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SS-Mole

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wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 11:04:52

 Can we please log all further comments on this topic on a single thread?

To summarize the other posts-. 

It seems [removed] turned up at a night club owned by Moz dressed as a  hobo. Was it fancy dress night?

That Moz was expecting a Bakkies Botha like frame, but instead got Ricky January. 

[removed] treated the staff badly and never even had a coat with him on a cold  night in England-

[removed] has just left court and may not have brought his coat with him.

Gravity was pulling Mozes body to the ground as he drank a glass of wine.

Is this everything?--

All future comments on this topic to be added below


Jalapeno!

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 12:03:47

I have only two comments to add to that summary:

 

Firstly - quite apart from the trivial and mindless matter of who is half a centimetere taller than the other - the real issue here is that Moffie has proven himself to be the kind of person who would meet a fellow message board poster for a drink and then slag him off about his physical appearance publicly on the message board afterwards. Whatever else, that is tacky, common and low-class behaviour.

 

Secondly, I think we can all agree it's a jolly good thing that Moffie has never stood alongside a fellow poster at a urinal! Can you even imagine how he'd carry on if he had the smaller [removed] (and I suspect that would be the case)?


Beeno1

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 12:10:53

This folks is an extreme loonie thread so be warned and move on if necessay.

rooitwit has been obsessive re [removed] size in the past and has clearly not got over his obssession!  Up your game rooitwit!

 


Jalapeno!

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 12:31:37

Baboon-ou, why don't you just shove off and leave Beeno10 to post on your behalf?

 

Seriously, it's a win-win situation for you. From what little I've read of Beeno10, he's cleverer than you, funnier than you, more original than you and he knows a lot more about rugby than you . . . so your reputation will actually be enhanced while you just hang around your enclosure, eat bananas and play in your tyre-swing all day.

 

Think about it!


bluebok

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 13:06:56

Please please please lord, let the rugby start!!! I can't take this stupidity anymore. I have the smallest penis, I am the fattest guy here and I am an ugly midget that has never seen a game of rugby and I have an IQ of less than 90. I think that about covers the main points of interest on the site at the moment....I am the worst possible poster here, so you can all pick on me now! 


mozart

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 16:36:17

Become a Province supporter and we'll overlook all that Bluebok!


carpetmuncher

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 16:49:25

hahahahahah so this is what rugby deprived forum posters do when there is no rugby on the tele hey hahahahaha

 

@bluebok its ok mate we still love you despite all your shortcomings LOL


Beeno1

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 16:52:42

Muncher we are all going daft here and even Mike cracked up this morning.Sweaty


bluebok

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 16:57:32

Moz, no matter how bad things get for me personally, I could never get as low as being a Province supporter!!! :)


carpetmuncher

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 16:59:55

@beeno hahahaha its ok buddy its ok we will get our fix pretty soon :)

 

@bluebok...true words have never been spoken :P at least you have that going for you


Beeno1

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 17:19:35

Bluebok please - guys like you have to go through a long stringent application process and are generally found unworthy of the high honour f being a WP man! Ask yourself hav eyou go twhat it takes?

I just trust your team wakes up this year and kicks  nz butt especially on tour where the blou bulle tend to become blou calves!! 

I have been telling the kiwis to watch out for the top three SA sides which to me look stronger this year than last.  They keep babling on about  the wee chiefies not at all realising that their win last year was most fortunate - Sharks travel - Stormers injuries etyc. Luck was with them for sure and is unlikely to so favour them again.


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 22:20:10

If the Bulls come to play this year, they have a good chance of finishing 2nd on the SA conference log behind the Sharks. They look to have a decent squad but they need to be a lot better on the road and not just a force in PTA.

 

I could be wrong but I think Stormers ran their race last year and over the previous few years. They have lost Habana now, no more Jacques Fourie. JDV needs to be managed a lot better as he gets older so I reckon Stormers will fall away second half of the comp due to lack of depth. I dont believe De Allende and the likes can be classed as "great depth!" Every year they have lost more and more classy players and they are battling to replace these guys quick enough. Much like the phase the Bulls find themselves in. Thats what happens when you buy a team for the short term. You will get a championship contending team now, but later you left with rookies and a massive rebuild!


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 10, 2013, 23:21:55

Beenkop where did you say you got your AC?


SS-Mole

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 13, 2013, 02:06:28

 so the plot thickens...

Beeno1 recieved a copy of some do[removed]ent stating [removed]s height and weight"

Beeno1
 
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RE: Moz the liar
January 11, 2013, 09:00:33

I Beeno (widely applauded as a rugby legend)  received a copy of the said do[removed]ent by email this morning (7.50am) and can confirm without any hesitation that the said do[removed]ent reflects a height of 1.80.

I would also inform all members of the board and the wider viewing audience (including our international viewers) that as a  consequence of being CA (SA) in good standing (A fact sometimes disputed by very foolish and immature mongs) I am a South African commisioner of oaths and can can be relied on in such matters

Is this sufficient evidence? 

Is Beeno1 credibale?

Perhaps this do[removed]ent should be uploaded the the board for judgement.


SS-Mole

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 16, 2013, 15:41:40

 Is this matter now considered closed without the board recieving the said do[removed]ent to be reviewed and judged upon? 


SS-Mole

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 17, 2013, 03:42:51

 As you all know this is the offical thread that summarizes the Soap Opera of [removed] vs Mozart.

- The latest developments are-

1. [removed] has emailed Moz behind the back of the whole board to request they pretend to agree with each other. Also known as white-flag gate.

2. [removed] has failed to prove the board with proof that he is not the shape of Ricky January

3. TBC

 


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 17, 2013, 05:01:44

Due to Mozart exposing Saff, Saff has tried to call a truce and sweep it under the carpet.

Saff's reluctance to front with a recent photo (no longer than 2 weeks ago) has got me wondering whether Saff is infact, a wee little oompaloompa with a bad attitude.

All his "sources" have not seen him recently. I picture him to be this nasty little man who retires to his computer everynight with pies, coke and chips and logs on to blogs all night long (he is on at ridiculous times) to scoff his face and tear into people on a personal level whilst dreaming he knew what it took to play the game he "knows" so much about and everyone else has no clue on..

I suggested to him he google midget rugby to get him out and about a bit.


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 17, 2013, 11:30:58

Its common knowledge that Beenkop is as thick as pig [removed]. Bocklogic you have just joined the queue.

Got to love your call on a truce - man you really are stupid.

So wiseman are you saying that Becs has not seen me recently?


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 17, 2013, 11:36:18

 Lets not get Becs involved. I dont know who she is to you or who she even is. She could be a dummy profile you have made for all I know.


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 17, 2013, 11:59:02

Oh good one - so Becs is a dummy profile - and they let you into NZ?

 

Here is a suggestion, refrain from sweeping statements about subjects you know nothing about.

 

I know Becs very well, she's just over an hours drive away in Northampton, the home of the Saints. 12 of my squad are in the Saints academy

 


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 01:27:58

You have such a forceful nature that your first instinct is to insult before you read. I read somewhere that you are a solicitor? Would have thought you needed brains for that.

 

Please read my post again where it says, "She COULD be a dummy profile for all I know!" not she IS a dummy profile.

You are the only dummy here. Really are thick and England is lucky to have you. Saints academy must really be looking thin of talent if a moron like you has anything to do with coaching.


SS-Mole

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 16:02:51

 Hot of the press! As allways keeping you up to date with the latest saga in the Soap opera.

We endeavour to bring you to best highlights as they happen.

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  poi-e
 
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RE: Baby Boks team v UWC tomorrow
January 18, 2013, 14:04:52

The Dave list of quoatables....

 

 

1. "That's bull[removed]",

2. "You guys don't expect us to believe that"

3. "[removed] off"

4. "You're stupid"

5. "Catch a wake up bird brain"

6. "I'm 6 footish"

7. "I coach an under 10's side, 4 of them made Northhampton academy"

8. "still lying Moffie"

9. "stop speaking [removed],

10. "just ask Becs"

11. "just ask Becs"

12. "just ask Becs"

 

 

 


  [removed]
 
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RE: Baby Boks team v UWC tomorrow
January 18, 2013, 15:44:36

Poohie nice to see nothing has changed with you and you are still the pathetic twat you have always been - why not add that to my list of quotes.

 

Do I mean that much to you that you took the trouble to compile that heap of [removed] - I'll send you my address for no doubt a xmas card is on the cards for later in the year

 


becs

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 17:06:20

Boklogic, I'm not a " dummy profile ", whatever that might be. I'm a real person who does know [removed] incredibly well. I'm a female, 5ft 3 and a bit...can give you my vital stats if you want, but I suppose they'll be made up too ? ( That's actually a joke, obviously )

The business between [removed] and Mozart has gone on for years, I have been on sites they frequent for about 5 or 6 years now and the nastiness has always prevailed, initially Mozart tended to call [removed] stupid and make disparaging comments about his intellect.

After they met, things did calm a little but the whole short and fat and bald and ugly and not rich enough to own a jacket thing really intensified after Mozart mistakenly thought [removed] was laughing at a picture that had been posted earier in the day which purported to be of Mozart. What Mozart doesn't know, and didn't wait to find out, was that [removed] was in Court that day and came back to see a number of pics purporting to be of fellow posters on that board, like the dumb Beeno one we keep seeing, and he commented about how funny it was. He didn't know that Mozart, I believe, had demanded the removal of the one purporting to be of him, at this time, but Mozart just ripped into him from there on in. I told [removed] what had happened that he had missed and he was going to tell Mozart that he hadn't been aware of all of the facts, that he more or less presumed we'd all had joke pics put up of us there for a giggle, but by then ? Well, [removed] was fat and poor and had no jacket, basically he was an ugly fat dwarf. So ? That's what has been going on ever since. Those of us who have met [removed] have disputed the facts and been told we are all liars. As I said years ago, it wouldn't matter how many independant assessors looked at [removed] and registered the facts, they would still be at odds with Mozart's views and it would thus be a pack of lies.

As I keep saying, I know [removed]. I know him better than anyone here and I know how he looks and what he is really like. But that counts for nothing, I'm afraid.

Beeno likes to add his twopenneth by claiming I am a lust driven obsessive that hangs on every word [removed] utters, to really make my views look invalid, but the reality is, he's the obsessive, driven by the desire to please someone who has been unkind to him over the years and whose email address he didn't even have until Denny asked me to put him in touch with himself and Mozart ! Really, it's all so tragic.


mozart

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 18:12:57

I almost shed a tear thinking I was reading Les Miserables.....then I bethought myself and realized it was just becs protecting her man. Dave being overweight and way under 6 ft has nothing to do with any picture posted of me. Nor did our argument, which actually centered on Jake White and the Dave's denigration of the Boks 2007 RWC win.

 

You really are pretty obsessed becs.


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 18:46:35

Its so long ago and made so little impression on me that I dont know why Moffie and I started the bargie, but long may it continue.

I never denigrated the Bok win, I just had an issue with Jake as he was an average to poor coach who should have been sacked pre the WC given his pathetic record leading up to the WC.

He was saved by a great Bok side, a easier draw and the brains of Eddie Jones. Sadly good old Jake has spooned off these very facts

Becs thanks for reminding me of this episode, I do now recall that brilliant bit of artistic flair Rooinek displayed with Moffie's mug. It was light hearted and should have been treated as such

Knowing you and the memory you have, I'm inclinded to go with your version of the tiff - thanks babe xxx

 


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 19:12:42

Boklog in response to your little tirade, you are correct in that I would not have made your club side in my prime for I would not have entertained any interest in lowering my standards to that of bunch of girls in skirts. I reckon my under 16 side would give your sad lot a snot klap.

 

As for the Saints academy, that has nothing to do with me, I just have a whole of of players who represent the academy - great for the lads as its the pinacle of what they can achieve at representitive level.

 

Nope you dont need brains to be a solicitor, just the savy to know a twat when read one!!


poi-e

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 19:14:03

 just the savy to know a twat when read one!!

 

 

 Have you read any of your own posts recently?


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 19:17:52

Yeah I take it all so seriously, have you missed me?


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 22:58:04

   Becs comment - Beeno likes to add his twopenneth by claiming I am a lust driven obsessive that hangs on every word [removed] utters,

Sorry Lady Becs but I never said anything like that and never would to a women. You are confusing me with someone else.  Perhaps it was long ago but a more likely candidate would be rooitwit at the time he andou snapster were at loggerheads.

So surprised am I by the comment that I wonder if you are not  snapster in disguise after all. You always arrive in time to save his sorry butt. Why would Becs, if a genuine person, want to have a dig at me as I have always treated her well and even supported England!

Maybe its just a memory loss but my suspicions have been aroused but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Becs you very unreasonably make out that ou snapster is beyond reproach but anyone can tell he is a real hound dog!  You only have to consider his whole unfortunate stance regarding Victors weight to know he could be economical with the truth about his own very vital statistics. Why he wants to keep on about his very vital statistics is a mystery to me and any others.

 

 


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 18, 2013, 23:33:59

Beenkop I can assure you Becs is all of woman and a very attractive one at that


mozart

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 19, 2013, 01:14:23

"Becs is all of woman"? I assume you mean "all woman".

 

Sure I accept that but how does she feel about your other paramour....Jal?


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 19, 2013, 01:23:46

Moffie you seem a little hung up on the fact that Rooinek and I get on?


mozart

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 19, 2013, 01:39:33

Not at all Fat Man, maybe the two of you in combination could provide a little more opposition. But it was  you who was describing the warmth and love you shared with Jal, I'm very accepting of your  right to choose.


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 19, 2013, 01:48:10

Trust you to be stupid enough to interpret it literally hey Moffie!!!!!!!!!!


mozart

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 19, 2013, 07:13:06

Fat Man, you went on about the bonding and affection you found with Jal. I see now that your calling me Moffie, was not at all derogatory, but more of a code of some kind. I unfortunately am not of your persuasion so I can't join your high jinks. But I'm sure Jal is enough for you.

 

I'm glad you came forward totally of your own volition on this, I wouldn't want to be accused of tricking you into saying something you would later regret. I only hope Jal feels the same way.


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 06:16:26

 You see [removed], talk is cheap. Its so easy to talk over internet about your self proclaimed rugby prowess but please dont for 1 second think we believe you or are in awe of you. Like everything else you say, we know the truth is a little far fetched.

Send your under 16's...Doubt they any good judging by the under 15 side. Kicks at goal from conversions are coming up short and being hacked over the poles by opposition players. Sounds like a circus really!!

 

If Becs is so hot, why she hanging around with you? Are you just the friend every girl has thats waiting to come out??


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 13:13:55

Ah good one Moffie bless you


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 13:19:59

Boklog, you clearly are a stupid [removed] judging by your response to pap regarding club strengths in your area - but maybe you responded when you were pissed?

 

Where did I proclaim rugby prowess, I just said I know my rugby and I clearly know more than you judging by the crap you post on here.

 

Not sure what u15 side has to do with anything, its u16. So wise man are you saying that test players conversions never land short or that senior players do not sometimes fly hack a ball and it goes wrong - how stupid are you?

 

As for Becs, well she is just hot


becs

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 20:30:11

Beeno, you have said many times that I am obsessed by [removed] and would simply back him in any way because of this. And you know it. That is a simple fact.

If you actually knew anything about my relationship with [removed], you would know that I certainly do not have any desire to blindly agree with him and I also stand my ground when I disagree with him. Simple as that. Just because he is a man, it doesn't mean he is always right. And he knows that's what I think, because I have told him so, many times over the years.

I could post a picture of myself, if I knew how to. It wouldn't prove I am really who I say I am though, would it ? I'm just a regular female, nothing special, which I'm sure you would all love to tell me if you saw me. There are a number of differences to indicate that I am not [removed] though, I suppose you failed Human Biology, did you ? Otherwise you would already know, wouldn't you ? :) 

 


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 21:42:42

Saff you really are a stupid p0es! The problem with constantly lying is that you need to remember what you write. Now let me copy and paste your statement!!

 

"Boklog in response to your little tirade, you are correct in that I would not have made your club side in my prime for I would not have entertained any interest in lowering my standards to that of bunch of girls in skirts!"

 

Now you ask me where did you proclaim your rugby prowess!! Right there a$$hole!! You imply that you played at a level higher than that of a NZL premier club. You mentioned that would be "lowering your standards" which implies that you would have gone a few steps further which would be provincial rugby or even international?

 

You so argumentative and first option is to personally attack people that you forget what you said. As for your statement that you clearly know more about rugby than me based on what I write..Well thats just a laugh. No one here has ever agreed with you but then I guess we all dumb [removed]s that know nothing. Ha ha if it were up to you, our best players from last season would never feature. JDV is apparently past it yet you have never listed any reasons why..Saff, you the one who is "passed it" and should probably quit posting but then again, you have never been "on to it!"

 


Saffex

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 22:11:55

Boklog, one thing that is clearly apparent is that you are both stupid and out of your depth here dimwit. I have not lied about anything and have no reason in the world to lie to make a point. I meant what I said above, for you were the twat that started beating your chest about the level of rugby you had played only to be exposed by Brycy who said the club you played for were a bunch of clowns.

 

Given this very fact and knowing the level I played at it was easy to conclude that I would never have entertained the idea of wanting to lower myself to the level of rugby you are playing now - that is beneath me! That is not proclaiming rugby prowess you dumbass its just setting ones sights higher than the girlie level you currently play at. By all accounts prowess is not required at your level, just a big mouth.

 

As for Jean, he was past it two seasons ago - for the simple reason he creates nothing at 12 these days. He has lost his clout with age and no longer has the synergy to be creative. The spark has gone, as has the agility and flair. Its an age thing much like we saw in Mortlock for instance. Jean's best bet these days is to bash it up, for he no longer has the fleet of foot or acceleration off the mark to beat his man with skill. Do you get this or are you too thick to take it in? No need to answer, I am ahead of you here.

 

Here is a suggestion Boklog, give it up for I will chew you up and spit you out everytime, much like I would have done on the rugby field, you are such easy pickings!!


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 23:16:12

Saff, some people talk and some people do. Its clear to see which one you are.

I will take your challenge up anyday. Short and overweight blokes on a rugby field are hardly scary. Licking my lips as we speak. With your odd shape, I would be inclined to go over the top of you to really embarrass you but then again, you cant tackle what you cant catch.

 

Its easy for you and Brycy to comment on the level of rugby seeing as none of you would come close to making the team. If you judge a level of rugby by the teams results then you are dimmer than you were yesterday which takes some doing. That just shows the level of competition. We dont need to harp on this because you and I and everyone else on the board knows you not worth [removed]! People that can, do! People that cant, teach!! Didn't you say you were a coach??

 

Dave, give it up. Your comments and ideas are a laugh, much like your appearance in a rugby kit.

P.s Dave..You do not possess the intellect to "chew me up and spit me out!" You are the only one who thinks your knowledge of rugby is great. The rest of us just shake our heads at your pure dillusion on warped sense of reality.

 

All good to set your sights higher but come on Dave. Fine line between reality and fantasy. You seem to be living in the world of the latter. I set my sights on playing for the Boks so I am not going to waste my time with premier club rugby..Ha ha can you hear how stupid you sound. P.S Saff..Nothing is beneath you buddy..Especially not a decent women judging by that profile pic!!


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 23:25:25

One last thing..Your comment re. Jean being past it 2 seasons ago. He was one of our best, if not the best back at the WC. Go watch his game against Aus in the QF. He cut their line like a hot knife through butter. Steyn would not have taken the 12 jersey back in the form JDV found during that competition. Steyn would have likely played at 15 in place of Lambie.

 

You have just got it drilled into your head that JDV is useless no matter what he does. Then again you are the oke that thinks Engelbrecht and Taute are better players. Ha ha we laughing at you Saff.


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 20, 2013, 23:46:47

Oh Boklog, my heart bleeds for you and your stupidity. So according to you I talk and don't do - how did you conclude that dimwit, do you know me, do you posses a crystal ball or are you just sucking as you have a habit of doing.

 

Thing is wee man, if people thought so little of my rugby comments, they would not bother responding to me at every call. Is that usually associated with someone who does not know what they are talking about.

 

So you also have me down as short and fat then - please enlighten me on how you derived at this conclusion? A little advise, think before you answer this one, given the history attached to this subject. We don't want you putting your foot in it now do we?

 

Given the standard of your response to me above, are you saying you are more intelligent than me - just asking? I got an A in home economics at school!!

 

How did you establish that I wanted to play rugby now, I threw in the towel some years ago. As for your standard, Brycy confirmed exactly what I suspected. Where do you get that I wanted to play for the Boks, dimwit - how stupid are you, again don't answer that?

 

As for Jean, he is past it, has been for 2 seasons, WC was seasons back. And my guess is that if I checked that break you mention, it will not amount to much. Jean was the best 12 I have seen play for SA, but that was in his prime, that was a good few years ago.

 

Tell me, what do you think of pink elephants and bedside tables?

 

 


Boklogic

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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 00:47:36

[removed], one thing you need to remember is sarcasm is nature's cover up for stupid! You possess this in masses.

People respond to you often trying to correct and enlighten you but then they are subject to abuse and you to drill your beliefs into everyone. I think its short, fat man syndrome you got there. You feel inferior to us athletic types. You had to throw the towel in when you couldn't make geriatric teams so you decided to coach them. Or maybe you were just the towel boy even in your younger days.. I cant see you being any better than a social wannabe..I picture you to be full of stories about your so called rugby prowess when in reality you are a never was teletubby!! You call me wee man standing at 6'4 tall? You will get crushed u little slob...

 

I can summise you short and fat because this whole conversation hurt you way more than it should have... I mean, u debated this for days when you should have laughed it off. Mozart has seen you, as has Becs. Mozart says you fat, Becs says you not. I dont know either of them so why must I believe what you have prepped a friend to say. She is just obviously a nice lady trying to help a friend out.

I believe Moz over you anyday as I have already seen far too much [removed] written from you.

I am for for you and your "A" in home ec. You also achieved an "A" in being an [removed] along with an "F" in Rugby Knowledge. No doubt an "A" came your way in Pie eating contest too...

Well you said that you would not subject yourself to the level of rugby I play at. Well the next step up would be harbour representation. Just like when I played at collegians. Next step up would have been rep rugby for one of the Natal teams. I can admit that I am not good enough. You have made it clear that you were. Pity we didnt get to see you play more in your provincial team! Brycy will go against anything I say. Thats what he does so im not worried too much about that.

 

Jean was our best back this season u foolish sod! What dont you understand about that. Not 2 seasons back. Not 5 years ago..A few months ago twat! You have nothing to base your statements on but you just randomly make them. You name 1 centre this year who played better than Jean!! Cant argue with a [removed] like you!


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January 21, 2013, 01:23:56

Boklog you have just proved how stupid you are. Its not only Moffie and Becs that have met me, add Jal and Clevermike, who both have said I am neither fat or short - so well done on believing the lying Moffie and exposing yourself for the idiot that you are. Game set and match as they say.

 

Brycy has you down to a T, you are a lying little twat who comes running onto a messageboard bragging about the level of rugby he has played only to fall flat on his face - ouch it must hurt.

 

Oh yes and I also got an A in needlework!

 

As for Jean he has been bloody useless and part of the reason the Boks were so average in 2012

 

Frans was way better than Jean in 2012 at 12 and Taute was way better than Jean at 13 - Jean was pathetic at 13


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 01:36:55

As stated previously, Brycy will argue with me if I tell him night will become day! He just does that. We rubbed each other up the wrong way in the beginning and thats all I can say about that.

One of the other kiwi posters told you that your club would not stand a chance against Bays. No I dont boast or brag about my rugby skills because they are really no better than thousands of other average joes out there. I am never going to make it further than where I play now and have never claimed that. You on the other hand have claimed that you played at a high level. Just like the debate of your weight + height...PROVE it knob!!

For the last time, Bays have not been title challengers the past few seasons. Neither have the Lions or Blues but due to their results, would your half baked team now beat them or would you not "sink" to that level of rugby? Truth is u just simply not good enough. You a wrapping yourself in a tangle over this and trying to involve Brycy at every corner to get the heat of your pathetic self. Mike saw you some years ago. Judging by the amount of time u spend infront of your computer being a doos, you have had plenty time to get fatter...Would love to meet you in real life so I can teach you some manners...

Even if you are not short or fat, you are ugly and the pic is up for all to see buddy!

 

Im not gona respond to your remarks about Jean. Afterall, you are the wanker who thinks JJ and Taute were a revelation. Ha ha deluded oke you are. If JDV was poor, JJ and Taute should consider soccer!!


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 01:43:45

So let me guess I have shrunk since I met Mike and Jal who met me not that long ago is just lying then as is Becs, man you are one ignorant twit. Do you really think this is about me being short and fat or about the fact that Moffie has been exposed for lying about it - work it out brainbox

 

I said my U16 side would smack you lot, I said nothing about the senior side playing you.

 

As for Jean, he is done - JJ and Taute have their whole rugby careers ahead of them to look forward to - it happens to the best of us. Given the standard you play, why not just chuck in that towel now and devote more time to filling out that stringbean 6'4 frame - can I suggest pork pies, that is how I got fat and hell they affected my height to


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 02:37:26

Ha ha yeah I should chuck the towel in but I still enjoy a good run around to keep fit and active. You should try it. Start on a hamster wheel though.

 

"Your" u16 side would probably be useless if your selections for the Boks are anything to go by. A lock playing at centre to accommodate a flanker who cant find a place in the loose trio so must play lock just to get on the park. Your'e a joke Saff man!

 

I dont really wana fill out too much now. If I get less active, I will pick up 5 or 6 kg's at the expense of lean muscle but what for? Prefer to be faster and lighter. I will get fatter as I get older but im not gona let myself go and become the man in your profile pic in need of a good haircut and some man scaping help. I can send you a pic of me charging down the sideline with ball in hand in my first game for Bays if you wana see what a real athlete looks like! I was still in the senior firsts at the time and were losing semi finalists that year. They went on to win it the year after!

 

You right, Taute and JJ have their whole careers ahead. JJ's career should be spent at the Bulls and no further whilst Taute has made the best career choice possible at this stage and will stick with a position he has an idea about..Fullback. He may reassess in years to come but for now, his skills for centre match your rugby knowledge. Extremely limited!


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 02:51:57

Nope my U16 side is pretty damn hot, with 12 of them in the Saints Academy, three of which have been sent to regional England U17 trials - so its a year up for them and guess what one is a 12 the other a 13, Third one is 6'8 and weighs 110kg - he should go all the way at lock, One of these 3 should go on to play for England - time will tell - remember the names Waddleton, Ives and Moon,

 

JJ has thr skill set to make it as our rest wing - there is no doubting that, Taute coud play 13 or 15, but we need him at 13


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 03:47:14

[removed], we dont need Taute at 13. It would be good if he pulled through as an exceptional 13 but currently he is not that. We need Jordaan at 13. He is our best available at the moment. Taute good be our best 15 and we NEED him to displace Kirchener who frankly is little more than acceptable. He offers nothing more, nothing less than acceptable. I hear Jacque Fourie was coming back to SA for 1 last world cup. How true is that? If he is fit and can make the next world cup, he needs to be there aiding Taute. Taute is not a natural centre. He is better suited to 15 and that is a fact.

 

JJ is not consistent enough to play for the Boks in any position. He can play some really good rugby and then he can produce some really below par crap. If he can be consistently good then he has a big future because he does have some great skills and size on his side.

 

What you will probably find is a guy like De Allende leap frog both Taute and JJ. I dont know how good he is and only seen him play once against the Sharks in CC final but I read what others on here have said about him.

 


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 09:01:07

Becs I never said you were "a lust driven obsessive" when it comes to ou snapster. How could I have said that  being the realist I am an having all these details about ou snapster's height and girth. Hahahahahahahahhahahaha

No you certainly owe my an apology Lady Becs.


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 13:49:40

Beeno.....you have oft made claims that I am simply saying things because I am some how in love with [removed], to try to make whatever I say that backs him against Mozart, look stupid. I do not owe you any apology for anything, particularly not given how you constantly stick your nose into the business of others when you know nothing of the facts or the people.

Boklogic. I have not been prepped by anyone to say anything. I am not the sort of person to behave in that way and that is the truth.

As [removed] has constantly told you, I have met him, as have Jal and Mike. Three of us dispute Mozart's claims and many more felt that the manner in which Mozart made the comments was really uncalled for and pretty bad form. Yet we are all supposedly wrong, are we ?

And, as the only female to have met him, I do still find it odd that Mozart was so hung up on another man's looks and build etc. I must admit, you all do puzzle me in that regard !!


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 14:02:29

Becs I never said you were "a lust driven obsessive" re snapster. How about a sincere heart felt apology. Come on its the right thing to do. Happy

Also when you post on  meesage board one gets all sorts of responses from various folk. Its no tactually butting in at all. Name m eone person who doesn't butt in as you call it . 

Beeno holding the errant Becs to account


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 16:54:09

Boklog, we do need Taute at 13, for we dont need him at 15, given we should be playing Lambie at 15, given Goosen should be our 10. My opinion on this will never change as I could never sell myself short and have one of Goosen or Lambie wasted on the bench - that would just never happen with me.

 

Taute was our best test option at 13 last year, this was confirmed after watching his Oz performance again as I could not believe all the [removed] I was reading about that performance. He has only had 3 tests and should be allowed a good few more tests to establish himself.

 

Jordaan is certainly an option depending on his performances in this years S15, same applies to JJ. Taute is ahead of these two as he has shown his worth over the past few seasons. I am a big fan of all 3 as I would be if JP was moved to 13. I also like Pat Howard but sadly he is playing for WP and wont get game time - he is a better prospect than de Jongh. JP du Plessis is another.

 

de Allende looks a good prospect, but we need to see plenty more of him. He looks like he could play 12 or 13, same can be said of the impressive Jan Serfontein

 

[removed] me what happened to all the abuse!!


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 22:09:52

Im over abusing you now Saff. Its just going around in circles because I dont know a thing about you so not much to get you on there. Besides, its way too close to super rugby time and I hope all this juvenile banter between us bloggers (that is becoming way too personal) takes a back seat for some good rugby talk.

 

Having said that, people are different. Thats what makes us each unique and the world more than just a robotic factory. Your thoughts will never mirror mine and vice versa. I tell you that you are wrong and you tell me that I am wrong. Reality is neither of us are wrong. We just want different things.

 

In respect to JDV. You say he is past it. If I am honest with you and myself, JDV is not the same player he was but thats is to be expected. The man has been around over a decade now. He will slow up and the years of rugger will take its toll. Its just at the moment, we do not have a centre playing as well as him. He was huge for us in an average Bok performance this year. I thought he offered little at 13 but at 12, he steadied the ship somewhat. He may struggle to be in contention for the next WC so we need to use this season to find someone to do the job. One would think Steyn was the natural choice but he needs to not sit back on his name and what he once was. He needs to be good for the Sharks and get back into shape!

 

At 13, Taute was not terrible and he can be forgiven for not being exceptional in his first couple of games. He will settle in if he is afforded the opportunity. I just think he is so much more dangerous from 15 and looks more comfortable back there. Jordaan is more of a natural. He is quicker, lighter on his feet and has been a revelation for the Sharks. JP and Habana need to remain 14 and 11 respectively.

 

Lambie at 15 for me is not offering a whole lot more than Kirchener. I feel he lacks that express pace that makes a fullback transition from good and safe to superb. Montgomery was good. He was safe. He was not a brilliant 15. You just knew he would do the basics tight. Lambie looks so dangerous from 10. He is a ball player and often does his best work in the face of opposition. He does do a good job at 15 though so really what needs to happen is he needs to pick a position and play nowhere else but in that position because he admittedly was getting sick of being a yoyo and it ruined his chances of selection this year. Meyer did not know where he would benefit the team most so he was duely left on the bench to see where he was needed. No good for his development.


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 23:16:07

Well I do disagree with you on most points expect for the prospect of Jordaan at 13 although my reservation with him is his physicality, but this years S15 should confirm either way. He is not naturally big but has muscled up nicely, so lets just hope its enough.

 

Taute at 15 would be no quicker than Lambie at 15 or Ludik. Goosen is by some distance our best 10 and willl be the Bok 10 and deservedly so - no contest there and Meyer knows it. For this reason Lambie has to play 15.

 

Jean as I said was the best Bok 12 I have seen, with the exception of Frans at times. Problem with Frans is that he has been away and has never had an extended run at 12 for the Boks - now is the time. He is just what we need at 12, strength, physicality and skill.

 

Jean was poor in 2012. Of the 12 tests he played 3 or 4 were ok, the rest were poor. If the Boks are to progress this year, Jean has to go


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 23:28:14

Taute is a little quicker than Lambie and he is a more powerful runner. Lambie is deceptive in that he has a good fend and if you come in to lightly for the tackle, he will push you off but Taute is stronger.

For me, Ludik based on form would have been capped last year. No doubt. He was awesome for the Lions (better than Taute has been for them) and has brought that to the Sharks. What more must he do to get a cap!

 

Jordaan has that x factor everyone talks about. Size or lack there of doesn't apply in his case. He just has that x factor...

I wouldn't say Goosen is better than Lambie. I mean, Lambie has directed the Sharks to finals, Goosen has helped the Cheetahs be awesome at times in attack but they are still bottom of the loggers. With guys like Rhule, Andries Strauss, Daniller, Piet Van Zyl and Goosen, the Cheetahs have no excuses anymore. Their front row is about on par with the Sharks.. They could easily switch jerseys and be the Bok front row. Lambie, like you mention with Frans, just needs an extended run and stop being jerked around. I would back Lambie to be a better 10 than Goosen if given the chance. Let Lambie play to his own style as he does with the Sharks and he will be awesome. Everyone raves about Goosen's game against Aus because the pressure was on Meyer to replace Morne and bring back running rugby. What better game than against a depleted Aus team? Lambie, if given the opportunity that game, would have produced a special performance too. No doubt.

 

I am not saying Goosen is not good. He is a phenomenal talent but Lambie has not been given the same treatment. In my opinion, maybe not yours, Lambie is a better all round player!


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RE: wee fat Saffex vs Mozart
January 21, 2013, 23:38:18

Disagree on the speed thing, I cant see Lambie being any slower than Taute or Ludik. Lambie has proved his worth as a fullback for the Boks already.

 

As for x factor, Goosen has that at 10 and HAS to be the Bok 10. He is definately better than Lambie at 10. Lambie is better in space and therefore 15 will suit him.

 

The Cheetahs have too many substandard players to ever compete with the best sides. No centres of note and Daniller is useless. They have no locks and average loosies bar Brussouw and v/d Walt, but Brussouw spends much of his time injured these days, same with Coenie in the frontrow.

 

Goosen shone in an average Cheetahs side that try he scored when he stuffed his shoulder up was something else. I saw that class when he played for the Baby Boks as an 18 year old. This kid is special.

 

I have always been a Ludik fan, his form dipped when he first arrived at the Sharks, but he was great in 2012. He should have made a Bok squad ages ago - its probably too late for him now 27 or so, but maybe not


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