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bluebok

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Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 13:59:18

Maybe I stand alone on this, but I really can't read another thread featuring [removed] and Mozart slinging COMPLETELY RUGBY UNRELATED crap at each other. We get it guys, seriously we do! You don't like each other! More importantly, nobody cares if one of you is a ball hair taller than the other, or who is fatter, older, smarter etc etc! Seriously, I am convinced that some new blogger that happened to log on here for the first time would leave straight away, convinced that he had been tricked by some viral link on a rugby site, onto a board where grown men compete viciously to see who has the biggest peepee!

 

With the exception of Jalapino, Boklogic, Denny, Beans and a couple of others who reply out of what can only be boredom, I think I speak for most of the bloggers when I say...we don't give a Rats Ass!!!


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 15:24:24

 The reason why I do not participate anymore.  Clearly the admins of this site are as brain dead as are the posters who enjoy the clap-trap between two equally dumb posters.  WTF has some poster' height, weight, hairline or age got to do with rugby.  It is quite clear that they are immensely board with life and either have no friends or can find nothing constructive to keep themselves busy.

What a shame that two supposedly grown-ups [removed] the message board up for many a serious poster.  Oh and then there is the other drooling halfwit who speaks about himself in the third person..what a twat.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 15:28:24

That is why I would never contribute on this board. Luckily the other place has none of this nonsense anymore.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 15:28:27

That is why I would never contribute on this board. Luckily the other place has none of this nonsense anymore.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 15:44:27

taipan

I have been pleading to sop the crap - but it keeps on and on.   Evn when he topic starts off as rugby-related it gets hijacked and turned into crap.   Sorry to see you do not want to participaye on th site.   There are rugby lovers here that do try and make contributions towards healthy debate.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 15:52:56

theres a very simple soloution, dont read it.

 

i read most their arguments, not all but if im not in the mood to read it and just want some rugger debates then guess what??? i dont read it, its a very simple tactic which works wonders for me, :oP

this message is proudly brought to u by simple common sense, LMAO, :oP (just kidding boys, but i couldnt help myself),,, :o)


Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:09:19

Yes I think its got boring and should cease.

Ou bedpan just loves this stuff and creates the same type of nonsense on his homeboard so his post is complete sanctimonius twaddle. We can be thankful he is scarce around here Mike be sure of that.

 

 


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:16:11

That simple solution appears too complicated for some. I mean seriously, it's not hard to figure out which strings are not rugby related. Take the Andy Murray vs Dumpy Dave string.....by far the most popular string on the Board, maybe ever.  How hard is it to work out this is not about rugby. But still chaps open it up and moan about it.

 

There are no space limits for rugby posts. No requirement to participate in non rugby strings. And believe me, nobody is frightened away by these strings.

 

This site is hopping....it was dead as a doornail in mid December. Super Supporter that Taipan/Bongo Bongo touts is as dead as a doornail. They seem to have about as much traffic as we had last year this time. This site was kick started by many of the posters you are complaining about Bluebok.

 

And with considerable experience of these sites, I'm convinced more traffic translates into  more vibrant rugby discussions. But there is only so much one can say about the pre season.....only so many greatest hooker of all time threads one can start. Most of these invented rugby threads sink like a stone.

 

I'm not trying to be snide about all this. But we will turn to rugby when it starts....in the meantime, it's no harm, no foul.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:17:44

@taipan57,

thank u for ur contribution about how u would never contribute to this forum, LMAO, :oP

 

cmon bro, u gotta admit that was funny, u really shouldnt make it so easy, :oD


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:20:28

Spot on Moz!


Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:45:44

saSUE bedpan (Taipan 57 ) is not the sharpest pencil in the box as you have quickly realised.

I do agree that the threads have been clear what they are about and if you dont like it butt out has to be the rule.

That said try and keep the blows up. When things get too bitter they lose their allure.

The website is getting more and more activity. It is amazing how active the site has been over this very quiet time.

 

 


bluebok

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:55:45

I don't believe it, Saff and Moz agreed about something....cold weather clothes people, its gonna snow! With a title like "Andy Murray vs Dumpy Dave" you are right, it is obvious where that is going and I have no problem with that at all, but I do have a problem with every single RUGBY RELATED thread being hi-jacked and becoming a mud slinging match, with the same mud! I'd even be happy if you guys could come up with something new to argue about, but every thread lands up with the same argument. I know you both get where I am coming from, so please don't argue with me just for the sake of it....even though you can. I have been part of the mud slinging in the past myself, and I actually enjoy the banter, but this whole weight, height, age thing is just unoriginal.

 

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bluebok

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:56:32

I don't believe it, Saff and Moz agreed about something....cold weather clothes people, its gonna snow! With a title like "Andy Murray vs Dumpy Dave" you are right, it is obvious where that is going and I have no problem with that at all, but I do have a problem with every single RUGBY RELATED thread being hi-jacked and becoming a mud slinging match, with the same mud! I'd even be happy if you guys could come up with something new to argue about, but every thread lands up with the same argument. I know you both get where I am coming from, so please don't argue with me just for the sake of it....even though you can. I have been part of the mud slinging in the past myself, and I actually enjoy the banter, but this whole weight, height, age thing is just unoriginal.

 

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bluebok

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 16:58:44

Sorry about the double post ladies! Just FYI...only two more weeks to go, and we can forget about all this and actually enjoy some Super Rugby!

 

Bring it!


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 17:04:09

Familiar things can take on a different aspect. This is one of my favourite quotes. I read it first in The Magus by John Fowles, but it's actually TS Eliot in "Little Gidding".

 

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

 


Jalapeno!

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 17:19:05

Moffie, stop lying and stop trying to justify your pathetically childish behaviour. When did the title of a thread stop you from banging on about your stupid obsession with Dave's height? There were a few threads last week which had titles about measuring centres and centre performance that you totally destroyed with your usual juvenile blabbering about Dave's height, Dave's weight, Dave's hair, Dave's clothes and all the normal drivel that you churn out endlessly.

 

You might also want to have word in the ear of your Alpha-Gimp. Go read what Dense had to say on a thread titled "Six Nations" and tell us how much his comments had to do with rugby . . . not that Dense ever talks about rugby . . . but either way, if you and your Servile Gimps stop polluting rugby-titled threads with your pathetic garbage, I think everyone will be grateful.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 17:22:56
Oh shame it's the humiliated RooiAAS. Still stinging from yesterday, but I trust you passed my best wishes to Mrs Jalapeno/RooAAS.


Jalapeno!

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 17:32:27

Stinging? Ummm . . . did you throw any blows yesterday, Moffie? Sorry, I didn't notice, I just remember you not knowing who Medusa was.

 

Now stop trying to change the subject in your usual cowardly style and answer the question . . when did the title of a thread stop you from squealing and squawking about your childish obsession? 


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 17:48:11

Actually RooiAAS you need to find new material. And try to not reproduce one post of mine about 50 times......it's boring. At the moment Dumpy Dave is a lot more fun.....Best to your fellow office workers, who are probably wondering why you are kicking your cubicle.


Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 19:12:44

Moz you are loosing it. You cant be suggesting ou rooitwit is gainfully employed!!!

 


Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 19:55:42

Here is a [removed] joke - [removed] is so short that when he smokes a joint he doesnt get high he gets medium!

Sorry snapster as I am sure you have heard this before.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:03:05

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:05:37

Here is a [removed] joke - [removed] is so short that when he smokes a joint he doesnt get high he gets medium!

Sorry snapster as I am sure you have heard this before.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:13:41

 

pla·gia·rize

 verb ?pl?-j?-?r?z also -j?-?-
pla·gia·rizedpla·gia·riz·ing

Definition of PLAGIARIZE

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: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
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Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:19:02

 dumbo I did not pass it off as my own. I did say [removed] will have read it before. Thereby identifying source and fact it was not my joke

Bwaahahahhaha what a halfwit.

Hawker cage the monkey he is gving you oaks a bad name. 

 


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:20:59

 Identity theft is also a crime.

 

E.G. Using someone else's name to pretend you have a CA.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 20:54:46

Apparently Bedpan doesn't understand "I'm sure you have heard this before". So he comes on here and tries to pick a silly, little fight. I thought all was sweetness and light on SS, but from his behaviour in his first few posts, he is missing a little red meat. The only problem is, he forgets that he's the road kill.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 21:08:01

 Coming from the guy who force fed Denny oysters to get into his pants.

 

Still in the closet?


Beeno1

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 21:15:39

 Moz I would give ou bedpan a break if he could behave reasonably but he is the biggest twit I have met on a rugby website and any chances of him behaving like a normal human being are very slim. I know he gets on the nerves of posters on ss board and wonder how desparate they are that he is not given the boot.

I see he is quickly onto his favourite subject.  

He always ended in tears and of course there is no ignore button here. Hahahahahahahaha

Bedapn see a shrink it may help?

 


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 21:19:17

So the three big men here are:

 

The CA pretender

The closet [removed]

Amd the apartheid spy.

 

Whats the bet the mod is already inundated with complaints. Some things never change.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 22:17:21

No some things never change, you for instance.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 22:20:20

Yep, what you see is what you get. Your declared reason for leaving Supersupporter was over modding and the moving deletion of threads but you are strangely silent on the censorship on this forum.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 22:45:32

Oh that's interesting, in another thread you claim I left becuase I was whipped by a guy who falsely called himself a fireman. Seems you are getting caught in your own underwear.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 22:50:13

As Said at the time that was your excuse.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 22:52:09

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'Hawkeye', on 22 Dec 2011 - 12:21, said:

Sorry guys - one hell of a storm robbed me of the ADSL. So it' back to HSDPA.

Firstly, it is really sad that any poster leaves or has left or will leave; that is certainly not the intent. However that being said the board (the rugby forum) was heading for disaster. I received many requests during the few days that the long winded argument was raging on the rugby forum to do something to it. Well in fairness the requests to "handle" it far outweighed the other side.

I am sorry Moz decided to leave because he could not call the shots and make the rules to suit him. It was his choice as an adult and I am sure one he made with due consideration and taking the consequences into account. The same applies to a lesser extent to the decision Denny made to follow his idol.

There will be no poll as to who wants them back because that is irrelevant - you cannot decide for them if or when they want to come back. Both are welcome back to the board but like everyone else they will have to accept the rules.

Threads that are clearly not rugby related and are placed here with the intent to cause flaming or baiting (like Denny's lament) will be moved. I will leave a link to the new residence so it will not be difficult to follow.

What I cannot fathom is that none of the other forums or sub forums struggle with the same thing, why is it just the rugby guys who insist that they plonk liquorish all-sorts here on the Rugby forum?

At exactly 13h00 this thread to will be moved to the General section - I think it has served its purpose and Moz has now got the reactions he wanted.


One can never achieve anything if your intention is to hold the board hostage to a degree because you are unhappy with the way it runs.

I personally think it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the moving of posts, that is a feeble and imature excuse to want to leave a board. 

I think his big ego took a massive klap, something he may not be used to. although he should be, given his accomplishments.

Denny.............. Moz............ I have no doubt at all that both of you will be reading this................ so

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That's the same way as I see it TC. I also have no doubt they will be lurking. 
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mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 23:19:21

Nice. So that shows we left. It says we could come back if we obeyed the rules. But within minutes of me leaving I was cut off and couldn't even log onto the site, which I was trying to do to reply to messages. I never had any intention of ever returning.

 

The precise reason I left was because TC put up a long post attacking me, it was left up all day, but the moment I replied  in US time, the post was moved to the cellar. No amount of complaint was going to move the dictator, who was reacting to what he claimed was a Board consensus....but didn't have the courage to put to a vote.

 

So I just said Sayonara. After that Barlee approached me, only to then be bullied into not following up on the suggestions he solicited.

 

A low episode all round, but one which I only reflect on when turds like you try to damage this site. It must gall you all, after all the mockery, to see the thing now surpassing your own dead site. But hey, that's life.


taipan57

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 23:26:06

 So you left in a fit of pique. Nice.

Actually I had no intention of posting on this forum but then I was advised that the sub human was accusing me of being someone called Bongani so I decided to set the record straight.


Sharkbok

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 23:30:55

 "Andy Murray vs Dumpy Dave string.....by far the most popular string on the Board, maybe ever."

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Moz, 

It depends how you define popular. 

If it is only 3 posters using childish insults on each other over and over, like " your fat, your old, your even fatter, your the fattest, I am short, you are short".  That is more like sending texts rather than a dialogue of any sophistication.

 


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 23:34:37

No I left under perfect control, wished my friends well and headed for the exit. Everything was honest and above board, no politicking, no false names.....just a straight forward departure to greener pastures. Unlike Lot's wife, I never looked back. You're happy, I'm happy....see you when I see you.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 30, 2013, 23:58:02

Point taken Shark. Winning ugly I suppose.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 11:55:37
mozart

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RE: Mozart vs [removed]
January 30, 2013, 22:45:32

Oh that's interesting, in another thread you claim I left becuase I was whipped by a guy who falsely called himself a fireman. Seems you are getting caught in your own underwear.

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Do you really want to start this again?

I am not here to slag anyone, nor get involved with unecessary mudslinging, I've been reading here since last year, just have no desire to post here, as with SS, just don't have the time.

I suggest you retract the above statement, I have made it very clear to you before that this is extremely easy to prove from my side.

 


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 11:59:57

You made it very clear in a moment of honesty that you were never a fireman, only a part time volunteer. Are you saying you never said that?


TC-Fireman

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 12:09:32

The very first time I discussed this with you, I openly admitted I was a volunteer fireman to you, and to every one else as a matter of fact.

Here it is:

'TCFireman', on 19 Jan 2011 - 11:29, said:

Sorry Moz, been away for a bit.

Not active for a long time now, but was a volunteer for 6 years.

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You replied:

'mozart', on 19 Jan 2011 - 20:15, said:

You've done more than most TC....that was hard and dangerous work.

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So please explain my "Moment of Honesty", when I said this straight away, nothing was hidden from anyone.


mozart

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 12:16:44

I beg to differ. I had acknowledged your Fireman status years before.....on another Board I believe. For years you left the distinct impression you were a professional Fireman. You could have knocked me over with a feather when you said you were a volunteer. Nothing wrong with being a volunteer, as I pointed out, but certainly not the impression you created.


TC-Fireman

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 12:41:53

For the record, I have never disclosed what I did before, or years before, as you say. The only other site I went on besides Supersupporter was Supersport and I did not

discuss what I did with anyone.  I only met you on Supersupporter.  We never ever spoke on Supersport, so you couldn't have ever acknowledged anything about me years ago and there

was never an impression to create this years ago, as I only met you on Supersupporter.

I was also a fulltime volunteer, not part time as you mentioned, 24 hrs a day for 6 years is fulltime commitment, not part time.

Be that as it may. 

Just stop with the accusations or insinuations about me and we will leave it at that.

 

 


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:00:47

Another major twit arrives -second only to bedpan.

Ou fireman who loves to add fuel to the fire. This twit worked successfully to get me banned for saying I hoped that the abs would be quaking in their boots when

they next played the Boks.

He linked this to the Christchurch incident ignoring the fact I had given my sincere condolences to the folk of Christchurch for all their pain etc.

Thew twit never ever apologised for his vile character asassination. Bad apple this one is. This is not an insinuation its a fact. Suck it up fireman! What a complete poop!

Needless to say when the smoke cleared I was yet again unbanned much to the chagrin of this cretin and his two pals who were beside themselves.  ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

With the arrival of ou bedpan and fireman we are scraping the barrel. ROTFL   We have about reached the lowest point. ROTFL 

 

 

 


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:03:36

We posted together with guys like Harvey. At that time I made positive comments about your Fireman status. You never qualified anything. Then much later you produced the distinction between a volunteer and a Fireman.  For years I had the impression you were a Fireman....and you still call yourself a Fireman and you haven't been active for how long? That's what I mean by "falsely called himself a Fireman". Leaving a false impression uncorrected over a long period of time, suggests you didn't want to correct the false impression. Apparently you still don't.


TC-Fireman

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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:36:09

I don't remember ever having spoken to you at all, or received messages from you, unless your name was different.  I met you for the very first time on Supersupporter.

Moz, what exactly is the distinction between a 24 hour a day fulltime volunteer fireman for 6 years, or a career orientated fireman of 6 years.  They do the exact same practical and theoretical training together.  They write the exact same exams together, and they suffer the exact same daily / weekly rigorous training regimes, and the also get hit emotionally and phsically with the toils of the job.

Whether you are a volunteer or career fireman, you fail the theory test, you are out, you fail the fitness test, you are out, you fail to respond to the calls, you are dimissed.

My first infant rescue was an 18 month old boy who I rescued from a shack fire in a informal settlement.  He had been stabbed 17 - 19 times, he was force fed parrafin, and then thrown into the shack after the mother's boyfriend had poured parrafin all over the shack, and lit it, to accelerate the fire.  All this because he was not the biological father of this boy and had enough of him and the mother.  The mother was lying outside the shack unconcious, but the baby was inside.

That was a long time ago, and he is quite a bit older now.  I wonder how he would feel if he realised that it was "just a volunteer" fireman who saved him that day, and not a fireman who you would call a professional. 

Come to think of it, I wonder how many of the countless people and animals I helped save over those 6 years, would worry about me just being a volunteer.  I have never ever, ever, shied away from being or saying I was a volunteer fireman, we do the same work, fight the same fires, and save the same lives.... period. 

So if I gave you the impression that it was in fact a career of mine, and you later realised that I had somehow misled you and I was in fact, only a lowly volunteer fireman, then I must look out for doing that in future. 

There is absolutely no distinction whatsoever between the two, job wise, danger wise, emotionally wise..... the only difference... is the pay and benefits.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:39:45

Ironic isn't it.

I clearly stated I do not want to slag off anyone, or get into a mudslinging match on here.

Then I see the welcome post from Beeno.

Sad


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:50:12

Hmmm if you want to apologise for you shocking behaviour fireman feel free. I am a most forgiving sort.

 

 

 


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 13:53:16

TC you told that story or one very similar to that way back when....and as I recall I congratulated you on your efforts. There was no off board communication, it's just something that occured in normal posting. And I meant it, not many people actually take physical risks to help others. If you look at your introduction to our discussion which you post above....it seems fairly clear you are responding to something positive from me. And my response to that posting is positive. I respect the work you did. Let's just say there was a misunderstanding and leave it at that. Our later confrontation got out of hand and frankly I can't even remember what it was about. Good luck to you.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 14:17:41

Well said Moz. Good luck to ou fireman - not that the oak deserves it!  Hahahahahahahaha

 


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 14:21:38

Beeno, I only posted here to refute what Moz said regarding me.  I am not here to appologise to anyone for anything that happened before, nor to mudsling anyone.

Enjoy your site here, As I said, I have been visiting here since early last year but haven't posted.  I have also posted maybe not more than 10 times in the last 6 months on the other site, just too busy.

In one breath you say you don't mind Taipan being here, but then in the next, say you are scraping the barrel, and have reached a new low...... not sure what you want.

Don't fret, I won't be posting here, you can relax.


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RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 14:48:24

Fireman Moz has set us a good example. Whether you post here or not is your decision entirely and nothing to do with me. I told you what I believed you did and there has been no apology.

Fine leave it at that and go well Fireman.  If nothing else at least  this matter can be laid to rest.  Sometimes things get terribly tangled etc as Moz said. I was in a meeting last week and it exploded

betwen two members of the committee. As I listened to this I could only conclude that  communications had got horribly tangled. Fortunately in this instance there were people

of good will present and the matter was finally smoothed out.

Its not at all about what I want Fireman it is about folk being free to post here - even a twit like bedpan. It is I suppose much like press freedom etc. Can't muzzle the opposition. 

So we welcome all even if they are complete twits in our view. No contradiction really. But as I said go well and the door remains open to you and anybody else. 

 

I am relaxed about anybody being here and confident that the very few cases of extreme abuse are well handled. 

 

 

 

 


BonganiP

Status: Baby Bok
Posts: 229
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 15:29:56

 FFS. How was that for an about-turn by the brave Beeno?  Hahahahaha. [removed]ing hilarious. A lengthy about-turn, but a quick one nonetheless.


TC-Fireman

Status: Ref
Posts: 17
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 16:23:38

For the record, so we finally put this to sleep.

You said this in a post above.

"and you still call yourself a Fireman and you haven't been active for how long? That's what I mean by "falsely called himself a Fireman". Leaving a false impression uncorrected over a long period of time, suggests you didn't want to correct the false impression. Apparently you still don't ".

In the old, but early days when I was posting on SS, I was indeed a volunteer fireman somewhere around that time, as explained earlier, for 6 years.

I don't, and never will, see the point of changing my online name because I am no longer doing it.  Most people will always remember my name as it was back then as TC, instead of me going around to all and sundry saying " Hi, I am now *********, but you might all remember me as TC back then, but I had to change my name because I am no longer in that field anymore."

A bit silly to do that when you have already made many online friends using that persona, and besides, nobody can ever take serious notice of whatever an online persona's name is, you can never ever read anything into that.  If that was the case, then mostly all of us would be guilty of some type of misrepresentation, you included.

Glad to see it has been cleared up, and good luck to you as well.

As for Beeno, you have told me many times what you think I did back then, I was not even on the board when you got banned, I had been off for a few months when this happened to you, it's easy to prove but I won't bother at all.  Yes we had bargies, but I had absolutely zero to do with your banning, but believe what you will.

 

 

 

 


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 11454
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 16:39:48

Nope fireman you started the whole conflagration and when it was blazing you disappeared. 

You launched a vicious attack and got some folk up in arms. Did you even read my condolences to the people of Christchurch. If not go and look it up and you can apologise later.

Why do you think I was reinstated - because my remarks to the abs was entirely non related. What sort of a monster do you think I am or anybody that would not be

moved by such a human tradgedy?  

 

 

 

 

 


Goodman

Status: Orange peeler
Posts: 97
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 17:12:47

any rugby in these parts ?

Where does one find the Sharks fans ?


Super Pat

Status: Ref
Posts: 16
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 17:51:33

Normal Sharks fans or the nutcases?


Goodman

Status: Orange peeler
Posts: 97
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 18:44:51

From what i can see the Nutcase positions have all been taken on this forum. There are enough to prehaps farm them out to other sporting codes. Including netball, i see a few big girls here.


mozart

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Posts: 8228
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
January 31, 2013, 20:44:29

Try Super Supporter, they need members.


TC-Fireman

Status: Ref
Posts: 17
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
February 01, 2013, 09:55:13

Why do you think I was reinstated - because my remarks to the abs was entirely non related

Precisely my point 

Therefore what I said at the time regarding your AB post, did not lead to your banning from the site, whatever you did after your AB post did, and I was not there then, or for a long time after.

You had already been banned a while by the time I got back on the site.

Your own words here...... not mine.

 


Beeno1

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Posts: 11454
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
February 01, 2013, 13:26:50

Fireman I will work through this with you. What happened was that becasue of the fire you lit, there was an uproar from a certain quarter for me to be banned  -  

because you had depicted of me as a monster re the Christchurch earthquake. Realising another banning was on the cards I said I would be posting a defence shortly but if

I was not allowed to post it I would post it on Keo. I was then immediately banned and the post I had made re my going to Keo if not allowed to make a defence was [removed]. 

I am sure though that a number of folk did see that post before its deletion. I was not banned later when I made my post on Keo (FACT). Why was that post [removed]? Dishonst dealings.

One has a right to defend oneself from fase accusations and had they kept t o normal ethical standards my defence would have been made on ss board and of course successfully as subsequent events proved.

You however were the person who caused the problem in the first place with you attack. In my view you also had a part to play re the departure of Moz and the split that ultimately followed.

Now Moz is happy to let bygones be bygones. So am I but I want you to know the truth so you can realise your part in all this . If you dont wish to apologise that is entirely up to you.

From my part I am glad to discuss this with you and clear up matters.  As things stand I am very happy to be on this forum  with the folk here although we have some moles

on board at the moment trying to cause trouble but who are actually proving very funny at times.

I do appreciate your coming here as Fireman and not as mole (As ou bedpan has done so often - he really misses us!!) and as I said I wish you well but relationships always work better when truth is established. 

 

 


TC-Fireman

Status: Ref
Posts: 17
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
February 01, 2013, 14:38:51

You posted this at the time:

Anything I post on the website re the red card will be posted on Keo should I get red carded or banned again

Barlee replied this:

I do not like that post Beeno, this is a private community forum, this is not a corporation forum...and it is not the forum that takes threats like that very lightly.

Even Denny posted this after you went onto Keo and bad mouthed the site:

Barlee....

Just so that I'm clear, you've done the right thing, Beeno has shown no remorse, as a matter of fact he chose to play hardball with you and your board. His posts were way offline, vile, vulgar and disgusting.....unprovoked....I've said this before. I supported his suspension.

I hear you when you say that you prefer a board that's not monitored.....sorry but I can never see that happening, it's a lovely ideal but the reality is quite different.

I ask you for the last time to re-consider on condition that Beeno apologises and withdraws his vulgar comments on the MB where it's plain for all to see and if his apology does not sound like he's being remorseful then his banning order stays firmly in place.
    

You did not apologise, your banning was for the post you put on Keo, or the threat of doing it, not sure as I wasn't there.  It had sweet nothing to do with me, and I have nothing to apologise for.

You even posted this on Keo:

" Yours truly has been banned for whatever weird reason - I really dont know.  May have something to do with appeals to get Moz and Denny back?
Anyhow if you do see this post let them know I was banned and did not leave of my own accord".

Now if you didn't know back then why you were banned, why now accuse me, your assesment of what happened is not accurate at all.
 

Beeno, seriously, I am leaving it as it is now, I am not going to rehash this whole thing with you, I just wanted to perhaps settle it, which I think we both agree will probably never happen, thats fine by me.

I will always post as myself, I have no desire, and have never had the desire to post as someone else, I say it like it is so you at least have the knowledge of where it comes from.

For the record, I had absolutely nothing to do with Moz leaving, yes we had a few arguments, big deal, we are both adults, from what I hear, he is old enough to make his own decisions in life, and it was his decision to leave, so don't accuse me of that.  I could make the assumption that his decision was a well informed one, and not one done in haste, so you can leave me out of that. 

I didn't come here to mudsling, myself and Moz have put an issue to bed, it seems, and I am fine with that, and I am leaving this topic as it is as well, because we will probably end up going nowhere, which is pointless.

All the best
TC

 


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 11454
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
February 01, 2013, 17:03:42

Okay a last word. There was no threat provided they did what was ethical - Allow me to defend myself. After I made that post I was cut off and my post was removed not long after that.

A number of  people never saw that post and even said I was lieing about it!!!! They were led t obeleive I just sommer decided t opost on keo to be spiteful. I did it ONLY becuase I wa sdenied access  to post of SS Board. Now you tell me who is behaving badly!

Denny of course thought i wa sbehaving badly until he knew about my saying unles I was allowed to defend my self I would post on keo. In fact a number of realised altter they had been mislead. Just like when they wer emislead about my firs  banning when the board was told I had left of my own accord.

What they was saying was vulgar etc was my saying I hoped the abs would quake in their boots the next time they played the Boks - of course I had no remorse for tht statement .

They after being inflamed by you and a few other ill spirited folk  completely ignored my post conveying condolences to the peopel of Christchurch which was posted at virtually the same time as the quaking remark re the abs! Astonsihing stuff.!! You were the one who inflamed them so their brains stopped working. Not a nice piece of work fireman.

Having denied me an opportunity to defend myself I did what exactly what  said I would do and let folk know the truth via Keo.

There was an outcry on my behalf and I was reinstated.    Bwahhahahahahahaha were ther esome red faces then - it was really hilarious!!!

Now we suffer  in this wildernes Moz,  Denny and I. Hahahahhahahahahahahaha. Please excuse me fireman but it is really very funny how it all turned out. What they didnt count on is the truth coming out. But you cannot control the whole interne evn if you hold the banning button on your own board. Hahhahahahahahahaha

Fireman the best I can hope for re you as a person is that you for some amazing reason never saw my condolences letter to the people of  Christchurch. I hope you didnt else you are a real piece of work. If you didnt I can see some justifcation but even then it would have been a huge overreaction.

So last question did you or did you not see my condolences post. 

 

 

That dear fireman is the truth of the matter.

 

You can deny it all you like but it does not alter the facts of the case.

Anyway let leave  it as an unresolved issue. 

 


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8228
RE: Mozart vs Saffex
February 01, 2013, 17:41:18

HasBeen having posted with you for years, I don't need to read all the detail.  This posting process is  a searchlight into character. I know that you are a decent, non malicious guy with a proclivity to stir. I have never seen you try to make any other poster feel bad about himself. You are incapable of being callous about the Christchurch tragedy, and if it appears in any way that you did, it's simply a misunderstanding.

 

Foggetaboutit!


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