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Brycy

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Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 08:48:33

...if yr not careful....as demonstrated when they smashed SA in the recent WC....but come the next WC, Samoa will kick yr yarpy butts no worries... a punishing start to the SA campaign meeting them in pool play ...just as well the top two teams go through...but a match to relish ay Bean Brain...yr favourite team and exponents of a distinct tackling style - very effective that haha......expect casualties...


Beeno1

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 08:58:42

Brycy ya mutt o fmutts! Yes we always seem t o draw these cowardly thugs who delight in cheap shots like no other. But in all the years htey have neve beaten the Mighty Boks

A colleague mentioned to me it may be better to come second in the pool we are in  and that we should pick our second string against Samao to avoid injuries. No wfanct hisbeing a considration.

No Samo should be banned rugby until they clean up their act. Does someone have to be killed before they take action against thes thugs.

What astonishes me is the leeway these samoan thugs are given. Imagine if the Boks or any other side played like that -there would be an outcry. Time to throw the book at the digusting samoans.  Remind sme of how ou mccaaaaw has a set of rules especially for him!! Every opportunity to site samoan players must be taken so they get the message.The gloves must come off in this matter.


Brycy

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 09:36:14

....Samoa plays a physical game Bean Brain...just like SA...they're probably saying the same about you...


clevermike

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 10:16:13

Brycy

I am really worried about you - you really suffers from delusions.   It seems to be much more realisric if you go and consult your shrink.  he will tell you that you must stop hallucinating about -

*   Bryce Lawrence not being an incomptent referee; and

*   about dreams of the 2015 WC.

Now let me spell out to you a fact not based on delusion - and that is that your Mighty Chiefs are going to lose against both the Stormers and the Sharks in the Super Series in 2013   That just may wake you up from the dream world you are living in.


Beeno1

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 10:18:20

Brycy pleeeeeease!!!! Get rid of fhose double gilded pitch balck blinkers. Samoa play dirty and their big intent is to injure.

When it comes to WC they believe that  their main task is to injure Boks to help out nz - who they regard as the best of the polynesian rugby nations and their brothers etc.

I recall in 1995 how they tried to get Mark Andrews, Andre Joubert and Joost in separate incidents. It was an eye opener and it has never changed since then. The Boks against Samoa last time round preferred not to have the ball because of the risk of injury. The ref on the day was allowing them to get away with mayhem as usual. Cant recall the name of the ref now. If we had retaliated our guys would no doubt have been banned. Such is the partiality they for some weird reason enjoy.

No ban the thugs now for a year as a message to them.  They are talented so it s apity but I think the yare now loosing firneds. The Welsh and French cant be too happy about them for sure. Fiji seems to pla ya reasobably clen gmae s owhy Samo are so bad is a question. Tonga a dirty bunch on occassions but not as bad as samoa.


All Black NZ

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 10:34:44

@Beeno  you said Samoa has never beaten the mighty Boks which is true.  Could you tell me how many International teams have.  I'm guessing at lest 8.


clevermike

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 10:47:27

All Black NZ

Af far as I can remember there are in fact 7 teams that has beaten the Springboks over the years.  They are -

*    The All Blacks;

*    The Wallabies

*    The POMS

*    The Scots

*    The Welsh

*    The Irish

*    The British Lions

The Argentinians came close with a draw this year.

I did not include the South American Jaguars in the list - since they were an invitation team that visited SA in the 1960's and comprise players from various South Americn countries in an effort to build up rugby in South America.   They played in total 8 tests and won one.   Problem is it was more of an SA "B" team that played them in the tests - and can in reality not count as test rugby in the modern sense of the word.

The only difference as to the above insofar as the All Blacks are concerned is that the Scots have never beaten the All Blacks.    Insofar as the All Blacks is concerned - the so-called World team is left out on the same grounds as is the case with the South American Jaguars.


All Black NZ

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 11:18:00

Just looked it up more differences than that you are close you forgot France (11 Times) Which makes 8 not counting the Jaguars.

I'm surprised you are only 50% with the lions and 55% against Aussie and France 60% England 77% Scotland.

The only team you have a better winning% against than the All Blacks is Wales 92% to 90%  Didn't realise the gap over history was so great.

Incidently the All Blacks have lost to 6 not counting the World 15. Thats with playing a extra 86 test matches almost a quarter more.


clevermike

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 11:23:43

All Blacks NZ

I looked up the details im Wikipedia and must have gone dilly by not including the FRENCH.  In any event I did not look at percentages at all - so thanks for the info.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


polyboy

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 06, 2012, 14:07:58

If Samoa can win consistently (and cleanly.....just to appease Beeno) they will be competitive, against the big 2 a win would be an anamoly. Beeno they appear dirty but they play a high impact, hard hitting game though at times not well controlled. As to other part of this thread, statistics etc, etc, can't be bothered, seasons over and dusted


Beeno1

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 07, 2012, 08:53:46

Brycy and Poly boy I am not disputing thir natural talent and have maintained in the past if these islanders got together and were given proper competition and coaching etc they would be a major force and compete for  pole position in the rugby world. However I vehmently oppose their thuggery and do think its only a matter of time before they kill someone on the field of play.

If they clean up their act Samoa would be a great team to watch.

Hands of my pal Brycy Mike he makes his points in a very funny  way and has a great sense of humour!  These kiwis bird brains, I mean kiwis, are a heaps of fun!  However do they really believe all this is stuff the write about the abs! All this uniformed passion!


clevermike

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RE: Samoa will kick yr butt...
December 07, 2012, 09:06:04

I see elsewhere that SA Rugby got clever and arrange a schedule of tests to be played in June 2013 against Scotland and Samoa, including also Italy. 

Scotland may be without 2 or 3 players on duty with the British Lions, but the other two would be full strength teams.   It would be interesting to see what can be expected from the competing teams - since 3 of the teams are in the same pool for WC 2015.

The interesting point in the process would be to see whether there was any real progress by the Springboks insofar as the following contentious issues that was detrimental to performances in 2012 has been made;-

*   Problematic selection criteria

*   Dealing with the "dead" backline issue

If the Springboks struggle against the three teams involved - it would be a bad sign that the two problems mentioned have not been addressed at all - and all hell will break lose as a result. 


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