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Beeno1

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Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 10:48:14

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Luke Watson, contrary to reports, has not launched any form of attack on Afrikaners and the administration of South African rugby.

But he now knows that there will always be a divisive element aimed at destruction in South African rugby to further individual and provincial agendas. There will also be more attacks on his credibility this season as so many within rugby and associated with rugby disgustingly celebrate undermining the Kings’ debut season because of the South African Rugby Football Union’s disgraceful handling of the Lions-Kings Super Rugby participation.

Watson three years ago described South African rugby as a game run by ‘[removed]’. He never shied away from having made the comment but at the time expressed disappointment that a private discussion had been reported to the media and so misrepresented within the media.

He left to play for English club Bath but returned to South Africa three years ago as part of a three-year contract to be a part of the Kings’ historical entry into Super Rugby. On his return he spoke officially of his regret at the comment, however informal the occasion, and spoke of his desire to make a contribution to a unified Eastern Province and South African rugby.

He apologised to those he said he may have offended and in the last three years has concentrated on the job at hand. For some that will never be good enough and Watson’s Super Rugby challenge will be made even tougher by continued efforts to undermine and misrepresent him from the field.

In a recent interview with 702 Talkback Radio Watson was again asked about his criticism of South African rugby three years ago. The ‘[removed]’ remark was again highlighted and he was asked for an opinion on the administration of the game.

The player confirmed the remark he had made three years ago, added that he had dealt with it on his return and in relation to a question said South African rugby as a whole was still struggling to come to terms with transformation the equal of the society that reflects change in South Africa.

Transformation, he added, would always be an ongoing issue.

Media reports singled out Watson for saying the game was still being run by ‘[removed]men’.

‘I have always taken accountability for how I have played and for what I have said. Where I have got it wrong or regretted an action or a comment I have always been prepared to make the necessary apology and I really thought that fronting the issue of what I said three years ago was dealt with three years ago,’ said Watson, adding: ‘It really disappoints me that an interview was so badly misrepresented and a comment of three years ago made the focus and given the appearance that I have again criticised a cultural element of South African rugby. I did not in a 702 Radio interview say the game in 2013 was still being run by [removed]men and transformation, not just in a playing numbers, will and should always be a discussion and a debate because the purpose has to be to get the desired transformation as a country, not just in one particular sporting code.’

Watson told keo.co.za that just like the Lions players suffered as a result of the uncertainty in their Super Rugby participation, the players within the Southern Kings are representative of South Africa and that players did not decide policy or participation in tournaments.

‘Every bloke in the squad will give his everything for the Kings and by extension for South African rugby. We can only influence our actions but it is not made any easier with media misrepresentation on issues as sensitive as culture and provincialism in the South African game.

‘I learn and I learned from three years ago. All I can do set the record straight on the inaccuracy of the reports attributing remarks made three years ago to a recent radio interview.’

The Kings will play in the tournament for the first time this year but are not guaranteed an automatic second year. Participation in 2014 Super Rugby will be determined through league results.


clevermike

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 13:00:51

There are two statements that I don't like and those relate to  -

*    Watsons comment on puking on the Springbok jersey; and

*    his comments on the sport being run by [removed] people.

The majority of [removed] speaking people today are not from [removed] origin - even in [removed] colonial times most settlers came from Germany, France and Belgium - not the Neherlands - and they were assimmilated by enforcement of usage of [removed] as the official language to be used.   By as early as 1870 - most people spoke [removed] as a language and originally it was developed and used by the Coloureds and often described as a kitchen language 9 Ie language used by the labourers and not the owners and employers.   However, as stated by 1870 very few people could actually speak [removed] properly and [removed] took over and made official already in 1925 - nearly a hundred years ago.

The term [removed]men is sometimes used as a derogatory term to describe Afrikkans-speaking people - a very large percentage of which are Coloureds and not even through decent descended from the [removed] colonial times.    Watson should try and enhance his rugby performances and keep his ill-informed and divisisve comments to himself.   If he was properly informed of the problems that really would contribute to sport development - inclusive of rugby - on school level, he could make a positive contribution.

Let me be blunt - I have nothing against Watson as a rugby player - i wish him well - but I think insulting people is not the answer and he should actually get himself on a mission to really change the face of sport in SA on another non-political level.         


Beeno1

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 13:32:50

Mike it cuts both ways. If Watson has indeed apologised it should be left in the past now and he should be given a chance to start again.

I am more concerend with his dad. Cheeky seems to think EP has earned the right to be playing Super 15 rugby (Thinks EP has been hard done by for some reason). I cant see that as being true. Thy had a pathetic admin etc and paid the price of their own failures


Ek

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 13:44:22

Mike since Luke has come back he has applied himself to what he does, play rugby, He has about this 3 years ago. So we have to take that as it is in his stride. No use in bringing it up again. But somehow most people don't see it that way.

I was in the past unhappy about the comments, he has appologised and We have moved on. I will judge him as I have judged him in tha last three years. As a rugby player and now captain of his side. I can only know so much, and have personally never met the man so on accounts of how sincere his appolgies where, I will not be able to judge, as i said I don't know the guy and will take it as it is.


Jalapeno!

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 13:57:15

Baboon-ou, just because Luke Watson apologised for saying some really stupid things doesn't mean he didn't say them. I'd expect even someone of your limited intellect to understand that much.


Beeno1

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 14:14:05

ju ju jalo a sincere apology should be accepted and one should then move on. Could we have perchance identifed a key area relating to you lack of development rooitwit?

 


Jalapeno!

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 14:24:12

Baboon-ou, this is the bit of your copy-and-paste job that you actually highlighted:

 

Luke Watson, contrary to reports, has not launched any form of attack on Afrikaners and the administration of South African rugby.

 

Now, forgetting about who apologized to who and when, that statement implies that the incident never happened. No?

 


Beeno1

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 14:37:26

rooitwits allow me to enlighten you. Watson has apologised for what he said. He would not apologise if he had said nothing offesnsive. That a journalist gets himself all mixed up has little to do with Watson.

Watson three years ago described South African rugby as a game run by ‘[removed]’. He never shied away from having made the comment

He apologised to those he said he may have offended and in the last three years has concentrated on the job at hand.

Ou rooitwit finds everything so confusing. Hahahahhahahaha

Next.


Jalapeno!

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 14:44:59

Baboon-ou, if there's someone with a double-digit IQ anywhere near you, please ask them nicely to explain to you what your highlighted statement means and then ask yourself how Luke Watson could have made his statement and not made it at the same time . . . which is what you appear to be saying.


clevermike

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 16:24:22

Ek

I only saw Luke Watson closely when i was on the plane coming back from Perth when the Springboks was on the flight as well.   Before the flight they were  joking and talking to the other passengers like me, that mainly went to Perth to watch them play there.

The very jovial conversations and friendliness continued while passengers were collecting their luggage.   The only person that was taciturn and did not speak to anyone - nor seems inclined to even respond to anybody - was Watson.   He mainly seems to think that PR on the part of the team is not necessary - and my impression of him was not positive.

The main object of his [removed] remark was aimed at Schalk Burger - when the latter took over the captaincy of the Stormers from him - and I believe that gave impetus to his move to Bath.   One can but wander what Shalk Burger thought of that one?  

I really think we  should accept his apologies since he without realizing what he was saying made offensive remarks and probably only later on realied the full 9implications as to what he said.     I am saying he did not really realize the impact because his home background wirth Cheeky around was hate-filled and vicious with Cheeky using the Dutvh story continuously and venomously and Luke not reaizing the impact. 

Be it s it may - lets forget the episode and see how he performs as a rugby player - with a high percentage o the team he is going to captain being [removed]-speaking in any event.


Beeno1

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 28, 2013, 16:27:12

Contrary to reports - whose reports? Watson has admitted and aoplogised for his remarks so why would he deny them.  I believe reports is referring to those made by journalsits re the matter.

What says ou rooitwit?

 


Ek

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 29, 2013, 11:33:14

Mike,now that is a rational statement i can go with. Let's give the guy his chance. If he neuks op then he takes it. If he handles it better this time around, then good on him, he learn't something.


Ek

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RE: Hatchet media job on Watson
January 29, 2013, 11:33:17

Mike,now that is a rational statement i can go with. Let's give the guy his chance. If he neuks op then he takes it. If he handles it better this time around, then good on him, he learn't something.


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