The Ruckers Forum

Forum » Rugby » General Stuff » The Message Board Discussions
Login to reply
 
 
 
3418 Topic: The Message Board Discussions
clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 13002
The Message Board Discussions
January 16, 2013, 23:30:34

I really get more disspirited every time I opened a message and see the same drivel - accusations of lieing and beng idiotic and being foolish and worse have become the stock in trade on this Board,

What is going on here - are we deadly enemies of each other purely because we difference of opinion?   Can we at least not show some decency in discussion and be respectful to each other?   Really - I always thought that any debate where people resort to personal attacks and insults implies that they lack facts to support their arguments.

I want to make one more plea - can we not use this as a rugby discussion site and leace the issue of politics, religion and other non-rugby-related issues out of it and stop using the insulting terms in which we address each other.   Can we not express opinions about rugby without being acrimonious and without the personal attacks?

It is really no pleasure to open this Boiard and see that there is only a few rugby-related message and that 80% of the messages comprise only insults and more insults.   I have been thinking that really it is not worthwhile to continue in this vein at all.

There is one thing I can say about the majority of the New Zealand members - you can differ from them and they do not become nasty and insulting - and the issues they raise are rugby-related and far above the level of decency so many members have apparently abandoned.       

 


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 00:35:26

Mike if you think this Board is going to be different, that opportunity disappeared when Jalapeno/Rooinek arrived. This guy's style is to irritate, insult and sneer at other posters. He will pick a few targets, one of them unfortunately is you. Not that you have done anything to him, you simply are a target he likes. I am too.

 

Along with RooiAAS comes a new toady role for Dave. He will play second cudgel very willingly.

 

No amount of friendliness or cooperation will deflect these chaps from their mission of intimidation. You can either leave the Board, ignore the insults or better yet, give as good as you get.

 

I have found over the years they always overplay their hands.....Sapp's laughable attempt to dupe the Board with me as a participant, or Rooinek's attack on Lambie's guts. Inherently, beyond Sapp's endless streams of unproven youngsters and Rooinek's vitriol, they don't have much to say.

 

Don't try to rationalise with these chaps. The Old Law applies....an eye for an eye.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 00:48:38

Moffie your pathetic hypocrisy stinks - still waiting for the shots of your house and car and dont forget the sign


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 01:38:33

You forget Dave you were pandering to me long after those pictures. And if you have any doubts about that, say the word, all my e -mails remain archived. There's your hypocrite.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 01:54:55

Moffie lying again I have stuff all hidden in an e-mail to you.

Keep paddling liar


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 02:01:50

You never complimented me after that? Huh? Are you sure you wont cry for Rooinek again if I expose you? Best keep your trap shut.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 02:09:16

I really dont recall what I said to you way back then. A compliment is one thing but splashing your possessions on a rugby messageboard is pretty pathetic would you not say, huh?


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 07:12:31

No I wouldn't say. I did that after being accused of being a fake for years by your good buddy Rooinek. Well moz's pad certainly shut him up. Game over and only you seem obsessed by the incident. I could care less about possessions or professions, I rate guys here according to their rugby instincts and their collegiality.

 

Apparently it offended your finer sensibilities. But not so much that you didn't pander to me years later. Somewhat hypocritical? Or perhaps just desperate for something negative to say.

 

You should have just accepted my counter offer of a mutual cease fire. Now you look like a toss again.


Jalapeno!

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 602
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 08:21:37

Oh dear, ou Maaik is upset because people are calling each other names! Ou Maaik, wake up and smell the putrid stench of your hypocrisy!

 

"Do you really expect an answer to this one from the nit-wit?"

 

"your poor only braincell must be disfunctioning again."



"you have always been a sheister"


"he is way too stupid to really realize the full implications of what he said."


"you are and have always been a dimwith"

 

That's just a quick selection of some of your insults from the last two days. So, feeling stupid yet, Ou Maaik? 


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 13002
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 08:47:01

Rooinek 7

I got frustrated with what was going on on the Board and ultimately fell into the same trap.   On reflection - what I said was wrong and I am grown up enough to admit that.   In thinking about the whole scenario last night - I decided to write what I did - and simultaneously should have added an apology for those cases where I fell into the trap myself.   I did not do that - and now wants to complete the process by apollogizing and I hope I would not get caught up again by the pettiness of some other posters. 


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12011
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 08:56:22

It takes two to tango and both sides are at fault with Beeno alone being squeaky clean!

I dont think Mike its the topic that counts rather its the way a matter is discussed. A difference of two inches can cause huge flak if handled in a certain way.

So its not the subject, be its politics or religion etc, its the way things are handled. Essentially a question of goodwill and a breakdown of that for sundry reasons.

"What is going on here - are we deadly enemies of each other purely because we difference of opinion"?  Now that Mike is a more interesting point. Of course its now more than differences in opinion its about lying. Now the question is will devouring one another be the answer? Will we all benefit from that going that route. Will the board be a better place for.  

To me I am all for some banter and digs etc etc and am not looking for a sanitised board but I think it unfortunate when things become bitter. So Mike asks an important question. Are we deadly enemies seeking only to see the opponent leave here and until that happens run a campagin to effect that end.

Moz mentions an eye for an eye. Well a better principle is the extension of some grace. Generosity of spirit is a great thing.

Mike also, if you want to stir (And you have admited you do like t ostir  bit) and also want to and use a few juicy jibes (hard to resist at times I am the first to admit) then you have to be able to take the inevitable responses. Its no use thereafter bleating about others when you are part of the game. And thats the point why take cyber jibes etc too seriously. 

We have a great board here but lets all try to avoid tipping into bitterness whatever the provocation.

St Beeno the pious - a role model and councellor to errant members. Meditate


Jalapeno!

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 602
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 09:21:24

Ou Maaik, I think I will be magnanimous and I'll accept your grovelling apology this time . . . but please also note that if you're upset by people calling each other liars, you should take that particular issue up with Moffie.

 

The other day I put up several examples of the deceitful old coffin-dodger carrying on and on like a stuck record about Dave's height. I honestly don't think I've ever seen such obsessive and childish behaviour on the internet or anywhere else. I think Moffie has been banging on about whether Dave is half a centimetre shorter than he claims for about 5 years now and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that that issue (pathetic as it is) is the source of all the lying accusations.

 

If you want a friendlier message board with fewer accusations and fewer insults, find out from your spiteful pal Moffie what the real issues are that are driving his incredibly juvenile and obsessive behaviour regarding Dave's height. That will sort out 90% of the issues. Good luck!


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12011
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 09:34:52

Mike you were having some fun with those jibes as do others. Only dont make the mistake of taking it seriously.

Ou rooitwits summary re THE hight matter is more fantasy but eternity is not long enough to put ou rooitwit right on the subject.

I do hope ou snapster doesnt bring up his hight neurosis again. Fight that vain streak snapster. Get the beast under control. ROTFLROTFLROTFL

However for the sake of peace we will all consider your 5.10 snapster as being about six foot and that chubby build as being well built. Also that you are considered a big man among your small friends etc.ROTFL

Beeno pouring oil on troubled waters!

 


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 13002
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 10:00:08

It is hot outside and the humidity is high - so we need to bear in mind that it is not necessary to get hot around the collar on the Board as well.   A dip in my pool at home can solve the first - I just had one and feel much cooler now - bruised egos cannot be solved as easily.

Lets put it this way - I like banter without insults and provided they are entirely rugby-related.   There is nothing funnier than to see A girl explode every time I write something negative about his favoured players.   Just try it and see the result. He has built Francois Steyn, Taute, Jantjies and Hougaard into cult status and has denigrated De Villiers and often enough Habana as the worst demons on the rugby field.   [removed] those bubbles and the explosion is automatic.

The one member I seriously miss is Der Aristocrat - he on his part is the great supporter of Morne Steyn - who according to him has more "ball sense" than any other player in SA - that whilst being absolutely clueless about what the tem actually means - whilst Kirchner walks on water according to him.   After all - Bulls players are the best in the world.    Another member that is equal to A girl - when his favoured players bugger up - he writes the most wonderful description on how good the Bulls players were and blame everyone else for their deficiencies.   I wish he comes back - then we can have some real fun and games.

Let rugby discussions be the norm - not fat, old and ugly.   I meet all the latter requirements and will accpt it gracefully - but it has no relevance to rugby discussion 


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12011
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 10:21:22

Good idea re the pool Mike. Yes I miss Card also. He is a bright young guy and always gave a number of insightful comments . Cant say I always agreed with his assesments but is was a challenge to prove him wrong!  So yes miss him very much. 

Mike rugby will always be the main subject here but in quieter times other things arise. On top of that decent dicussions on other sports or even other subjects enrich the board experience.

Shalom to you and all here!

 


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 12:10:35

So I was pandering to some halfwit I had never met in my life at the time or if I had it was a brief meeting. Wow you really do have a high opinion of yourself. Fact is when you slapped your possessions all over that messageboard, you were met with the disdain you deserved.

 

It was nothing short of disgusting. Pandering - dream on liar


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 13002
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 12:22:18

A girl

Cool down - my friend - cool down.   Like millions of other people throughout the world - I have a house with a swimming pool - nothing to brag about.   It is in a hamlet about 65 kms north of Durban on the coast - nothing to write home about - possibly one of the cheapest homes in the little town.

No bragging in my case - just clarifying issues a bit.   Really regard me as a halfwit?   Sorry about that one.   Thought deep down you always have been a nice guy.    


DbDraad

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 1117
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 13:00:52

 He was replying to Moz and not to you Mike.


becs

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 1000
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 13:28:23

I certainly don't have a problem with Mike, but I do think it a little rich to make accusations of uncalled for comments about others when all I see from him are very unpleasant comments about " Poms " ! Sometimes I really do wonder about how hypocrisy is measured by some people !!


clevermike

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 13002
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 13:35:22

Becs

I did not think the term I used would be that offnsive and will refrain from using that in future.   Please accept my apologies in the relevant regard.


becs

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 1000
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 13:58:08

Mike, thank you for responding and I do appreciate that sentiment.

What I was referring to more was some of the really deeply unpleasant comments you have made about the English on these pages. They have been really nasty and, had they been made by me about anyone else or their country/Religion etc, all Hell would have let loose !

Again, thank you for you response.


DbDraad

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 1117
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 14:10:17

 Are you sure it was Mike that made the comments? I can't recall it and it seems a bit out of character. I know we all can be a bit insensitive to others from time, but Mike does not strike me as the abusive type.


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12011
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 14:31:09

Just to make a very necessary correction. These halfwits were, day in and day out, calling Moz a lair re anything he said. He was not boasting about anything, he just mentioned the odd thing from time to time. If, for example, he mentioned a car he owned (cars as a subject having arisen) they called him a liar. So Moz would show them a picture.  However the green eyed monster became more aroused and the insults flew thck and fast. Moffie was a liar squeaked rooitwit day by day. On and on it went. Eventually Moz gave them the proof that he was exactly who he said he was.

It was hilarious probably the funniest thing I ever saw on a message boord. Wha ya climax, after years of insulting Moz, calling him a liar etc these few half wits were left gob-stopped. Rooinek and a guy called Sharkie were the two leading this assult.  They were close cyber buddies and both were sharks supporters. Sharkie saw the evidence and was halted in his tracks. As I said he was man enough to realise he had been wrong all those years and sincerely apologised to Moz for all his insults. Rooitwit was horrified as his main ally had crossed over to the other side and had in fact taken up the cudgels against him!!  A terrible moment for rooitwit and one could almost feel for him. However rooitwit never apologised and lived in denial of the established truth.

Now why did all this happen and, alas, why does it persist even to this day one has to ask. What were the driving forces? Well that is not difficult to answer. It was the terrible sin of jealousy. 

A sad but true tale.

Whilst Mike is repenting of his foul comments re the English I do suggest snapster and rooitwit do likewise re their jealousy problem. 

 


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 14:36:38

Beenkop, we know you are a halfwit, but a lying halfwit is a bit much to stomach. Could you get any further up Moffies arse?


Jalapeno!

Status: Bok regular
Posts: 602
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 14:48:16
Wehe!

Baboon-ou, all I can say is I'm very glad it's you spinning this far-fetched fantasy. Anyone who's ever read any of your embarrassingly stupid posts will know just how much weight to give any of this unsubstantiated rubbish. There are one or two half-truths among all your drivel and you've embellished them with your normal hopelessly biased and idiotic views while the rest is just a pack of shameless lies.

The real truth is, you never got over that episode on the SS board when I put you on ignore for about a year and you squeaked and squawked for my attention in the most embarrassing manner imaginable, day after day, week after week and month after month. Your pathetic gratitude when I felt sorry for you and threw you a bone by finally responding to your plaintive whining was one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever witnessed and I know you still harbour a deep resentment because of that public humiliation.

Now, if you think that making up a pack of lies makes you even then go ahead and think that . . . but you and I both know better, don't we, Baboon-ou?

LMAO!


Beeno1

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 12011
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 14:57:06

Hahahahahahahahahaha vintage rooitwit.


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 15:40:55

In summary in spite of accusations of half truths and lies. Here are the facts. Rooinek called me a liar  about my life, for years. Not months or days. I finally posted a picture of my home with a sign saying moz's pad in front.

 

The attack shifted to the one Fat Dave is parroting....how can you be so crass as to show your possessions. But in fact the game was over.

 

So much so that meeting Dave a year or two later he was friendly and quite complimentary. Apparently his sensibilities were  mollified. We got on quite well for a while, until he started attacking Jake's RWC win on the Board and things fell apart.

 

Now, what 7 or more years later , the incident suddenly offends him? You have to be kidding.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 15:59:33

I think Beenkop's lowest point came when he was expelled from the SS site and cried foul for months thereafter. The banished trio of Beenkop, Moffie and the attractive Denise made for compelling reading when they strove to all lengths to gain a reprieve - Beenkop offered a brain transplant, Moffie volunteered a 3D shot of his house and Denise threw in a promised facelift!!

 

To my surprise their SS status to this day remains unchanged. Now if I was the SS coach, I'd have Beenkop in charge of tactics, Moffie running dumies and Denise buried away at hooker to spare us that site for sore eyes!!


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 16:45:58

So you think anybody who left that Board is under some sort of cloud?


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 17:01:51

So are you saying I have always been in favour of you slapping your house on a messageboard or that it has only suddenly become offensive to me?

 

Are we really to believe your version of the facts. So you started calling me short and fat after meeting me because we disagreed over Jake?

 

You never left the board, you were chucked off it - why is that then?


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 17:10:37

On the contrary, I left the Board and said why and then in a petty vindictive act Hawkeye banned me. Locking the gates after the horse had left the barn comes to mind. And I never once asked to be let back, in spite Barlee writing to me asking how I would improve things.

 

Feeling a bit "fact deprived " again?


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 17:18:37

Would this be the facts according to Moffie - are you asking me to believe them then - I'm sure the SS board would concur with your version!!


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 17:26:51

I'm sure their version would have a different slant, but that's how I see things. Many on that Board came over here to crow about how weak this Board was, which suggests there were some hard feelings. Fortunately with denny's help we just continued to build and now have a healthy , diverse Board with many overseas participants. Hell, since you and Rooinek came out of the closet we even have that minority group covered.


Saffex

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 9331
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 17:38:05

Ah of course the other board would have a different slant, I just wonder why that is? Would that be another case of your word against a multitude.

 

Denise could not organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone a following


mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 8771
RE: The Message Board Discussions
January 17, 2013, 18:10:20

So how did it all happen Fat Dave? A year ago this place had a "Rucking Flanker" tab that nobody even knew was a forum.  Denny, Beeno, the Aristo and I came over here and the result is a vibrant Board. I take no credit, but I do give credit to Denny who found many of our overseas members. Later guys like Mike and yourself came on Board and many new chaps. The Board owes a lot to denny.

 


Leave a reply:

You need to be logged in to leave a reply.
 
 

From The Sideline