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Saffex

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Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 01:56:42

There are two certainties a) Jean is done and should no longer be involved in the Bok set-up b) de Jongh is no test centre, not physically able to impose himself on attack or in defence.

 

What do we have to work with? In Frans Steyn we have an established test star who at 25 has many years of quality rugby left in him. He was good in 2012 and we should see more of the same and even better this year. So we have our 12 sorted in Frans.

 

The art is now finding a partner for him and the options are numerous. Leading into 2013, it would appear that Jan Serfontein might just be the answer. He made a massive impression for the Baby Boks, got little opportunity in the CC and has now announced his arrival with a mouth watering performance in the Bulls S15 warm up match. Lets just hope the Bulls play him this S15 for we need to see him tested. He is a 12 that is equally at home at 13.

 

The other prime candidates are Taute, Jordaan, JJ Engelbrecht and de Allende. Taute will sadly probably be wasted at 15 for the Stormers but this does not prevent the Boks using him at 13. Jordaan is a class act and should get plenty of game time at 13 for the Sharks as should JJ for the Bulls. de Allende looks a real talent who is equally at home at 12 or 13.

 

Outsiders who wont get much S15 game time sadly are Pat Howard and JP du Plessis of the Stormers. It will also be interesting to see how Sadie goes with the Cheetahs - he should get plenty of time on the park.

 

So could Meyer think outside the box and select a 12. Frans 13. Serfontein centre combo - certainly worth serious consideration


Sharkbok

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 02:53:11

It is looking like the most center depth in years at the moment. 

Perhaps some of the younger players have also noticed that SA teams have been fielding too many one-dimensional crash ball centers, and have stepped up on the skills. Serfontein is allready looking better at 19 than most bok centres over the last 10-15 years.

 

Frans Steyn should be a certain starter 12, with Jordaan at 13. 

They will have had most of the SuperXV to have formed a center combination. 

Serfontein is the logical choice for the bench as he can cover both center positions. 

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Johan Sadie may come back into the reckoning and Tim Whitehead could be an outside option due to his specialist inside center experience. 

Sadie just needs to forget about the Bulls experience last year, and get back to his 2011 form and then he will be a contendor for the boks again.

Sadie at his best is a much better option at 13 on attack than Taute-who just looks cumbersome and slow of the mark with little step to speak of and little sign of a passing game. He reminds me of Jorrie Muller when playing at 13, hopefully he will be better at 15. Although is the current number 13 at the Cheetas not one of the better players and vice captain. Perhaps Sadie can play inside center as well.

Missie Oliver can play at 12 for the Bulls initially with Serfontein at 13, but during the season both Missie and especially Morne Steyn need to be phased out.

Morne sooner than later. Morne is the type of player that had his best games behind a winning pack, and the Bulls pack of 2013 will not provide that platform. Instead Pollard should become the incumbent at 10.

Not sure about JJ but expect that if Serfontein is not playing 12, he is going to be on the bench for most of the season.

Delande needs to start at 12 and stay there. Jean Devilliers can offer more at 13 where his passing game is less required. Likewise with JP and Howard, they need to get game time through the season at 13. 

Dejong can cover wing or just be a utility back on the bench. Dejong lacks the skills to get his wings into the game, and given that JDV is not the best passer around these 2 are like watching paint dry. 

The Stormers have the most depth at center so they will have plenty of time to rotate the bench


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 05:55:21

Saffex

In essence I agree with you about the center situation.   I also believe that De Villiers should be phased out as a matter of importance - especially since he will be 32 years old this year and not really a candidate for the future - that is for the 2015 WC.    Mozart and some others will argue that he actually was the best performer as center in 2012 - which he in fact was - but that is history and we need to think of the future here.

Francois Steyn

In essence Francois Steyn should be the answer at 12 and I thought that when he became available in 2012 we would have a major weapon at 12 against the English and in the Championship tests.   However, he really was performance wise in some ways disappointing - even though you and some othes disagreed.   There could have been a reason for that and that is that he played outside a non-performing flyhalf in Morne Steyn.    The latter never was an attacking flyhalf - he always stood too deep in the pocket and was a kicker more than a passer of balls.    That left Francois Steyn in a difficult situation - since he too was forced into standing too deep.   He consequently received balls with defenders virtually on top of him and had very few options available to him.    In the process tje nly real option available to him was enfoced crashballing.

However, there was some occassions where he did have a bit more space an that is where he was osmewhat disappointing.    He showed some negatives by running rather slowly straight at the opposite defender, thus not trying to draw defenders towards him - and he virually never passed or off-loaded balls effectively in tackle situations.   In view of the very tight situation insofar as defece is concernced - the latter elelments are very important in the inside center position in particular and when it is absent it really is a negative.

In essence Steyn in 2012 was really somewhat one-dimensional if you look at mtach statistics.   In essence he passed only 20% of he balls rhe received to his center partner or tried to kick vey unsucessfully - two of the rare kicks were very poor and landed his team in serious trouble.   The rest of the balls he handled (80%) he crashballed - often enough on or behind the gain line.

The question remains  whether the latter play was the result of him playing outside of Morne Steyn and forced upon him - or whether he himself developed negative tendencies..   I think that Sten himself will have to show whether he has still the abilities required of an attacking inside center in him and whether he will overcome the negative tendencies observable in his performances in the tests in 2012.   He has an excellent opportunity to prove that he can still be regarded as an efective attacking weapon in the Springbok backline.   In Super 15 - where defence is normally less tight than in tests and opponents are frequently not players on international level - he can really show whether he still is an attacking center option.   

Steyn in Super 15 will play outside of Lambie - who as a very skillful player is much more attack-orientated and a much better passer of the ball.   If Steyn in such circumstances showed the same tendencies as he did in tests in 2012 - we really will be faced with a problem in our quest to have a more effective backline operation.   80% crashballing will definitely not be acceptable.    A further positive will be that Spencer is the backline coach for the Sharks - and he is very likely to be in a position to get Steyn up to standard as to attacking center play.

Although I on this site often enough played devil's advocate and tried to provoke discussion - I am afraid there really was some negatives in Steyn's performances and he needs to cut it out before he can be regarded as an automatic future selection.   If those negatives persist in 2013 Super 15 - we would be in a really sticky situation and may be forced to look at other alternatives.

Serfontein

To my mind Serfontein is the classic no 12 center - powerful in running and illusive to boost.   He has a very good in off-loading capacity in tackle situations and is an excellent passer of the ball.   At 19 years of age - he already is the full package insofar as inside center play is concerned.   I believe he is the best center coming through that we have had in a decade and proved that at age of 18 when he was the player of the series in the Under 20 WC in 2012.

The Bulls did use him in their Under 21 team in 2012 and he played a major role in the said championships.   He was only used on CC-level in one game - namely the game at Newlands against WP - and in that game he was part of a bad overall team display and did not show much.

One thing about Serfontein I am unsure about is his ability to play at 13.  In all the games he played in he always played at 12 - that applies to both the Under 20 WC - as well as in the Bulls under 21 team.   Technically it will on paper be possible to assume that he would be able to play at 13 as well as he does at 12 - but there are differences between playing at 13 and playing at 12.    Those differences can be seen in the difference in performances of a player like De Villiers in 2012 - he was a much better player at 12 than he was at 13.  Will Serfontein be equally good at 13 - nobody really can say or assume that he will be - he will have to play at 13 to show whether he really is.

Should Steyn not live up to expectations - I think Serfontein will definitely be the answer at 12.  He to my mind remains our best hope for a more effective attaking bakline.

Taute

Taute  has all the physical abilities we can expect from a center - and although he did play well in the Under 20 WC as a 13 - he never played at center for over 2 years since then and did not show up well enouh when moved from full back to center after playing for virtuallyt wo years only as a full back.   I think that was recognized by the player himself - as well as Meyer and Coetzee and will play exlusively for the Stormers at full back this year.    You are correct in what you said when you mentioned "Taute will sadly probably be wasted at 15 for the Stormers but this does not prevent the Boks using him at 13".  Meyer will however definitely noit pick him at center - without some really recent proven abilities in that position and for the time being I cannot see how he would be in contention for selection.

Jordaan

Being a smallish  player Jordaan probably has the best skills set of all SA players that played at 13 in 2012 - as you said he is a class act.   Jordaan has also shown sme exceptional abilities when he played  at 12 opposite SBW in the Super 15 final against the Chiefs.   However, I view him primarily as a 13.   I think aside from his skills - he has another advantage over all the other players mentioned and that is the speed factor - he really is a speed merchant.   Persnally I think he is obviously not as strong a runner as some bigger players - but he is a slippery customer and hence a very good prospect.

Another aspect of his game is his tendency to go and look for work and thus helped his team in all kinds of ways.   I can remember in particular two incidents wher it played a major roll in the outcomes of games.  Both happpened in games against the balls  He went in and successuly wrestled the ball loose from maul situations.  In one case he himself scored a try and in the other case it resulted in the scoring of one of the most spectacular tries scored by any SA team in 2012.

I would really like to see how he develops in 2013 and if he keeps up his performances in 2013 to my mind he really should be the automatic selection at 13.

De Allende

This player was really the surprise package that came forth during the 2012 CC games.   The first real glimpse of him was when he was brought on from the bench as a wing in a few CC games - my own question was "who the hell is he?"   He never really played on Under 20 level and was an unknown quantity - but not for long.  he soon enough showed on the wing a remarkable try-scoring ability.

He is physically a big man - but also very speedy and a strong runner.   Basically the biggest surprise was that he was selected by Coetzee at 12 in the CC final.   He had a very good game and showed very good skills in all aspects of center play.   In reading up on him I found that the Under 20 WP coach thought that he is such a good player that he himself will decide whether he wans to be a Springbok or not - a very high accolade by all accounts.

What position should De Allende play in?   He was excellent on the wing and equally good at 12.  That being the case the assumption is made that he will be good at 13 as well - but we will not know until it is proven as such.   We may get a glimpse of his abilities at 13 in the warm up game on Saturday when he is likely to play at 13.

I think that De Allende is also a class act.   Personally I would like to see a center grouping of Serfotnein, Jordaan and De Allende as our centers of the future - the fact being that Serfotnen is only 19 years of age and the other two 20 year-olds.  

Other Centers mentioned

I think the others will have to prove that they can in fact compete with the star three - Serfontein, Jordaan and De Allende - and there is no indication that they will be in fact competitive.

I believe that Meyer should take the bull by the horns and use the three star playes in the June tests and forget about the present players - who have all shown some negatives already.   They with Goosen and Lambie around and with Habana and Pietersen on the wing will to my mind produce the most attacking Springbok backline we  have seen in the past 20 years.  If Taute gets his act together at full back - we will have the real McCoy to admire.

           

             


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:12

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:15

Sorry - something really problematic happened here - the wholesystem kept on duplicating the previous posting


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:16

Sorry - something really problematic happened here - the wholesystem kept on duplicating the previous posting

 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:26

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:26

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:26

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:28

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:28

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:28

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:29

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:29

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:29

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:30

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:30

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:30

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:31

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:31

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:31

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:32

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:32

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:32

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:33

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:33

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:33

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:34

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:34

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:34

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:35

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:35

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:35

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:36

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:36

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:36

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:37

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:37

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:37

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:38

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:38

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:38

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:39

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:39

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:39

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:40

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:40

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:40

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:41

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:41

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:41

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:42

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:42

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:42

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:43

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:43

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:43

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:44

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:44

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:44

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:45

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:45

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:45

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:46

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:46

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:46

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:47

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:47

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:47

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:48

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:48

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:48

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:49

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:49

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:49

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:50

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:50

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:50

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:51

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:51

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:51

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:52

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:52

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:52

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:53

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:53

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:53

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:54

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:54

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:54

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:55

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:55

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:55

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:56

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:56

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:57

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:57

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:57

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:58

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:58

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:58

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:59

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:08:59

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:00

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:00

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:01

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:01

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:02

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:02

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:03

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:03

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:03

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:04

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:04

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:05

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:05

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:06

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:06

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:06

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:07

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:07

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:07

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:07

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:08

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:08

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:09

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:09

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:09

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:09

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:10

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:10

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:10

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:11

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:11

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:11

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:12

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:12

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:12

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:13

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:13

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:13

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:14

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:14

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:15

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:15

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:15

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:16

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:17

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:18

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:19

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:20

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:21

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:22

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:23

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:24

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:25

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:26

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:26

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:27

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 06:09:28

Sharkbok

Looking at the De Villiers - De Jongh center combination in Super 15 in 2012 - you have found the best description imaginable - it was like watching paint dry.   That could not be said of the Scottish and English tests  though.   In those two tests De Jongh went AWOL and I had to study minute after minute where he was on the field of play - he definitely was never where he was supposed tto be..

De Jongh as a small player - has one real deficiency - he does not have the skill set that would off-set his small physique.   He should never have been a Springbok - just not good enough for the job.   His real abilities are clearly illustrated by his stats and the fact that he is totally ineffective in attacking play. 


Sharkbok

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 08:39:47

@Clevermike, I see that you agreed on the "watching paint dry" center combination metaphor.


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 11:01:42

Sharkbok

I don't know what happened on the computer when I posted that comment on your contribution   .It just keep duplicating the message.   

What do you think about my comments to Saffx about his suggested centers.   I remain worried about Francois Steyn and am serious when I said he showed some deficienies in performance in the tests and his real contribution was in fact to crashball in the hope that we reccover the ball for Morne to kick away.   From an attacking backline point of view his contribution was near to zero.

It really bothers me and I think that we will be forced to look elsewhere if he showed similar tendencies as he did in Super 15 this year.    Hope he does not - but that remains to be seen. . 


Jalapeno!

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 11:16:49
Ou Maaik, step away from the submit button!


Beeno1

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 11:24:28

Ditto rooinek!

Mike I think there is reason to be hopeful re Frans.  I feel pretty sure he will be fitter this year and he will be playing in a functional backline. If Frans can create some space for gasman Jordaan the sharks will thrive.

One also forgets those massive long distance kicks.  Free State sure lost a great rugby player to the guppies - one of many of course.


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 11:59:05

Jalap

Sorry - but I pressed the submit button once.  and then waited for a very long time for th message to be posted.   What came up was ten times the problem jauzy had yesterday as well.   I asked the editor to remove the repetitions though.

Beeno

Hope Steyn does get better than he was in 2012.   My problem with the long distance kicks is that it works at a succeess rate of not more than 20%  of the time.   Maybe we can do better by kicking for the corner than by trying to get a long distance penalty slotted with such a low success rate.

Be it as it may - if Steyn proves to be ineffective as an attacking center - and he has plenty of oportunities to show otherwise - Meyer can always pick Serfornetin or De Allende at 12 and forget about him.

 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 16:23:35

LMAO, was wondering what the fudge was going on, 200+ comments with only 100+ views, :oP

 

i thought the system had finally overloaded from from beenos mindless rambalings and devloped math skills to mirror beenos own, LMAO, :oP


clevermike

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RE: Our centre situation
February 05, 2013, 17:12:19

Sasue

Sure thing - I thought Beeno had something to do with the malfunction.  After all he suffers fromm verbal diarrhea you know - problem it is also fairy tale delusional.  LOL


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