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Sharkbok

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Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 11:42:07

 

Habana reportedly signs for Toulon



Springbok wing Bryan Habana will leave the Stormers after this year’s Vodacom Super Rugby competition to join French Top 14 club, Toulon.

Die Burger was reliably informed that Habana penned the deal with the French side in the last few days.

This comes after Toulon president Mourad Boudjellal confirmed last month that the Top 14 leaders were in hot pursuit of the Springbok flyer. Boudjellal said at the time the chances of Habana joining Toulon were "closer to 10 than zero."

At this stage it's unsure exactly how long Habana, 29, will play in France, nor whether he will be available for the Springboks' Incoming tests against Italy and Scotland in June.

The news will come as a blow to the Cape side as Habana was in top form last season, which saw him named SA Player of the Year for a third time.

Habana also won the Try of the Year award at last year's IRB awards, for his outstanding solo effort against the All Blacks in the Rugby Championship in Dunedin.

The 2013 Super Rugby season kicks off on Friday, February 15, with the Stormers due to play their first match on Friday, February 22 against Habana's former team, the Bulls, at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria.


Sharkbok

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 11:42:41

 Their was another post on this but by a french publication. It now seemed to be done and dusted


clevermike

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 11:50:12

Sharkbok

I was waiting for confirmation of this one from an SA source - but it seems that he is going.   He will be available for test rugby and that could in fact delay his departure to Toulon and also if he is to participate in the EOYT.

However, I believe Habana is doing the right thing insofar as financial security is concerned.   He probably has not more than 3 years top class rugby in him - so a very beneficial contract will set him up for life.   I guess the contract would be for about 2 million Euro per year - which tranlated into Rand is about R24 000 000 .  Over a two year contract he could end up with an investment of about R40 000 000 - which should be ample to pay for the groceries in future. 


Ek

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 11:51:07

Well good on him then. Let him go if he want's to. Hopefully he has a storming last season with the Stormers.


Beeno1

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 12:06:16

Exactly Ek -  he is leaving "after this year’s Vodacom Super Rugby competition". Very good news indeed.

Habana , Van Der heever and taut ewil lmake an excellent test class back three.  The Stormers backline could be:

Groom, Grant/Jantjes, Habana, Jean, Allende, Van Der Heever and Taute.

Other backs are Duvenage, Schreuder, van Aswegen, Howard, Du Plessis, Brache, Aplon and Joe Pietersen etc

Not too shabby!


carpetmuncher

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 15:05:58

well its sad but its part of the modern game. i just hope SArugby takes a hardline towards overseas based players and dont pick them for the boks. this type of player exodus will only escalate if SArugby can lure players to stay here to play for the boks.

 

this type of thing will only happen more and more if SArugby and the selectors give into this. we need these type of players in SA playing for our local teams. we lack serious depth in the backs and letting a player like habana go is a hugs mistake in my view


Beeno1

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 16:57:04

Its flippin rediculous that our best players can get bought up like this . We are at the mercy of french  and other NH clubs who can outbid us even when a player has a Bok and Super 15 contract etc. They are after Bekker and who knows who else.


canrugby

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 19:01:47

Couldn't really ask for a better situation for both sides.

 

Stormers get one more year out of a great winger who probably only has a few left, and they now know, and have a year, to either start grooming another winger, or going out and getting one.

 

Oh, and as for the money thing. Welcome to modern Day Pro Sports. You might as well get used to it.  Not saying it's right, but it's just the way it is.

 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 20:12:57

 The currency of the Euro and pounds, and even the Canadian Dollar is much better than the Rand at this stage- so this is really the driving force. I wonder if SARU was more professional we could build a better local league and sell the television rights globally like the French national rugby league. Firstly they are taking our players, and then they sell the broadcast rights and advertising around the world. So we are feeding them our players, but also helping them build a product that they can package and sell using our players. If we could improve the Curry Cup as a national competition, we could potentially also pay for some high profile players from other countries to boost viewership. 


canrugby

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 10, 2013, 21:21:52

I think our Canadian dollar is 8 times the Rand now. Crap, I should move to SA!! Although I'm pretty sure my wife wouldn't want to move back.

 

If you don't think the Currie cup is as popular, or isn't shown enough , then you are mistaken. At least with the coverage I get in Canada. The Channel I have that plays the Rugby plays more Currie cup games then Top 14 games. That may be because of when there played though as Top 14 is competing against the Premiership and Pro 12.

 

I think it's a case of a few owners in the top 14 just having tons of cash and the desire to win at all costs. All teams in the top 14 aren't like this.


Ek

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 07:39:32

I concurrrrrrrr with whatever our Canadian friend has said.

If he days anything else don't look at me please.


Ek

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 07:39:49

Whatever Can Said :)...


clevermike

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 08:25:41

Can is in a way correct in what he says.   The problem we have here is that the exchange rate does not reflect the actual cost of living between say England, France and other countries.   I found how disportinate that could be when you look at prices of basic things  for instance.   When in Australia in 2008 the price for a 1,5 kg back of potatoes was $2,50.   That equated to about R17,00 for 1,5 kgs - in SA at that time you could buy 10kgs for R29.

The same applies to virtually all foodstuffs and even accommodation costs.   Probem is however, for locals is that the COL is structured to reflect a higher cost than what they actually earn and poverty remains a major concern in SA.    It is thus a wonderful place to live in for people who gets foreign currency as a means of income.    For instance a person like Charles Spencer can spend 100 000 pounds a year on living expenses and live like a king - much better than the same amount woul allow him to live in England.

Npw back to rugby.   The SA rugby players do not only get their salaries from the overseas clubs - they also get provided with other fringe benefits like accommodation and vehicles - which further reduces their living expenses massively.   They can and do save a massive percentage of their income and that remains a major advantage over playing in SA.    

It is evident that especially the older players from SA with the end of their playing careers looming and those who believe they will not make the Springbok team - even mistakingly so - will be easily lured away to play in Europe or Japan.    That is a fact of life and that is why the Meyer tendency to play foreign-based  players in the team is counter-productive and should in fact only apply in exceptionally rare cases..    


Beeno1

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 08:27:01

Next thing Canada wil lb efollowing the lead of the Frog! (Have t oagreethough that bryan at th istage o fhis carer must go for the bucks - BUTwe need to be able to keep top players and get creative about it  -we could probably field danother Super 15 franchise from  overseas players?)

However I saw this on Keo this morning:

The Stormers have confirmed that Toulon are trying to sign wing Bryan Habana after Super Rugby.

According to Die Burger, the 29-year-old has already signed a deal with the French Top 14 side and is expected to depart following this year’s Super Rugby campaign.

However, a Stormers spokesperson told keo.co.za that a statement would be made in due course.

Habana was named SA’s 2012 Player of the Year after showing great form last season and also scored the IRPA Try of the Year against the All Blacks in Dunedin during the Rugby Championship.

Toulon already have South African loose forward Joe van Niekerk and lock Bakkies Botha on their books. Former Springbok utility forward Danie Rossouw will also arrive from Suntory Sungoliath after the 2012-13 Japanese club season.

While it is one thing to have senior guys going overseas for a payday its quite another to lose Stander, Quinton Roux, Nick Koster etc and have guys like Francois Louw not playing in SA.

 


clevermike

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 09:30:25

Beeno

Please read my last paragraph of my previous poosting under this thread.   To be quite frank the playes mentioned by you have received very poor handling by their franchises.   Koster had a vey long injury lay-off and the Stormers have always rated him - but he was rather not the rule.   Roux and Stander were badly treated and did not make the starting team of their franchises regularly  and was even left of the bench at times.   Really bad selection in their cases and no doubt they felt that they had a minimal future in SA Rugby..

Louw may have felt at the time that his Springbok career was over - with all the hype about Brussouw - and left for greener pastures and to earn more money than we can dream about in SA.   

I believe that Louw and Stander are top class players and Stander in particular left because of bad local treatment by the Bulls - mainly because they insisted to play their show pony at 8 and a donkey at 7..  


Beeno1

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 10:08:02

Mike I agree with the selections being poor. Roux could have been selected ahead of Steenkamp for example and Stander wa a class act and a place could have been found for him more often with the bulle.

The fact of the matter is that Stander who dispite being virtually certain to have made the Boks, choose to go to Ireland and it appears he plans to play for them at international level. Will we see Roux and Koster back. We have by no mens seen the best of these three players yet.

It is deeply concerning to see a trend emmerging where top young prospets go overseas. Not calling them up for the Boks can also back fire  -they then get selected for England, France etc. No easy answer I guess. The problem appears to be largely financial as is the solution. How do we fund the funds to make it worthwhile for Bok contenders to stay at home.

 

 


canrugby

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RE: Habana reportedly signs for Toulon
January 11, 2013, 22:22:59

I don't really see a worry with older players moving to different leagues. When Guys like Goosen, Etzebeth, JP Pietersen, and Pat Lambie start going to the NH leagues, then I would start to worry.


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