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abs not on Meyer's mind
November 16, 2012, 08:53:25

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There appears to be a focus back at home among Springbok fans that their team should be trying to emulate the All Blacks in every game they play, but it is not a pre-occupation shared by coach Heyneke Meyer. (Nice to hear that meyer we hav eour own style and traditions and do not want to be ab clones)

The successor to Peter de Villiers said on the day he took up office that to him there is only one kind of rugby, winning rugby (Hoor Hoor!), and while his Bulls team often trampled opponents underfoot – ask the Stormers team that lost 75-14 at Loftus in 2005 (we had players missing and its was an off day etc - silly to mention this really!!) and the Reds team that got smashed in 2007 (YES!!!) – he never really took too much notice of margin of victory.

What was important to Meyer was that the job was done, and that the trophy was secured, something that during his years in Pretoria happened quite a lot.

He is also a man for processes, for putting systems in place, and while he knows patience is not something a Bok coach should expect from the public, he also knows it may be necessary (Beeno and meyer on the same page- its called maturity - snapster and Mike not showing that level of maturity!!!).

Meyer accepts that back home the expectation will be for his team to match what the All Blacks did last Sunday by scoring 51 points, but for him, as long as the Boks tick all their performance boxes and meet the targets set them in terms of getting the game right, a one-point win will do.

“We’ve got tough supporters who want 50 points in every single test match, and last time we were here we lost,” said Meyer.

“Without being a romantic, what people have to realise is that every game is different. The All Blacks put 60 points on Ireland the last time they played them in June, but the week before that they had to rely on a late drop-goal for their win. You can’t compare two games. The conditions are different and previous teams of mine have been criticised because they didn’t score enough points but then they won trophies.

“New Zealand are obviously a quality side, but we have to focus on the way we want to go, and not worry about them. Winning is a non-negotiable, I don’t care if it’s by one point or two points, we just want to go out there and win the game.”

Meyer may not be thinking of New Zealand now, but they will be firmly in his sights next year. (They are going dooooooown!!!)


When the Boks reconvene next June for a quadrangular tournament featuring tier-two nations and Scotland without their British and Irish Lions in South Africa next June, they will have not much more than 20 games to go until the start of the next World Cup year.

Meyer knows that time moves quickly, and he always said this one would be his most difficult year, a tough one to get through.

The win in Dublin last week, his first on overseas soil, has taken the Boks to a 50% win record in 2012, which is less than most Bok fans would have hoped for, and he knows good wins here on Saturday and in London next week are necessary for both the players’ confidence and his own peace of mind.

But regardless of what transpires in these next eight days, he is hopeful because of the young players who have come through and announced themselves as international players, and he is also emboldened by the knowledge that a core of experienced players will start filtering back after this year is done. (Please let this sink in oaks!!!! - the abs will b ein panic stations next year - they will hawl ou mcaaaw back from his sabbatical but mcaaaw for all his faults is no fool and will stay on holiday and then decide to retire knowing the game is up and the Boks are Baas). Hahahahahahahaha))

He has made no secret of his desire to get Fourie du Preez and Jaque Fourie back from Japan and available for the Boks again, and then there are the players who sat out this year because of injury. (Not sure how much these two can add but lets see)

My whole aim is, by the World Cup in England, to have these young guys like Eben Etzebeth, Marcell Coetzee and others in a situation where they have picked up 40 or 50 caps by the age of 23 or 24. That’s where I want to be, and if we can get that together, it will be great for our chances.

"What is good is that at the moment I don’t know how I am going to accommodate some of the other players when they come back.

“For instance, our loose forwards have been magnificent for us over the past few months, but next year we will hopefully have Schalk Burger and Juan Smith back in the game. How are we going to accommodate them? So although this was a tough year in terms of results, I do feel like we have been building a good base.(I note tha tBurger is  29 and juan 31? - so in ab terms are they old?) 

Players have come through and put up their hands, and the guys are gaining experience and getting the mental toughness that is necessary for international rugby success. I think we are in a good space and I really think that from next year we are going to start developing into a very successful team and we will close the gap between ourselves and the All Blacks.” (Meyer by 2014 Beeno expects you to be giving the abs a solid snotklap so understnad your brief my man!!!)

But right now the imperative is to get through the Scotland game with a win, and then the England game, while in the process hopefully seeing someone like Patrick Lambie nail down his place in the plans going forward.

The All Blacks, and what they do against other opposition, are not a current concern (Yes and righly so - man the French look a lot better right now than the abs!!! Which of course confirms the impression regarding the WC fianl - right saSUE?))


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RE: abs not on Meyer's mind
November 16, 2012, 09:28:40


Talk is cheap - money buys the whiskey.   Meyer must show us what can be done by selecting players on a sensible basis.   I have no problem with him getting players back from overseas or returning from injury - but they should prove through perfromance that they are still worthy of selection - not getting selected on reputation.  Mozart will go for me for saying that - but I do not think because "once a Springbok - always a Springbok" counts at all.   

Some ofthe returnees may in fact finds that their replacements are out-playing them - what then?   Will Meyer accept that - or will he persist with such returness?  Not too diffult insofar as Fourie is concerned - just ask Mozart about that one.    


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RE: abs not on Meyer's mind
November 16, 2012, 09:37:08

Mike competition for places is great for performance and depth is vital - so getting everyone fit and healthy will be a big boost. I am hoping that because we are seeing better depth in some of the squads our top players will be better managed in the Super 15.

Meyer is a process man and will take time to arrive at his destination but I honestly believe 2013 will be better - only more dreadful injuries can derail that - and of course the BL type ref!

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