RE: Heard Prof Noakes of the Sports Science Institute on radio this morning
November 24, 2012, 06:37:42
Welcome to the board - but your start here has really been not of a high order. We know what to expect from a clown like Moodaa - utter rubbish and now you reach a lower level than that nin[removed]poop.
The issue here has nothingto do with bull[removed] like the Broederbond but has to do with the game of rugby. In any event do you really know anything about the Broederbond - I live in SA and I don't know what they actually do or even whether they actually exist anymore. But I suppose then that yoour massive knowledge of SA is so comprehensive that you have factual informaion on everything - but showing complete ignotrance about issues relating to rugby. Because Prof Noakes said somehing you did not like - you use complete and utter rubbish to try and descredit him personally.
When you look at an issue like this you look basically at two spects -
* The present player scenario; and
* The future scenario.
Because the All Blacks won the latest WC for the seond time after a 24 year brek - playing a very experienced team containing some real stars and they continue with that team - does not necessarily reflect a continuance in winning in future. There is no doubt about the present teams strengths - what is doubtful is how long the present squad can last. Even the so-called second stringers are in their late 20's - there are little talent in the younger category coming through.
What I have seen from a rugby perspective is that there are definite problems in SA about future team development and team building - but it has started and will continue at a much higher level. There are major problems in backline play that needs to be addressed and there is no dount as to the superiority of the All Blacks backline. But lets get back to facts and not fiction.
For th future I would rather have a team with the age average of 25 years than one with an age average of 30 years ro try and use for future development - and that is where the problem lies. The All Black star players like Ritchie McCaw (in fact the whole forward set-up bar Reid, Romano and Whitelock needs to be replaced within the next yea or sor), as well as Carter. Nonu, Conrad Smith and even Corry Jane are rapidly nearing retirement age and what is there after them? In any event wih the exception of Cade - there is really nothing frightful about the All Black forwards coming through. Romano and Whirtelock are useful locks - that looks good when they run like centers and atrocious in fixed forward play - Retallick is a joke in bad taste. Behind the pack much is said about Cruden - a very average flyhalf - but what about the replacement of the other "rugby geriatrics" like Nonu and even Corry Jane and Conrad Smith at 30+ years of age. As per normal in New Zealand there are some good talent coming through - but to judge what is coming through from the younger generation of players - you have to look ar Super 15 level performances.
That is where there are signs of future problems. The top six teams on the log contained three SA teams and two from New Zealand. The situation is going backwards insofar as New Zealand is concerned. A few years ago there would have been at least three and even four New Zealand teams in the top 6 teams - now they are down to 2 - and signs are not good as to future competitiveness on that level. OK - the Chiefs won the trophy - but the acrual performances were influenced by extraneous factors as well - so will they repeat their win next year? I think not - since the Chiefs will have to travel next year and play the stronger SA reams in SA and not at home - and they are bound to lose in such an event. They are the best New Zealnd have - and they are not going to have an easy ride next year.
Then we have the New Zealand Under 20 team this year - as expected showed some good backline play and some cardboard forward play - a bad sign for the future.
Why don't many people in New Zealand ever find anything wrong or any danger signs for the future. Those who do make valuable contributions to this site and they see things comprehensively. The rest are the donkey thinkers with bird brains that discredit the image of New Zealand rugby fans. Some say the New Zealand Rugby forums - where things are discussed are not up to standard and the reason is obvious.
Members here think differently on the issue and criticize things in SA Rugby to such an extent that we are aoften called to order by New Zealand Members when we go overboard in that regard - in New Zealand it is a mortal sin to even rhink about criticism. Self-satisfaction without objectivity and sound future planning is normally disastrous and that is where posters like you should wake up and start becoming thinkers - not unthinking psyphofants.
Please get back to sound scientifically based issues - thn there is a sound basis for discussion - and we can then debate pertinent issues and not imaginary rubbish like the Broederbond.