about that aye guys must have the nose a bit too far up your poor pooper's. I don't hear any blame going to Ireland for beating aussie and setting up that quarter final either, nope as always it's the refs fault, we can doa better job.

Your all the same and all just like that fat saffa fucker who jumped on the pitch and took a swing at the ref. Things don't always go your way in life but you fellas should know that with your piss poor economy, skill shortage and dismal human rights history hahaahahaha it makes me laugh and think life is grand it really does! hahahahahabanbeanio good luck at the next world cup btw... 

 

 


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 07, 2013, 23:32:08

Logic, we've just about done this one to death so all I'm going to say is that watching that incident live and on websites since, Benazzi dived on to the ground and in the atrocious conditions slid well over the line with ball in hand. Benefit of the doubt had to go to the French, except for Derek Bevan's home side favouritism!

I've never said Bevan blew the French out of the game; just when it really counted in the last minutes when the try would've won the match for them. That's when he earnt his gold watch from the good "Doctor" Luyt.

Luyt may have been Mike's mate but what he did at the dinner after the Final was an absolute disgrace in first presenting the watch and then thumbing his nose at all and sundry by declaring that the Boks would've won the first 2 tournaments anyway. Several ABs walked out of that dinner after that incident.

Luyt may have been a nice bloke otherwise but he was always despised on this side of the world after that display of sheer arrogance.

Subject now closed.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 01:33:54

Ha ha Moolaa, are you listening to yourself? Benefit of the doubt? Have you ever heard of a call in rugby being made "benefit of the doubt?" Law states it must be conclusive evidence a try has been scored. If there is any doubt, it can not be awarded!

He could have dived to the floor, ball get stuck under him and never cross the line. How do you know that did not happen. We couldn't see. Anything could have happened. The right decision was made at the end of the day.

 

Allblackandtalknothingbutsmack, how can you say those mem were crook? Men do not play 120 mins of footy at that level if they are crook. Have you ever had food poisoning? My dad got it from some sushi he ate in Hamilton (food standards guys!!) and we thought he was gona die. He was violently ill and too weak to do anything for around 5 or 6 days! I kid you not. He is shit scared of sushi now.

 

How can the AB's have had food poisoning and still be strong enough to play a game of international rugby for 120 mins. My dad would have been steam rolled by a toddler in that state. Please okes, dont talk shit. Like many occasions before, you boys just couldn't get the job done. Must remember, those were the days politics did not impact our rugby and we could choose 22 of the best players in the country. Something we have not been able to do for a good 10 to 15 years now!

 

You speak of the Irish v Aus game. Who reffed that by the way?? Oh ya.. The man himself. Bryce Lawrence. Any wonder why the 2 biggest upsets of the compo came at the hands of him? Aussies also launched a formal complaint after that game and Bryce did he best to avenge that game by sucking the Aussies ass against us to prove he doesn't hate them. Nothing you guys say will change that he is a dirty little cunt (kiwi for short!).

 

Piet Van Zyl. Yep, the fat fucker who took it upon himself to see a fair match and he got that result. Once ref's were replaced, the Boks finally were awarded a try despite being on top all game. Go watch that game again. 60 000 people in a stadium cant all be wrong!

 

Thanks to South Africans in NZL, you dom foks dont have skills shortages anymore. Sure, it has impacted on SA but atleast NZL is running these days. No need to thank us. How can you be smart when you are outnumbered by sheep!

 

You mention the SA v Wales game?? What for I dont know. Good contest given to the Boks by a team who should have been finalists. We were fortunate to get the W there but what more?? I fail to see how wales were robbed. If you talking about the kick at goal, Vinnie Munroe himself said that it did not go over. He said it swung after the post and actually missed by a lot bigger margin than people think or that it looked like. They did analysis on it.

Why would 2  linesman be so confident??

 

I like your comment "No team would make that shit up!" Ha ha kiwis always have an excuse. Just like the Boks supporters. Funny how you have had an excuse for every other game you dont win that matters!


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 05:12:13

Logic making up rugby laws once again! Tell me where it says "there must be conclusive evidence"?

Nowhere; that's where,  you dung merchant! He definitely crossed the line too you blind hua!

Make sure you stay in North Harbour too, with the rest of your immigrant mates who couldn't tough it out in their own country. There's obviously a Bok influence there by the way their rugby team is performing!


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 05:52:20

Ha ha wrong again Moolaa. We just toughed it for too long that we come here to life the cushy lives and take jobs away from the brainless.

You wouldn't last a day in SA so spare the bullshit of toughing it. Whilst you spending your benefit, we lived in the real world!

 

He could have crossed the line, he could have grounded the ball but then again, many guys have crossed the line and not scored tries. Its called held up you dumb prick!

 

There must be conclusive evidence of a try being scored. Any doubt and the try can not be awarded. If there does not need to be conclusive evidence, why do we have TMO's ruling on that instead of every player that crosses the line just be awarded a try like NFL?? You just sounding stupid now Moolaa..Just shut up and fade away and we will forget that comment surrounding "conclusive!"

 

Have you ever heard the TMO say, "There was no conclusive evidence that a try has been scored therefore, held up, 5 metre scrum attacking ball!" No benefit of the doubt in rugby!


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 06:14:28

I doubt you've ever toughed anything out in your miserable life Logic. You sure couldn't hack the pace in SA. You must be an embarrassment to your family!

I repeat, where does the word conclusive (you must have used spell check for that word) appear in the rules of rugby in connection with a try? It doesn't!

Logic still inventing I see!

And what's this "you just sounding"  and "whilst you spending your benefit"? The word is "you're" you illiterate imbecile! Get back to Broederbond Elementary with Hasbeeno and learn the basics of English as you're really sounding like a moron now.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 12:31:45

 23 years of the good life in SA. The toughest part of my life has been the last 3.5 years in this shit hole country with dumb fucks like yourself. What can you expect from an island though where who can receive the most hand outs is name of the game.. Your family must be so proud of you.

 

My entire family is over in NZL now..We all came to make sure we take a few more jobs away from kiwis ;-)

 

Think logically knobless. If we did not need conclusive evidence to make rulings, then why would we have TMO's?? Would the refs not just carry on assuming?? U so thick!!


allblacknblue

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 08, 2013, 15:38:16

Come now boklogic, everybody knows you don't eat seafood in Hamilton the chlamydia capital of the fucking world, if food poisoning was his biggest problem he should thank has lucky stars (He could have been made some bush pigs bitch and really got sick!).

That fucking kick looked like it went over to me and I'm sticking to that version of events!

Yeap, lots of saffa's in nz now, worked with a few but only meet 1 who was actually a very good craftsmen, the rest are the reason pay rates for engineers are now on par with xray attendants at the airport. Interviewed a saffa welder years ago and had a test set up for him, silly bastard didn’t even wear a helmet and gave himself probably the worst case of arc eye i've ever seen and had to take him to A n E, I was gonna stop him but thought fuck em, he's probably related to Suzzie!

Those 'dirty kiwis' grabbing the handouts you refer to, are all that’s left in NZ now. All us decent bastards are either in oz, the UK or like me in the middle east, I went back last xmas to get married and my god the place has gone down hill (probably thanks to all those saffa's!) and when asked by friends if I would come back to live I said what would I even do here, teach? there are no decent, interesting industry’s left. So honestly you guys can have NZ, take the woman too...please hahahahahaha

 

 

 


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 09, 2013, 00:18:17

Logic, let's have another English lesson and listen very carefully.

It's not U (you) so thick, it's "you're" as in "you are"! Takes a while to get through to some boat people.

If your entire family's here, I'll bet the whole tribe is an embarrassment to whatever community you lived in in SA. They would be in despair at your inability to tough it out like  true South Africans and not whimp and whine off to good old NZ and collect our much needed dole money.

As you've handsomely demonstrated, the toughest part of your life has been learning the English language........up to now you have failed miserably in this respect so obviously you aren't gainfully employed in NZ.

Best you get back to SA where you had 23 great years, cos you sure aren't doing so well here.

And take the rest of your "hangers on" with you.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 09, 2013, 06:34:48

Shows you ignorance that you can comment so insightfully on a man and his families life that you dont know a thing about. Its almost like kiwi's trying to become refs. Stay away from shit that you dont know anything about guys!! Come on man!!

 

I cant believe I made the mistake of signing up to SA rugby. I was looking for English lessons. My bad. What a tosser.

 

Talking about "hangers on," why are you hanging on to an SA rugby site? Is there no NZL rugby site where all you cunts kid each other about how NZL is far superior to the Boks. I assume you will find that site on cloud 9!

 

Nope, all my family is employed thank you. We have a distinct advantage. We are South African in NZL. Its not even fair. Taking candy from a baby.

YOU'RE a knob..Hey look, I learnt english ;-)

ps..there should be a comma seperating the two "in" in the 5th line of your dribble above. See, we can all pick each others grammar apart if we lack the intelligence to form a decent come back. No one thinks you are clever but yourself and your parents. Course a lifetime at home on the dole, smoking P didnt help them much ;-)


polyboy

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 09, 2013, 12:28:24
Boklogic you really hate living in NZ or just reacting to Kiwi posters? And have to say at the moment NZ does have SA number in rugby, you just have to look at the win/loss ratio/champioships won in Super rugby, Tri nations, Rugby Championship and AB/Bok matches played to date, that is not cloud 9. However if you do hate living there are you there for work?


moolaa

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 09, 2013, 22:06:07

Poly, you have to make allowances for sad people like Logic. Despised in his own country for leaving when the going got a tad tough and now despising the country that welcomed him and his "hangers on" with open welfare cheque book!

On top of this, his rugby team is continually owned by the ABs! Makes for a miserable existence, especially if your command of the local language isn't crash hot either. Difficult to even land a job in those circumstances, let alone hold one down.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 09, 2013, 22:20:36

Nah Poly. Dont hate NZL. Took a while to get used to it but its pretty good now. Well I went back to Durbs for 5 week holiday last year (35 days to be exact) and I changed my ticket after 10 days and returned to NZL. Its home now.

 

I had a moment of honesty with Saffex about how I feel about NZL the other day on one of the posts. NZL has its faults, SA has more so when I get guys bringing up all of ours, I have to throw some back. Definately reacting to Kiwi posters ;-)

 

No doubt the AB's have the wood on the Boks in the last few years but I can guarantee you one thing, a lot of that has to do with team selection. Lets see it from the point of view of NZL. If all our players, were your players, would the team look the same. Would Hansen and co. ever consider guys like Kirchner and the rest?

We have political influences. One thing is for certain, if a guy like Beeno picked the pack and Saffex the backs, the Bok team, we would be a whole lot more scary to the AB's. Political pressure dont allow us to. We come over to NZL and compete, in my opinion, way better on a whole than kiwi teams tend to go in the republic during S15. Why when we get to Bok level does that change. Its because NZL are selecting the best 22 in their country. We are not! We are seeing our best attacking players sitting out for guys like De Jongh, Kirchener and heaps of others. Only way to beat NZL is to have big, athletic men runnning it up all day. Kirchener and co are links the AB's attack all day long. We need to get rid of some old, dead wood because what I have seen emerge this year in terms of new kids on the block is better than I have seen for a while!

 

On the competing in NZL. I refer to games like the Sharks nearly reeling the Chiefs in. That game should have been put to bed after the first 15. Stormers topple Hurricanes in wellington and Canes get dicked in Pretoria. Cheetahs hammer the star studded Highlanders. Bulls beat the high flying Blues. Stormers beat the Blues everywhere but scoreboard. Sharks had the better of Highlanders with a team with no less than 20+ injuries. 3rd string team! We are competing a lot better now than we have done in the past. Not saying we have not had those games that NZL teams have dominated but on a whole, we are competing much better. I think with a bit of thinking in selection from coaches, we are ready to take back world number 1 status. That game in Dunedin with a young team was plain for all to see what dominance we can have and should have. Now we have better players to build on that!


polyboy

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 10, 2013, 02:01:37
Boklogic,this is a rugby site and to see the tone change to personal attacks whether SA or Kiwi detracts from why we are here, namely friendly,ribbing banter and chest puffing as to why SA rugby or NZ rugby is better. We are all men aren't we, but my interest in why you were in NZ was more that with you living there and if you really did hate it then I actually thought crap is my country really treating a foreign national that badly? Living overseas as a kiwi you take a certain pride in your country so hearing that it may be treating someone who has chosen to settle there poorly leaves ones nationalistic pride dented. For all our differences at the end of the day rugby is only a game we all enjoy, but man when it descends into attacks, I love my rugby but not enough to use it as an excuse to slander someone.. Anyway I'm glad things aren't that bad there for you and your family.


Boklogic

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 10, 2013, 03:05:55

Yeah for sure Poly. You must be patriotic and on a whole, NZL is a good place to live. Now, everywhere we go as South African's, we have to take shit about where we're from and the state of our country but then you get someone like Moolaa who runs his mouth off about the country when he has never been there. Runs his mouth off about Dr. Luyt when he personally doesn't know the man.

 

I dont know Dr. Luyt personally either so for all I know, Moolaa could be right in calling him and arrogant ponce but I assume he too is taking a stab in the dark on that one too.

 

I blame some ex-pats for that as well. I meet a lot of South African's this side that make out like they are lucky to be alive and like SA is the wild west. Talking utter crap about guys getting hijacked at every robot (traffic light) and that you cant leave your fenced in homes. I just laugh then ask so how long have u been here? What age did u leave SA. Often getting answers of 11 - 15 years olf and sometimes younger. Then I tell them so basically you left SA before you finished school and moved out of your parents home. You couldn't legally drive a car and got lifts everywhere with your parents. As a man who lived, worked, finished school and had independence in the country, I can assure them that its nothing like they make out and they are just trying to sound like the tough guy.

These are the stories kiwi's are hearing and that gives them this completely different picture. Then I meet older Kiwi's on the golf course who have travelled through SA, some a long time ago when it was great but others more recent and they loved it! Yes, crime is bad and yes its getting worse but far from what some of these SA pricks that were wrapped up in cotton wool by their parents before coming over here will tell you.

For this reason, I find it easier to relate to Kiwi's here than those types of "Saffas!" Some left as early as 3 or 4 years old and you would never say they are South African yet they have the most to say about the place they know nothing about besides being born and shipped!


polyboy

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RE: NZ 7s vs blitzbok cup final,,,
May 10, 2013, 12:58:47
You know Boklogic, I know several SA here in US who tell me exactly what you just said and their experiences are different depending on how long ago they left SA. During World Cup was at Disneyworld had an AB shirt on, a tap on the shoulder and it was a SA with a Bok shirt on, no rivalry just talked rugby for awhile didn't even no each others name and parted, but he didn't have a bad word to say about SA, funnily enough met an Aussie too that day who asked the AB/wallaby score, when told AB won, all he said was "f....ken kiwi's and walked off. However crap happens and I suppose for you its worse as you live in NZ where rugby is as much a passion as in SA and must worsen during super 15, test seasons, kinda like living in the enemies camp. Anyhow this doesn't mean we can't still differ in our opinions but in a civil way. You live in Albany? Gradutaed from AUT in the 90's.


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