The Ruckers Forum

Forum » Rugby » General Stuff » Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
Login to reply
 
 
 
3615 Topic: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
Sharkbok

Status: Senior player
Posts: 3582
Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 09:59:33

Jan Serfontein © Gallo Images

Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma



The pre-season performance of a number of young stars – and especially midfielder Jan Serfontein – has reignited the selection dilemma that Vodacom Bulls coach Frans Ludeke faces this season.

Ludeke has publicly admitted that his approach in 2012 wasn’t the correct one, erring on the side of conservatism with his senior players and not giving his youth brigade a start.

Louis Fouche for instance, played the entire season behind Morne Steyn, not getting a look-in at a starting role. The policy also saw the exodus of CJ Stander, one of the brightest prospects now plying his trade in Ireland, who couldn’t hold down a starting place despite some incredible form.

Saturday’s pre-season win against the Lions has only underlined the shift in policy that is needed at the Bulls, and one that Ludeke fully realises. But how to manage this dilemma will be a telling part of how the Bulls do in the competition this year.

Jan Serfontein is clearly an incredible talent. The IRB Junior Player of the year excels at every challenge given to him thus far and on Saturday looked head and shoulders above his peers once again. His combination with Lionel Mapoe could develop into a masterstroke, while Handre Pollard’s arrival on the field upped both the tempo at a crucial time in the game.

Both these players are clearly set for higher things in future and it won’t be long until we see both Serfontein and Pollard in the Green and Gold if they continue at this rate. Given the success of the Stormers’ youth campaign over the past two seasons, it leaves Ludeke will a quandary on selection.

This weekend’s game against the Toyota Cheetahs in Polokwane is likely to see Wynand Olivier return to the midfield with either Francois Venter or JJ Engelbrecht, while Ludeke may decide to give the two young stars a run off the bench to see how they slot in among the bigger names in the team.

The Bulls know all too well how important their opener against the Stormers is in terms of setting the standard for the season, and with this in mind, it won’t be surprising if Ludeke opts for the more experienced hands in the opening match.

But the reality is now that there are others knocking, and Ludeke will have to take notice in bringing the young talent through.

The coach was happy with the hitout, which also saw good performances by the likes of Jurgen Visser, Jano Vermaak, Arno Botha, Sampie Mastriet and Grant Hattingh.

“A win always is good because you get a reward for the hard work, but we know it is nothing more than a warm-up game,” Ludeke said. “The competition starts in three weeks and that is where we want to be at our best. There are definitely some areas we need to work on, like ball retention and making better decisions.”

“We need a squad of players who can push each other during this game, and he is one of them. He put up his hand today. The players have set high standards for themselves this season and have worked hard in the off-season.”

Ludeke will know after the second pre-season clash where exactly his squad stands ahead of the opening game, and then some tough choices will have to be made.

Timing and mentoring will be crucial for the young talent in the squad, but then again, as Serfontein proved again on Saturday, if you’re good enough, you’re old enough.


Sharkbok

Status: Senior player
Posts: 3582
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 10:00:03

 Is CJ Stander going to try play for Ireland?


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 11627
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 10:25:20

Sharkbok tough one for Ludeke to manage but start off using them off the bench and dont over play them. Its no use Jan starting for the bulle and then because he is doing well playing him every match. Ease him in.

Can the body at 19 be ready for Super 15 is what the issue is. Wonder what Prof Noakes would say on this matter.

No ways should the bulle have lost CJ. What a mess was made of that one! Meyer must lure him back.
Sharkbok currently it looks like he will play for Ireland!  Big bucks beckon.

I think a strategy must be divised whereby assistance is given from the SARFU perhaps to stop us loosing forever top young talent. CJ looks to be history.


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12516
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 11:22:29

Ludeke is as thick as a brick.  He has Serfontein to use and he will play Wynand Olivier.    Bearing in mind his skills set and the fact that he is an early developer - I would play Serfontein ahead of Olivier all the time.   Maybe Ludeke should move Olivier to 13 - since he has serious problems at 1 - where Engelbrecht flopped badly on CC level and Mapoe is no center - but a wing.

The difference is that he also will keep on with Morne Steyn and give Fouche and Pollard no real opportunities.  The latter two has potential - but is very near in playing style to Morne - limiting to my mind their future development as comprehensive players at flyhalf.   With their backline coach -in mind that is where the promising two youngsters will go.

Thick as a brick is an understaement - anyone that prefer the donkey Potgiters to Stander is thicker than that.   What a farce Ludeke made of that one.


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12516
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 11:22:30

Ludeke is as thick as a brick.  He has Serfontein to use and he will play Wynand Olivier.    Bearing in mind his skills set and the fact that he is an early developer - I would play Serfontein ahead of Olivier all the time.   Maybe Ludeke should move Olivier to 13 - since he has serious problems at 1 - where Engelbrecht flopped badly on CC level and Mapoe is no center - but a wing.

The difference is that he also will keep on with Morne Steyn and give Fouche and Pollard no real opportunities.  The latter two has potential - but is very near in playing style to Morne - limiting to my mind their future development as comprehensive players at flyhalf.   With their backline coach -in mind that is where the promising two youngsters will go.

Thick as a brick is an understaement - anyone that prefer the donkey Potgiters to Stander is thicker than that.   What a farce Ludeke made of that one.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8895
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 13:10:23

CJ Stander has said he is open to playing for Ireland, is on a two year contract and said he would see how things would go after 2 years.

 

Ludeke was a complete idiot for not playing him and forcing him to look for greener pastures. Meyer was a fool for not capping him in 2012, thereby securing his future services with the Boks.

 

Mike its a bit rich you calling Ludeke stupid given how stupid you are suggesting that Olivier move to 13 for the Bulls - talk about stupid and short sighetd, especially considering JJ proved his worth in the S15 at 13 and was rewarded with a test cap as a result. Only a complete idiot would move Olivier to 13 at the expense of JJ - I take it you qualify as an idiot - well we are talking centres here and we all know how much you know about centres - confirmed by the pathetic suggestion of moving Olivier to 13 - wake up man

 

Serfontein at 12 and JJ at 13 has the makings of the best centre combo in the competition

 


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12516
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 13:50:31

 

[removed]

You better wake up.  Engelbrecht made such a hash in CC games he played in by his atrocious perfoimances inn two games in particular (The Sharks and WP) and no-shows in most other games  - there are indeed serious doubts about his ability at play at center at all - maybe he will make it on the wing.   You cannot play a person who failed on CC level on higher levels and hope for success.

I am desperately keen to see Serfontein play at 12 - hence my suggestion as to Wynand Olivier and since both Mapoe and Engelbrecht are really wings - I think moving Olivier would really be the thing to do.    


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 11627
RE: Serfontein sparks Bulls selection dilemma
February 04, 2013, 13:57:05

Was the offer in ireland to good for Stander to refuse. The situation is pathetic. Humble Bath can pay Louw more that he would get at WP. I heard they can earn more there even when the player concerned  has a Bok contract as well.

CJ was a good roving number 8 well suited to a running game.

Snapster JJ may have trouble at center and did in fact struggle at times. Yes he may succeed there but nothing to date assures one that  is is certain. Mike is correct to have concerns.

The flyhalf issue is a nice one to have. The youngsters will press Morne. Nothing is cast in stone. Pollard is of course extremely young.  If nothing else this season will show if 19 /20 year olds can play Super 15. Will it become a new norm. I doubt it. The exception proving the rule.

Mapoe at 87 kg is going to have to show a bit more.   Can he take it physically against the bigger centers one encounters these days. Given he can also play wing he is a useful addition to the bulle.


Leave a reply:

You need to be logged in to leave a reply.
 
 

From The Sideline