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Saffex

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Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:15:49

http://www.matiesrugby.co.za/Maties-BabyBoks-Jan-2013


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:22:02

Any message Saffex, or -

*   are you starting a Swiel sopport campaign;

*   have you finally gone duilly after years of pretence  that you know something  about rugby; and

*   consequently in the final analysis indicatea your level of rugby intelligence


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:22:04

Any message Saffex, or -

*   are you starting a Swiel sopport campaign;

*   have you finally gone duilly after years of pretence  that you know something  about rugby; and

*   consequently in the final analysis indicatea your level of rugby intelligence


Saffex

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:26:14

not sure what happened but tried to copy and paste the article, but did not work, link is now there - see above


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:30:54

Saffex

Sorry - the reference was not in your original comments.

Two issues bothers me and those were -

   *   the apparent weakness of the Under 20 locks - maybe Ori is just too light at 102 kgs to be really affective; and

  *   the try scored by Tim Swiel.

I have never seen a youngster of his age that has such an advanced level of ball sense and ability to read the game - coupled with really major speed - than I have seen in this youngster.

 

 

 

 


Saffex

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:38:11

There is no doubt Orie is not up to it. They say he is good in the line-outs etc but so what, he is too light for the engine room. Sounds like the props struggled as well, but then they have nothing behind them.

 

The other lock in the squad is Visser, he is 1.99m and 118kg, maybe its time he got a run

 

Swiel is a class act, he has scored many tries like that

 

 


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 19:47:06

Saffex

I personally think that Swiel is destined for high honours in SA Rugby.   He must just get his muscle strength and weight up to about 87 kgs and bob is your uncle.   He has the next two years to do just that - hope he is a gym fanatic like Etzebeth.

 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 20:06:52

Maties teach Baby Boks a lesson

The FNB Maties beat the South African U20 team in a sweltering Stellenbosch, and showed that they will be exceptionally tough to beat this year.

The Baby Boks started the game off very well, and Jan Serfontein made a strong run up the middle of the field, and found his outside-centre, Sylvian Mahuza, who was dragged down inches short of the line. A penalty followed, and then flanker Jacques du Plessis barged his way over the line, with flyhalf Handré Pollard kicking the conversion.

Maties lost inside-centre Louis Jordaan relatively early in the match, but his replacement Hayden de Villiers didn’t let his teammates down. Maties kicked a penalty out and from the subsequent line-out starting driving the Baby Boks back, setting a trend for the afternoon. Hooker Neethling Gericke scored from the maul, and JH Potgieter pushed the conversion just wide.

The two Maties props, Allistair Vermaak and Brendon Pitzer, completely dominated their opponents, and from a scrum they forced a knockout. Maties then scrummed again and after recycling possession well, James Alexander passed to Reniel Hugo, who in turn fed his second-row partner Wilhelm van der Sluys for a score under the posts. Potgieter kicked the conversion and Maties led 12-7 at the end of the first chukka.

The second chukka was a dour affair, with neither team being able to score. Maties scrumhalf Alexander took a knock on his nose, and was replaced by Jean Nel. This sped the game up quite well, as fresh legs tend to do, especially in the scorching heat that the players were subjected to. The highlight of the third chukka was a chip by Hugo, which was nearly gathered by winger Clearance Khumalo.

After sustained pressure on the Baby Boks tryline, the referee awarded a penalty try after the Bokkies were adjudged to have pulled down the maul. Dean Grant, on for Potgieter, kicked the conversion and Maties led 19-7. Khumalo had a few strong runs, and Ryan Nell also caught the eye with his good running from fullback.

Flanker Derick Linde, who had come on as a replacement, then made two turnovers and forced a penalty for Maties. The ball was kicked out, and then Johnny Kotze scored from the following lineout, with Grant keeping the scoreboard ticking with his conversion. Maties were leading 26-7 at this stage, and time was running out for the Baby Boks.

Tim Swiel, playing fullback for the Baby Boks, made a brilliant individual run, beating about four or five would be Matie defenders on his way to the tryline. The conversion was missed by Robert du Preez, and Maties still led comfortable at 26-12.

The final act of the game was when JP Lewis showed his explosive pace to score when the ball was sent wide and he dotted down to add a bit of respect to the scoreboard, with the final whistle blowing after Du Preez had missed the conversion.

Maties now have two good preseason victories under their belt, with last week’s 82-0 victory over UWC also showing the team’s killer instinct. Coach Chris Rossouw will now have the undesirable task of selecting his final squad, but this is most likely to be a labor of love for the Maties man.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 20:09:47

hi saffex, i posted that article from the link, hope u dont mind, its just that one of my pet peeves are threads that only have links, :o)

 

but a few questions, who are the matties??? and what is the strgenth of their team close to???


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 20:15:09

t swiel is a class act, i still watch that utube link from time to time and i showed it to my brother who vocied similar sentiments to mine.

 

i am curious about his defence though, not just against the bigger opponents which will be a cham]llenge for him as he steps up a level, but the one on ones with other backs, cover defnece and all.
no question about his attacking game though, the best ive seen in that age group since julian savea.


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 20:41:41

Sasue

Maties is the Rugby team of the University of Stellenbosch.   They are very strong as a team and will beat most provincial sides in SA.

The Team is famous for producimg a vuirtually endless supply of Springboks and many Stormers and WP rugby players came through there.   Francois Louw was one of those.

I think the youngsters did very well against them given the circumstances - and am really not surprised about the Swiel try.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 20:55:57

@mikey,

 

thanks for that bro, given those conditions, the jrBoks did very well.

a few questions though in regards to the jrBoks,,,

how do u think they will fare in france druing the junior world championship???

IMO this is an area of concern for the Boks, as i dont believe SA to be the same formidable team they are when the play at home, ive noted that this applies to all teams, from the Boks down to the spXV teams and i cant shake the feeling that same will aply to the u20s, even with the class they have.

also the sweltering heat they played against maties will not be replicated in france as it will be spring time, it could aid them in the mental factor though, but i guess the match was more for synergy then it was trying to replicate the IRB jrRC.


clevermike

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RE: Tim Swiel for Baby Boks
January 23, 2013, 21:08:00

Sasue

I am not sure about that at this stage.   I am also not sure what the team is going to be ultimately.   There may be quite a few changes and I think the real object was to see how these youmgsters do against established older and more experienced players.   The three matches can in a way be regarded as trial matches and there are some absentees that already play on provincial level that could ultimnately be in the squad.

You must remember that there are many 18 and 19 year-olds in the squad that played for the school teams in 2012 and am still in fact in school - so playing them against senior players could separate the wheat from the chaff and up their mental strength considerably.

The match was not on TV so all of us are a bit in the dark about it.   However, it seems there are some upgrading needed in respect of scrummaging and driving forward play.   However, rumour has it that the team is basically on par with the 2102 team - so they will be competitive at the JWC.


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