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carpetmuncher

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IS JUNGLE JIVER COETZEE UNFIREABLE
April 08, 2013, 12:25:29

IT shows poorly for a coach when he receives 2 junior players that was springbok material and coaches them so badly that they are a not feature at the stormers ?

 

is Coetzee infireable ?


clevermike

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RE: IS JUNGLE JIVER COETZEE UNFIREABLE
April 08, 2013, 13:03:01

Carpetmuncher

He is rapidly getting to the stage where public demand will get him to be fired.   Will he be - the rest of the season will tell us.  More losses and he is a goner.

Did he contribute to the Jantjies disaster?   I do not think so - Jantjies always was a player with the deficiencies that now is on full public view.  Did he advise the Board to sign up Jantjies - yes he did and probably had to sacrifice Catrakillis to get acceptance of that.

I think it is basically his selections that is going to get him fired in the end.   The diminutive backline he wants to field continuously is a major problem.  Despite his two tries - De Jongh was a defensive disaster on Saturday and he brings nothing to the backline insofar as attacking backline play isconcerned.

I am actually glad the Stormers lost on Saturday - it may put pressure on Coetzee to get his selections right.


Beeno1

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RE: IS JUNGLE JIVER COETZEE UNFIREABLE
April 08, 2013, 13:52:34

I hear Kolisi is injured so we may see Deon back at 7 and Bezhuidenhout at hooker which will be an improvement.

The letting go of the CAT who could not have been an expensive player surely was a massive blunder as about everyone here noted Mike.

we have lost the following over the last two years that I can think of.:

Francois Louw, Pieter Louw, Quin Roux, Koster, Cat, Whitehead, JJ Sadie , Jaque Fourie.

I dont blame him for the loss of Jaque. The guys he needed to keep were Francois Louw, Quinn Roux and Cat. Obviously Koster is far better than Carr who is a complete flop. White and JJ in particular represented our next wave in backline players.

Look it could also be finances but they paid a fortune for Jantjes and company. Finances may not be too great but make good use of them. Cat would have been a cheapish but excellent buy. This shows lack of judgement. The selction of hookers was also bad. We need another decent scrumming hooker. deon can do  ajob of sorts but he is a superb 6 . Ntubeni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look wah tNake achieves with probbly the smalles tbudget by some way. That is why I have always rated Naka.

Ou mucher makes a good point and one that had of course occured to me too.

Jantjes played reasonably well in difficult circumstances with his rugby brain being the question.  Taute looked like a class fullback. What now? Both flopped. The fact is Mitchell and Carlos Spencer are miles ahead of what we have here (had they been coaching the Stormers we would have soared- become untouchable). Top coaches like Mallet and Rassie wouldnt put up with the rubbish here.

But please in fairness to Alistair, a really decent guy, do not deny also that these injuries have been crippling. Take head out of sand all boneheads asseblief tog! Get the whole picture. Unfortunately super 15 is test standard rugby and you come up against the very best coaches and renowned down under sharp practise. Bwahhahahahahahahaha you have to be on your toes and very sharp.

We are not quite out of it yet but all depneds on us getting top players back and the right selections etc. What a let down thus far! 

 


carpetmuncher

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RE: IS JUNGLE JIVER COETZEE UNFIREABLE
April 08, 2013, 14:52:17

i agree mike....a long list of bad decision poor player management, poor player development and poor talent retention and even worse talent buying shows how the mindset is at the stormers. if it was any other coach he would have been fired because of his poor performances.

 

taute and jantjies at least at the lions had some form even though jantjies blew hot and cold. now they are even injuried or totally inept....how can anyone feel that the current coaching team of the stormers are in remotely the best in the country ?

 

dont worry jungle jiver coetzee will spin some rubbish story after the match talking about building and the missed chances rather than his blatnat in ablity to coach himself out of a paper bag.

 

as a non stormer i say long may it continue


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