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Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 06, 2013, 13:47:26
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Ex Sport 24

Pretoria - Pierre Spies will lead an experienced Bulls side for their second friendly of the season when they face the Cheetahs in Polokwane on Saturday.

Spies has 89 Super Rugby caps for the Bulls and will take to the field with a team where only two players have not played Super Rugby.

Bulls coach Frans Ludeke made wholesale changes from the side that beat the Lions in Orlando last weekend, with only fullback Jürgen Visser remaining in the starting line-up with Frik Kirsten, Grant Hattingh, Arno Botha, Jano Vermaak, Ulrich Beyers and Lionel Mapoe playing off the bench.

Visser and loosehead prop Mornè Mellett are the only ones without Super Rugby experience, although Mellett toured with the Bulls last year.

The changed line-up will see a first appearance this season for almost all selected, something that was part of Ludeke’s planning.

This will mean that everyone in the squad will have a match under their belts when the competition starts. A lot of those players who played in Orlando will also play in the Vodacom Cup side, so have another opportunity to show their worth,” Ludeke said.

“We will have to be very wise this year in how we use our players. There is some nice depth in the squad, so we will be able to rotate players where and when needed.” (Again the realisation re the need to rotate - the penny has definitely dropped and should benefit the franchise concerned and the Boks)

Ludeke picked Lions loan player Callie Visagie on the bench after the Johannesburg rake recovered from a hamstring strain, while Japan-based Wynand Olivier will also play off the bench. He recently returned to the Bulls camp following the end of his club’s season in Japan.

Spies are one of a number of players who will be returning following a long lay-off due to injuries.

We are all keen to go out there and play. The start of the season is always eagerly awaited, as everyone is keen to see how much improvement came from the hard work put in during the off-season. A couple of us have not played in a while either, so there is a lot of anticipation and energy out there,” Spies said.

“We have played a lot of rugby together as a squad, so we should not suffer from pre-season blues too much. The Cheetahs will obviously not allow us some time to get into it slowly, so we will have to start the match focused.”

Pretty strong bulle side and should prove a handful for Cheetahs



15 Jürgen Visser, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Mornè Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (captain), 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Dewald Potgieter, 5 Juandrè Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Mornè Mellett

Substitutes: 16 Callie Visagie, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Grant Hattingh, 19 Arno Botha, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Ulrich Beyers, 22 Lionel Mapoe, 23 Wynand Olivier




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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 06, 2013, 16:23:23

This really is a joke - after Serfontein was by far the best Bulls player against the Lions - he is ommited completely from the Bulls team.

Maybe they have seen enough of Serfntein and wants to give the useless a run to see how thet shape up.   On th other hand playing for the Bulls at center comes at a high price - their management certainoly does not appreciate skilled players - they prefer the big ones - the less skills the better.

A girl will wet himself about Engelbrecht - but I undertake to give him a real istic and true description of his performances - but then he does not apprciate obective valuations and would rant and rave if I write something less favourable that expected.


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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 06, 2013, 23:58:53

Mike these are warm-up matches the purpose of which is to give the whole squad a run. The last match was effectively the Bulls B side. The side above is their A side. My guess is that Serfontein forced his way into the A side after his last performance.


As for your report on JJ, do you really expect me to believe you will be objective given your prejudice against the player. There is no doubt you will report back that JJ was useless!!


I'll wait for the S15 to start to pass judgement myself thank you.


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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 07, 2013, 00:27:01

A girl

Get this straight - I am not prejudiced against any player whatsoever.  I am looking at players objectively and without blinkers.  If they play well - I will admit it and if they deserve credit I always give it to them.  However, they must never expect accolades from me if they mess up or their performances are sub-standard.   That is the difference between the two of us.   When you likes a player you look at perhaps one incident in three matches to show they have done well and then base you whole assessment on that.

There is one thing though - I sometimes look at matches twice and have on occassion change my mind about players second time around.  In the first viewing you don;t know what will happen and perhaps lost sight of individual playes - in a second viewing you know what happened in a wider context and can follow specific players more carefully.

That is the real test for objectivity - and I have past that test often enough.


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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 07, 2013, 00:41:04

Wrong, if a player I rate has a poor game, I'll admit as much - Taute was not good against the AB's and I admitted as much - so dont make it up.


You are prejudicial against players - look no further than Jantjies


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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 07, 2013, 11:58:22

To see the talent coming through....

Blue Bulls team to play Limpopo


Ulrich Beyers

Travis Ismaiel

Dries Swanepoel (current Baby Bok squad)

Jan Serfontein (current Baby Bok squad)

Sampie Mastriet

Handre Pollard (current Baby Bok squad)

Rudy Paige


Nardus Van der Walt

Jacques du Plessis (current Baby Bok squad)

Roelof Smit (current Baby Bok squad)

Cornell Hess

Paul Willemse

Steph[removed] Pretorius

Bongi Mbonambi

Justin Forwood (current Baby Bok squad)


Standout name on the bench is new signing from KZN in full-back Jesse Kriel. A schoolboy last year like Pollard.



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RE: Spies to lead Bulle against Cheetahs
February 07, 2013, 12:06:15

A girl

Me prejudiced?  No on your life.   I look at performances and if players under-perform I will never give them credit. You give credit to them irrespectiive of bad play - as a matter of saafact you turn [removed] into ice cream in some cases.


That Vodacoom Cup side is miraculous - especially Serfonntein - who to my mind is very near to the top no12 in SA at present.   Hope the match is televised live. 

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