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Sharkbok

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What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 16, 2012, 21:11:14

 Will the naysayers admit they were wrong?

It was only 2 years ago that he was named sa player of the year

Gurthro Steenkamp


sasuke uchiha

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 16, 2012, 21:35:05

thats one cool picture, :o)

if steenkamps has a good game, i would be surprised but u need to remember that it is
scotland and a good game should be the 2nd easily obtained objective.

i still say his selection is a wate of time, espeiclall with the likes
of kitshoff back home (unless hes injured???).
that red headed heavyweight is the future of the Boks front row and
meyer has squandered an opportunity to take kitshoff on the EOYT.

come to think about it, theres only one game left after soctland and
its going to be more or less the same as meyer fields the strongest
team possible, making me wonder about those selected
but havent played a game,,,,,,,,,,,o_O


Sharkbok

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 16, 2012, 22:12:54

 Sasuke- selecting an overseas player that will not be in contention for the next world cup is unproductive. However this beast may well be a contender. I think he is 30 now, so would be 33 which is ok for many positions in rugby, as long as his body still has enough wear and tear at that time. Also playing in Europe with the softer fields- having a battle hardened prop can be very worthwhile


mozart

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 16, 2012, 23:16:26

Kitshoff never pressured his opponent in one S15 game....he may be the future of Bok rugby, but until he can impact with his scrumming, he is not the present.


clevermike

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 04:01:08

What if Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?  That is the problem with the word IF.   Lets illustrate it further,   If my auntie had balls - she would have been my uncle.
 

I think there is virtually no chance of Steenkamp having anything remotely near a good game - but will definitely admit I erred in regard to my reading of the situation if he does even have a reasonable game..   However, if he does not - will his supporters admit the same? 

 


Sharkbok

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 04:09:33

clevermike, it was less than 2 years that he was awared sa player of the year. He had a brilliant year of rugby in 2010.

I will admit if he does not play well, although I am backing him to play well. I think we are going to scrum well and I reckon he will put in some strong carries and tackles


sasuke uchiha

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 13:53:50

i thought steenkamp was average in 2011, infact i cant remember him having a significant impact in 2011 at all.

but i for one do believe in merit first and foremost, so if he does play well then good on him, but again playing well against scotland is harldy a big achievement, one would expect all Boks players to play well against them, the real tests are the ones against the other top 4 nations in the world, england, france, wallabies and the mighty All Blacks.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 13:53:52

i thought steenkamp was average in 2011, infact i cant remember him having a significant impact in 2011 at all.

but i for one do believe in merit first and foremost, so if he does play well then good on him, but again playing well against scotland is harldy a big achievement, one would expect all Boks players to play well against them, the real tests are the ones against the other top 4 nations in the world, england, france, wallabies and the mighty All Blacks.


mozart

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 15:37:17

Steenkamp kept the Beast out of the Bok starting team in 2011, and the Beast is certainly a lot better than average. So once agin we have to assume the coaching team was totally stupid, to reach the conclusion that Steenkamp is average.

 

The fact is Steenkamp is a very experienced test prop. He has scrummed against the best when it counted and prospered. So something has to have changed radically for him to be a liability today.

 

I say he is going to have a terrific test and will come on and admit it if I'm wrong.


clevermike

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RE: What is Gurthro Steenkamp has a good game?
November 17, 2012, 18:32:58

Mozart

I am fully vindicated in what I said about Stenkamp. Was good for three scrums and then disintegrated and scrums became a mess.   Even in the scrums he was good at - he was scrumming upwards and inwards.   Lucky not to get penalized for that.    Maybe that format was necessary since in other forns his guts got in the way.   

Not as bad as your hero Van der Linde though - the latter was disgusting.   Worse tthan I would have imagined possible. Greyling got the boot for much less.

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