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sasuke uchiha

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british lions form 22,,,
March 17, 2013, 20:59:39

british and irish lions.

1 cian healy

2 tom youngs

3 adam jones

4 joe launcbury

5 geoff parling

6 tom wood

7 sean obrien

8 toby faletau

9 ben youngs

10 jonathan [removed]ton

11 simon zebo

12 manu tuilagi

13 brian odriscoll (c)

14 george north

15 stuart hogg

reserves

16 rory best

17 dan cole

18 paul oconnel

19 sam warburton

20 mike phillips

21 owen farrel

22 sean maitland
 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 17, 2013, 21:10:22

the british and irish lions really are spoilt for choice, i dont remember the 2005 lions tour to NZ or the 2009 lions tour to SA having the same selection headaches as this current squad.

lions tours are really special, the only team who does a true tour like our teams from yesteryear use to.

wallabies really need to manage thier players, cos any injuries to their top players will hurt them real bad.

i expect the wallabies to win the first test, and depending on the aussie frontline players, possibly the lions to win at least one of the last two tests.
 


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 02:18:51

Cole is better than Jones at 3. Manu is not a 12. Tipuric and Warburton are better than O Brien.  Cuthbert is better than Zebo. Philips is far better than Youngs. Not convinced with the Pom locks, the Welsh locks dominated them today.

 

Its a tough call to choose 22 though.

 

Maitland has done nothing to merit inclusion, doubt he will make the tour.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 03:49:36

interesting topic - when watching a replay of wales v england yesterday I was thinking how tough this matchup will be for the wallabies - the top 2 6 nations teams will comprise majority of lions...

IF the wallabies can bring some brumby inspired structure and flow to their game and not make stupid mistakes both in selection & on-field Walalbies should win  the series but will not be easy... Melbourne and Sydney - no home ground advantage to speak of so will be good spectacle to watch.

If fact it will be refreshing to aim up @ northern hemisphere for a bit of a respite from having to focus solely on kiwis... havent had to worry about saffas for a while as not much of a challenge in recent years...

 

btw Phillips be starting halfback any day for me...

 

 

 


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 06:12:34

Phillips is an outstanding player. Cole got hammered on Saturday. Roberts clashed often with Tuilagi, even if they played 12 and 13, and dominated him.

 

All told it looks like the Welsh are under represented in your team Sasu.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 09:02:13

regarding some of the comments,,,

i went with ben young over philips cos IMO young has had the better 6nations. granted the english have been kak the last two games, but young has played better then phillips who i do rate.

zebo got my left wing cos hes the one winger who has shown something more then any one else. a flair not normally associated with NH rugby. his form throughout the tournmaent has also been solid.

m[removed]amoa at 12 for me, cos he has the perfect attributes to handle the physicality the modern day 12 demands.
roberts is the prime candidate for the 12, but m[removed]amoas trumps him with speed & distribution.

cole did get hammered in the weekend, but hes been one of the best props throughout the comp and jones has been getting better and better so he makes the starting XV.

maitland is my bolter, covers anywhere in the outside back, has intimate knowledge of robbie deans and his wallys.
i also think that maitlans selection suits the SH theme which is all the rave in NH right now, LMAO, :oP

lack of welsh dudes is more testmant to depth the lions have. they can literally afford injuries to the whoel 22 and still feild a team to be more then competitive against the wallabies.


Rooinek

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 09:48:46

Starting XV:

 

15 Leigh Halfpenny (WAL)

14 Alex Cuthbert (WAL)

13 Manu Tuilagi (ENG)

12 Jamie Roberts (WAL)

11 George North (WAL)

10 Owen Farrell (ENG)

9 Mike Phillips (WAL)

8 Jamie Heaslip (IRE)

7 Sam Warburton (WAL)

6 Sean O'Brien (IRE)

5 Geoff Parling (ENG)

4 Richie Gray (SCO)

3 Adam Jones (WAL)

2 Tom Youngs (ENG)

1 Gethin Jenkins (WAL)

 

Rest of squad:

 

Props: Alex Corbisiero (ENG), Cian Healy (IRE), Dan Cole (ENG), Euan Murray (SCO)

Hookers: Richard Hibbard (WAL), Ross Ford (SCO)

Locks: Alun-Wyn Jones (WAL), Joe Launchbury (ENG), Ian Evans (WAL)

Loose Fowards: Justin Tipuric (WAL), Tom Wood (ENG), Toby Faletau (WAL), Chris Robshaw (ENG)

Scrumhalves: Ben Youngs (ENG), Greig Laidlaw (SCO)

Flyhalves: Jonathan [removed]ton (IRE), Dan Biggar (WAL)

Centres: Jonathan Davies (WAL), Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)

Wings: Tommy Bowe (IRE), Chris Ashton (ENG)

Fullbacks: Stuart Hogg (SCO), Rob Kearney (IRE)

 

That's a total of 38 players (15 Welsh, 11 English, 7 Irish, 5 Scots) which is 1 more than the last Lions tour but there are 23 man match-day squads this time.

 

Anyone else want to put up their 38 man squad and we can see who gets the most names right?

 

Not sure who the captain will be. The Lions tend to pick big imposing locks as their tour captains and if I was betting, I'd take very long odds on a real surprise like Richie Gray although I think it might be Brian O'Driscoll. If O'Driscoll is named captain, my starting XV would have to change with Tuilagi moving to inside centre and BOD taking the #13.

 

Also, there's often a real bolter named in the Lions squad so don't be surprised if someone like Billy Twelvetrees or Iain Henderson is named . . . or more likely a winger like Sean Maitland or Simon Zebo ahead of the out-of-form Chris Ashton who I only included on reputation.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 12:55:18

Corbisiero is injured and has been for most of the season. He will not be making any Tour this Summer, unless he has an amazing recovery !! And, given he hasn't played for so long, one would not expect him to be included.

[removed]ton and Zebo are also out for a number of weeks longer. I would doubt they would be fit to be considered.

 

O'Driscoll has been very poor this 6 Nations. If he goes, I would not expect him to feature in the Test side, unless he has a Lazarus like re-birth. His aura holds little weight these days, especially with other nations. I think he's stayed on playing Internationally a year too long. As is shown by his loss of temper and frustration during matches. He also has to see if he will face further sanctions for stamping on Saturday.

Sean Maitland shouldn't be there full stop.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 13:07:58

Good squad Rooi, its a tough call......Corbisiero would make my squad if fit, but doubt he will be. Ashton has been poor this year, I reckon Brown will play ahead of him and covers wing and fullback.

 

Richie Gray has had a very disappointing 6N after being so good last year. I would select him though as the majority of the NH locks lack grunt.

 

I need to have a good think about my 38 and will post it shortly


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
March 18, 2013, 19:11:43

Ok Rooinek here goes with my squad of 40:

 

Starting 15:

 

15. Brown 14. Cuthbert 13. Tuilagi 12. Roberts 11. North 10. [removed]ton 9. Philips 1. Jenkins 2. Ford 3. Cole 4. Alun Wyn Jones 5. Gray 6. Wood 7. Warburton 8. Faltau

 

Squad:

 

Fullbacks: Kearney, Hogg

 

Wings: Zebo, Ashton, Halfpenny

 

Centres: O'Driscoll, Davies, Barritt

 

Flyhalves: Farrell, Biggar

 

Scrumhalves: Murray, Youngs

 

Props: Healy, Murray, Jones

 

Hookers: Youngs, Best

 

Locks: Launchberry, Evans, Hamilton

 

Loosies: Tipuric, O'Brien, Robshaw, Beatie, Heaslip

 

If Corbisiero, Bowe, Ferris, Rees, Priesland and Foden are fit, I would probably include them.


Rooinek

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 10:57:43

Thought I'd bring this thread back to the top. The Lions squad is due to be announced in about an hour's time.

 

There's a rumour doing the rounds on Twitter, Planet Rugby and other websites that the following squad has already been leaked . . . but please note, this is NOT the official Lions squad:

 

Back three: Tommy Bowe (Ire), Alex Cuthbert (Wal), Leigh Halfpenny (Wal), Stuart Hogg (Sco), Rob Kearney (Ire), George North (Wal), Simon Zebo (Ire).

Centres (5): Jonathan Davies (Wal), Brian O’Driscoll (Ire), Jamie Roberts (Wal), Manu Tuilagi (Eng), Billy Twelvetrees (Eng).


Fly halves (2): Owen Farrell (Eng), Jonathan [removed]ton (Ire).

Scrum halves (3): Greig Laidlaw (Sco), Mike Phillips (Wal), Ben Youngs (Eng).

Props (6): Dan Cole (Eng), Ryan Grant (Sco), Cian Healy (Ire), Gethin Jenkins (Wal), Adam Jones (Wal), Mike Ross (Ire).


Hookers (3): Rory Best (Ire), Richard Hibbard (Wal), Tom Youngs (Eng).

Locks (5): Ian Evans (Wal), Richie Gray (Sco), Alun Wyn Jones (Wal), Paul O’ Connell (Ire), Geoff Parling (Eng).

Back rows (7): Tom Croft (Eng), Toby Faletau (Wal), Jamie Heaslip (Ire), Dan Lydiate (Wal), Sean O’Brien (Ire), Justin Tipuric (Wal), Sam Warburton (captain, Wal).

 

If that is the squad, then the starting XV that I predicted after the 6N are all named. I would be a bit surprised if Dan Lydiate and Tom Croft are there. I actually rate both very highly but neither one has played much rugby this year.

 

I'll confirm the final squad around about 12h00 our time.

 


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 12:01:30

 Rooi, Croft has been in amazing form for the Tigers, man he scored a killer try the otherday, stepped a back and left him for dead......I think he might have played himself into the squad.

 

Will be surprised to see Wilko left out


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 12:27:48

 Wow cant believe Matt Stevens has made the squad, he is useless. A complete liability in the scrums

 

Here is the side:

Fullbacks (3): Leigh Halfpenny (Wal), Stuart Hogg (Sco), Rob Kearney (Ire)

 

Wings (4): Tommy Bowe (Ire), Alex Cuthbert (Wal), George North (Wal),  Sean Maitland (Sco)


Centres (4): Jonathan Davies (Wal), Brian O’Driscoll (Ire), Jamie Roberts (Wal), Manu Tuilagi (Eng)

 


Fly halves (2): Owen Farrell (Eng), Jonathan [removed]ton (Ire).

Scrum halves (3): Connor Murray (Ire), Mike Phillips (Wal), Ben Youngs (Eng).

Props (6): Dan Cole (Eng), Matt Stevens (Eng), Cian Healy (Ire), Gethin Jenkins (Wal), Adam Jones (Wal), M.Vinipola (Eng).


Hookers (3): Dylan Hartley (Eng), Richard Hibbard (Wal), Tom Youngs (Eng).

Locks (5): Ian Evans (Wal), Richie Gray (Sco), Alun Wyn Jones (Wal), Paul O’ Connell (Ire), Geoff Parling (Eng).

Back rows (7): Tom Croft (Eng), Toby Faletau (Wal), Jamie Heaslip (Ire), Dan Lydiate (Wal), Sean O’Brien (Ire), Justin Tipuric (Wal), Sam Warburton (captain, Wal).

 

Wales - 15

England - 10

Ireland - 9

Scotland - 3

 


Rooinek

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 12:45:26

The official Lions squad . . .

 

Forwards:

Props: Dan Cole, Cian Healy, Gethin Jenkins, Adam Jones, Matt Stevens, Mako Vunipola.
Hookers: Dylan Hartley, Richard Hibbard, Tom Youngs.
Locks: Ian Evans, Richie Gray, Alun-Wyn Jones, Paul O'Connell, Geoff Parling.
Back-rows: Tom Croft, Toby Faletau, Jamie Heaslip, Dan Lydiate, Sean O'Brien, Justin Tipuric, Sam Warburton (capt).

 

 

Backs:

Full-backs: Leigh Halfpenny, Stuart Hogg, Rob Kearney.
Wings: Tommy Bowe, Alex Cuthbert, Sean Maitland, George North.
Centres: Jonathan Davies, Brian O'Driscoll, Jamie Roberts, Manu Tuilagi.
Fly-halves: Owen Farrell, Jonathan [removed]ton.
Scrum-halves: Conor Murray, Mike Phillips, Ben Youngs.

 


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 12:45:46

Snapste I dont watch much NH rugby but surely O'Driscoll is over the hill - for some years now. Also O'Connor - man he must be creaking at the joints?

 


Rooinek

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 12:55:21

Yes, Matt Stevens is a very puzzling selection, as is the selection of Mako Vunipola . . . and Conor Murray ahead of Greig Laidlaw . . . and Sean Maitland ahead of Simon Zebo.

 

Still think the Lions are going to beat the Wallabies though! C'mon the Lions!


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:02:23

Vunipola is a handful so I can understand his selection as he adds plenty with ball in hand. Matt Stevens is just piss poor.

 

Agreed on Maitland......the likes of Zebo and Brown are better. I would also have included Hamilton ahead of Evans or Parling.

 

Wilko deserved a spot as well. They did not need to take 6 props. I would have had Wilko ahead of Stevens, Hamilton ahead of Parling and Zebo ahead of Maitland


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:09:05
I think Chris Robshaw is a bit unlucky too. I thought he'd at least be the dirt-tracker captain.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:10:22

So the Lions have been selected and according to Warren Gatland they have an incredibly talented sqaud (Yes that includes old man O'Driscoll and the bone creaking O'Connel Hahahahaha). However they always have an incredibly talented squad that returns invariably with their tail between their legs. How many SH tours have been successful?

Perhaps they should inlcude the French in their selections?

But hey I shouldnt be quibbling -  its great to see the high hopes and enthusiasm. One must allow oneself to get caught up in the moment.

Go OZ!!!

Found these brief comments on Sport 24:

The 2013 British and Irish Lions squad to Australia and Hong Kong will be captained by Sam Warburton, while the likes of Johnny Wilkinson missed out on selection.

 

Wales flanker Sam Warburton was on Tuesday named captain of the British and Irish Lions for this year's tour of Australia.

"Warren gave me a call a week ago on Sunday so it's been nine or 10 days since I found out," Warburton said at the squad announcement.

"It's been the hardest secret I ever had to keep, but I kept it in. It's unbelievable, it's an accolade which very few people can achieve. To be able to do this is an honour."

England captain Chris Robshaw was a notable omission from the squad along with former England flyhalf Jonny Wilkinson and Ireland hooker Rory Best.

Scotland winger Sean Maitland, England prop Mako Vunipola and former England prop Matt Stevens were among the surprise inclusions in the 37-man squad along with England hooker Dylan Hartley.

"We finalised the squad last night," coach Warren Gatland said. "We assembled yesterday afternoon as a coaching team, the seventh meeting we have had. It was a robust debate. There were some healthy discussions.

"The hardest thing about coaching is selection. Ideally you would like to take everyone. Some quality players have missed out. It has been tough, robust, but we feel we have an incredibly talented squad with great depth."

And they all said hear, hear and drank a toast or two or three - to get in training for the tour you understand  - and all the future sorrows they would endure. Chugger Chugger 

 

 


Rooinek

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:17:15

As usual, Baboon-ou's contribution is nothing more than a few quotes about what other people think.

 

Nothing original, nothing interesting and nothing that one couldn't find on another website. Why does this clown bother I wonder?


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:19:23

 One has to ask why on earth Speight never make the Oz squad, surely he is one of their best wings.

 

Its a tough call selecting an Oz backline but mine would be: 15. Fonau 14. Digby 13. Ashley Cooper 12. O'Connor 11. Speight 10. Cooper 9. Genia 16. White 17. Beale 18. Mogg


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:23:34

It's actually quite a confusing Squad, with the expected overall Welsh bias.

 

Some players really shouldn't be there, Matt Stevens, Sean Maitland, to name but two.

 

I don't rate Warburton as a player or a Captain, I'm afraid. Everyone seems to forget he was Captain when Wales lost 8 on the bounce and they only scraped the win against France  that set them up for the Six Nations Championship through French folly......Warburton didn't play a part in much of what went on until the latter stages, they have Ryan Jones to thank for the turnaround in their fortunes. Tipuric and Lydiate are far better Flankers than he is. He can consider himself a very fortunate man indeed. Let's hope he doesn't get found out on this tour.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:24:39

Beenkop, the Lions squad is not about age, its a one off tour, not a building exercise. O'Connel is 33 you fool, hardly a big deal for a lock and he won a MOM a week ago.

 

O'Driscoll will be there to give experience to the likes of Manu and Davies who will challenge for the 13 spot. There is only one true 12 in the squad and thats Roberts


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 13:49:11

@[removed],
henry speight isnt eligble for the wallabies until later on in the year when the residency rules have been fulfilled, i think he will be eligble for the 4nats though.

strong squad, i can see the merits of adding maitland as he will have more inside knowledge on the OZ players then enitre lions squad put together, but still surprised he was selected. gatland must have also included maitlands spXV form last couple of years, otherwise thats an odd one.

my midfield combo for the lions would be 12 m[removed]amoa tuilagi, 13 brian odriscoll, i reckon tuilagi is qually and very apt at 12 as he is at13 and playing inside of odriscoll will bring the best out of him.
i really wouldnt mind a jamie roberts/m[removed]amoa tuilagi midfiled though, that would be some mean muscle and power midfileders and hope toat least see that combo at some stage.

u cant have a wlaabies backline without will tapuaii, hes the form 12 along with leilafano, but leilafanos too green and give adequate cover on the bench.
i also think that starting folau would be a mistake, hes only just now finding his feet in rugby and putting him at 15 will only give the british and irish lions a  good target for their set peices and backline movements.

wallys backline,,,
9 w genia, 10 q cooper, 11 d ioane, 12 w tapuaii, 13 AAC, 14 j mogg, 15 j bieber
20 n white, 21 c leilafano, 22 i folau/k beale

i find the timing of beales return to the rebels to be more lions series orientated then rehab based.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 14:01:51

 Ah ok, the Speight exclusion makes sense now. You have left O'Connor out......no way in hell you can leave him out. Ben is good at 12, but I'd play O'Connor there as he is special


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 14:04:22

double speak from you snapster you complete hatter - so now 33 not too old for a tour.  Bakkies though is too old and please dont suggest Paul was ever in Bakkies class!

This from you the ultra youth merchant!

O Driscoll is past it - One does not need to watch much NH to have seen this. But you have been squaking about Jean being too old for some years now. Go figure

Go Oz!


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 14:11:55

Beenkop, do I really have to point out your stupidity? The Lions are a one off, they are not about building a team for the future, the Boks are. For that reason age is not an issue with the Lions - wake up man


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 14:19:18

@[removed],
james ocnner is my fullback, j bieber (the pop star) is my nickname for the dude cos he looks like a teenager goign through puberty.
like u, i rate him very very highly indeed.

and u have been blogging here long enough that u should know ur wasting ur time trying to talk rugby logic to beeno1 aka storminged, hes the only guy i know that will post an opinon on a game and then finish it of by saying he didnt even watch it, ROLMFAO, :oD
try talking more on his level and explain why adventure time is better then sponge bob square pants, :o)
just teasing u storminged, i still consider u my buddy, albeit a slightly [removed]ed buddy.


Saffex

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 14:59:02

Ah I get it. The talentless Bieber should be put down, what a waste of space he is. What the kids see in him is beyond me


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 16:27:32

Agree with Becs post regarding Warburton and one could say the same for Jamie Roberts!! both have been off the boil for quite some time. Lucky boys hope the redeem themselves.

Mat Stevens, well what can be said about that choice my oh my.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 16:56:11

Lady MO (NH) the time to cry is after the tour not now. Right now its still upper lip and the incredible talent line. Snapster beleives old men Paul and Brian will do ya proud. Now, now no tears please.

A comment only for snapster's eyes  Lady MO(NH).

Snapster can you please stop talking k#k for a even a brief moment. 

Thanks

 


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 20:24:46

Absolutely, MO.

Matt Stevens is the most bizarre of all of Gatland's selections though !!!


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
April 30, 2013, 22:43:24

Disagree on Warburton, he is a quality player and showed that in the match against England. Jamie Roberts is about the only quality 12 of the 4N, but his best days are past. Who else could play 12? Certainly not Darcy or Barritt.

 

Matt Stevens is a pathetic call, the man is fat and a liability in the scrums......I think every 4N's prop left out of the squad is better than him. I am not sure what they saw in Maitland to merit selection ahead of the likes of Zebo, Brown or Visser.

 

I see Wilko did not make himself available.

 

They have missed a trick not taking hard Scotsman, Hamilton - he is a better option than Parling or Evans.

 

Given the squad, my side would be: 15. Halfpenny 14. North 13. Tuilagi 12. Roberts 11. Cuthbert 10. [removed]ton 9. Philips 1. Jenkins 2. Hibbard 3. Cole 4. Alun-Wyn Jones 5. Gray 6. Croft 7. Warburton 8. Faletau 16.Youngs 17. Vinipola 18. O'Connell 19. Heaslip 20. Youngs 21. Farrell 22. Davies


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 14:56:41

Warburton is indeed a quality player when on form, he has not been on form for quite some time and that includes for his club. He had a good game against England but I fear he is prone to injury and will he make all the test matches. I hope he does well and stays injury free.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 21:55:44

warburton is a class player, but IMO gatland selected the best openside flankers up north with obrien and warburton.
warburtons form might have come into question at the start of the 6nats, but robshaws game started to deteriorate  as the 6nats rolled on. that eng/wales 6nats match was IMO the final seal on robshaws fate.

i think zebo is the unluckietst player, he should have been selected ahead of maitland.

i also think that eng/wales test made gatlands welsh biasdness more justified, though i dont really have a problem with most selections.

i really think the wallabies are going to win this series with a whitewash. lions players are good, but the wallabies players are better and in crazy form at the moment, perfect timing for the grueling test ahead.


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 22:13:33

 Sas the only glaring selection is Matt Stevens at prop. He is useless. 

 

I think they should have included the physically imposing and hard man Hamilton in the squad ahead of Evans or Parling


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 22:55:51

@[removed],
so ur not a fan of bieber and parling??? bieber i can uncerstand, cos bieber fever is IMO a serious medical condition, lolz,,, but parling???
i rate parling alot, i thought he had a great 6nats campaign and i would partner him up with oconnel in the lions test team.

i have a question though, will the test matches have a 23 man bench or a 22 man bench???
they had 23 man benches in the 6nats and for the EOYT and that will play a part in who gets selected.

my lions team from this lot would be,,,
1 cian healy, 2 tom youngs, 3 adam jones, 4 geoff parling, 5 richie gray, 6 tom croft, 7 sean obrien, 8 toby faletau, 9 mike phillips, 10 jonathan [removed]ton, 11 manu tuilagi, 12, jamie roberts 13 brian odriscoll (c), 14 george north, 15 stuart hogg
reserves
16 richard hibbard, 17 dan cole, 18 paul oconnel, 19 sam warburton, 20 ben youngs, 21 owen farrel, 22 leigh halfpenny


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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 23:18:23

I cant see how so many people leave Sean Maitland out. He must take the 14 jersey. Must remember, we playing on the fast, hard grounds of Aussie, not the damp, heavy grounds of the Northern hemisphere. Sean Maitland will be their best attacking weapon in those conditions. I also like the look of Jonathan Davies at 13. I think he offers more at this stage than Tuilagi and O' Driscoll.

Flyhalf for me will be a big challenge for them. Neither Farrell nor [removed]ton are great. I have a feeling this series will be won by the Lions 2-1 if not 3-0. They look a more settled bunch and will come out with a bullish gameplan. With so much being said of the Aussie backline, I think they need to get their forwards ready for this battle. Horwill needs to play and play well and Aussies might dominate.


Saffex

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
May 01, 2013, 23:32:36

I dont dislike Parling, just dont rate him that highly. Hamilton is better. It would be a big mistake starting Parling ahead of the likes Alun-Wyn Jones, Gray or O'Connell 


Ceradyne

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RE: british lions form 22,,,
July 06, 2013, 15:51:37

Could some of those who were slating Gatland please explain what exactly happened here? I am referring to those who said that he was a fool and those who said that he was biased towards Welsh players amd those who said that he had something against the England players. Those who were wringing their hands waiting for disaster to strike?


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