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bluebok

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Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 11:59:30

Right, not the best start for my superbru, but good for SA. Hurricanes 16, Stormers18.  


Bok -Bef$K

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 12:22:39
Also backed the home team. Barrett was shocking and ultimately handed the Stormers the win. Also a horrible game to watch. Anyway congrats Stormers good for SA.


Beeno1

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 13:00:02

Great result by the Stormers. Will watch game tonight.

We need to hang in there until our to players return.


Beeno1

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 13:24:29

Extract from a Supersport article

Ben Franks (Wasn the the twit who got sent off last week or perhaps it was the other franks playing for the crusties) had been involved in an early punching incident that led to a Stormers penalty and was probably lucky to stay on the field as he was at the heart of several incidents (Seesm very ofd a punch doesnt get a red) . When the Stormers were held up on the line a third time, Franks was the culprit in bringing the maul down, but all Walsh did was issue him a warning (About par fo the course for a nz ref?)

Seems  Wash had a typical nz ref day at the office.

 


oimatey

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 13:31:14

 Walsh is terrible. What an egocentric fool.

 


Denny

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 13:57:02

Watched the whole game...thought Joe, Aplon and Vermeulen were outstanding as were Duvenhage and Bekker. Thought the Stormers approach was measured, they didn't panic and took their chances....thought De Jongh's defence was excellent but I was unimpressed with De Villier's defence.I liked the confidence of the team and felt there was plenty of room for improvement.


Lucid

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 14:51:21

I agree the ref was awful, his vision wasn't clear with the some knock ons as well as some other penalties which was conceded. If it was a different ref it would've been better for both teams, but unfortunately not. Credit to the Stormers they played to the end and got a positive result, however Stormers was under some pressure Habana in particular from the tactical kicking from barrett. Some interesting questions are often mentioned about which tactics are appropriate for playing against certain teams, surely not all are worked well as expected because teams can counter it, having said that its important to have a variety of different tactics and i think Hurricanes have it. Hurricanes was aware Stormers defensive method is one of the best so kicking the ball behind the defensive line was the tactical option directly where habana was, it was well executed by barrett a few times. From what i observed Van Aswegen wasn't up to standard, his performance against the Sharks was not bad however in this game it changed my perspective about him, defensively he doesn't have what it takes to compete at this level and hes not attempting to attack the gainline himself, Jantjies is a reasonably better option at fly half overall, the creative tension is there. I was impressed by Vermeulen performance, a strong ball carrier. I believe with Etzebeth and Kolisi we can defeat the Blues next week. Im pleased with where they are at, obviously Stormers didn't start well in the season although they have the comitment to win all the away games. Go Stormers!


Denny

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 15:03:34

Good summation, Lucid, I don't entirely agree but nevertheless it's still a good one.....be patient with Van Aswegen though, I caution about dissing him this early.


clevermike

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 26, 2013, 18:50:20

Lucid

I do not agree about Van Aswegen.  I would rather have him than Jantjies at flyhalf.  Jantjies defence is virtually non-exystent and he es under pressure terrible in the game against the Crusaders - knocking on balls and giving away a crucial penalty.  

I think that Jantjies will probably be playing next week and in fact hope he does not.  Players like Luatua and Braid will make mincemeat of him.  


Lucid

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 27, 2013, 05:29:11

Mike
Im not convinced Van Aswegen is a logical option for flyhalf, some of his aspects of play are effective such as clearence kicking and basic passing however he has nothing else to offer in general. Having a wide range of essential attributes is important to have at flyhalf not just the basics, that would be more convenient at CC level not S15. I agree Jantjies was terrible against the Crusaders but at that stage i believe he was still in a emotional state due to bad situation which occured in his personal life that had a impact on his performance, it was probably the worst point of time in his life and recovering from that takes alot of time. You know the majority of the time he doesn't play like that. Coetzee should consider giving him a opportunity against the blues. Im a believer in improvement and progression, i think hes dedicated to do well. Jantjies is more creative and has what it takes to put players into space as well as having a run himself which i don't see Van Aswegen doing. Defensively both do miss tackes but how about the amount of attempts and offloads?


clevermike

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 27, 2013, 05:41:12

Lucid

Both Van Aswegen and Jantjies have serious limitations at this stage - and are not ideal flyhalfs fpr the Stormers.   I certainly sympathize with Jantjies for the cruel personal blow he suffered - but it must at the same time be taken into account that he is a professional and that he should show that he can in his professional life overome that loss.

That being said - I think that Van Aswegen in the two games he played in was more secure under pressure than Jantjies was in his games this year..   Both had poor defencive records - with Jantjies being the poorest of the two.   Jantjes can be a better attacking player - but with him it is indeed likely that things can go wrong 

I may be conservative in this case - but would rather go for the safe - as against the more dangerous option  in this case.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Stormers beat Hurricanes in NZ
April 27, 2013, 09:22:25

congrats to the stormers for a well deserved win, hurricanes didnt make easy but stormers came through in the end.
hurricanes still dont know how to win the tight matches while the stormers on the back of some first class defence have for the past couple of years, came thbrough on the right end of the scoreboard

i agree with the comments about ben franks puch, he should have been sent off. im even more disappointed cos ben franks is an All Black and discipline is som,ething that is always heavily stressed.
the hurricanes need their senior to players to be leaders and show restraint, if kiwis were to go around punching every saffa who they thought had wronged them, saffas would be going down the path of the dodo, lolz, :oP

every good thing that barret does, he makes two mistsckles and two errors. God help our ABs if he makes the team again.

love how lowe started over ardie, more brilliance from the most overrated coach in NZ super rugby history.

brekadowns were horrible and somebody please tell the huuricnae locks that theyre locks and not wingers or centers, FFS get in there and do some fucking work u clowns.
they couldnt even win their own lineouts, but they had no problems getting in the way of the backs, sheesh.

very hard to be a hurricanes fan, same shit year in and year out, bring on the All Blacks so that my frown can br turned upside down, :o/


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