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De Jongh only definte change for Murrayfiled
November 13, 2012, 13:16:40

by Gavin Rich 13 November 2012, 01:03

Heyneke Meyer has spoken about the possibility of resting skipper Jean de Villiers when the Springboks play Scotland in Murrayfield on Saturday, but the probability is that there will be only one change to the side that beat Ireland last week.
While the Bok coach hinted at a press conference before lunch on Monday that his team may have an alternative captain leading them onto the field for their second tour match, it didn’t look that way when the squad trained at Pefermill in the afternoon.
De Villiers spent most of the small structure portion of the session running in his usual position of inside centre, with Juan de Jongh playing outside him.
And the bulk of the session was also spent with CJ van der Linde running as the loosehead prop, which suggests that Gurthro Steenkamp will make his return to Bok rugby from the bench at Murrayfield rather than as a member of the starting team.
At the same press conference, Meyer spoke about how fortunate he was that Steenkamp had recovered from his rib injury and was able to replace Beast Mtawarira, who has flown home to undergo a minor medical procedure to correct the cause of the heart palpitations that forced him to miss the match against Ireland.
Meyer did say that he hadn’t cast anything in stone as yet, and perhaps the team will be changed again at training on Tuesday, but at this stage it appears likely that Jaco Taute, who did not run in the midfield on Monday, will be playing off the bench. Zane Kirchner has been solid at fullback and continues to vindicate Meyer’s faith him with each performance.
The Bok coach had said that although he still sees fullback as Taute’s best position, he was considering pairing Taute and De Jongh up in the midfield in order to give skipper De Villiers a break.
Meyer was responding to a question at a press conference at the team hotel in Edinburgh on where the inform De Jongh stood in his plans. The omission of De Jongh, the star of Western Province’s recent win over the Sharks in the Currie Cup final in Durban, was one of the talking points before the match against Dublin in Ireland last week.
I definitely want to give Juan a chance, the reason I left him out last week was just because I wanted to keep changes to a minimum from the perspective of what we needed on defence,” said Meyer.
“I haven’t made up my mind completely about this yet, and I still need to talk to a few people, but I would like to institute a rotation policy in the midfield. I thought Jaco Taute played his best test so far against Ireland, so it is a case of whether we play Jaco and Juan together in the midfield, or whether we pair up Juan with Jean.”
Asked if that meant he was thinking of leaving out his captain, Meyer said that there was a chance De Villiers would not be leading the side at Murrayfield.
I am thinking of giving Jean a rest this week as he has been struggling a bit with that hamstring injury that has been bothering him recently,” he said.
I still believe fullback is Jaco’s best position, and would love to play him there now, but I don’t want to make too many changes for the Scotland game. I think we should be looking to build momentum, and we did not play well last time out against Ireland. I have a lot of respect for Scotland.
“They may have lost heavily to the All Blacks but it was mainly in a period of 10 minutes that the All Blacks did most of the damage. Scotland scored three tries, which is not something we or Australia have managed against New Zealand this year.”
The Bok team will only be finalised later and named on Wednesday, but Lambie ran at flyhalf on Monday and Meyer confirmed that he would continue in the No 10.
“He didn’t have much opportunity to stamp his authority on the game in the first half but he showed some nice touches in the second and Pat also knows he is capable of better so I would like to back him and give him a chance to gain confidence going forward by building on his performance,” said Meyer.
Mike I hope you survived the read. lucky to have Steen kamp, Kirchner playing well. De Jongh in the side. Hahahhahaha Mike needs to be traquilised!
What do you think the score will be Mike and others?
Me - its Boks by 15.


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RE: De Jongh only definte change for Murrayfiled
November 13, 2012, 14:59:25


Lets consider the likely team.   The only change in the backline would be De Jongh.   The All Blacks scored their tries through backline play.   The chances of the Springboks scoring even 1 try through a backline move is remote - De Jongh kills any potential backline attack - so the litle there was in Ireland will be gone completely.  De Jongh also lose balls frequently in tackle situations and give away penalties by hanging on,   Unless that is eliminated on Saturday - we will definitely lose.

Forwards and especially the props.   With Beast and Jannie out - the possibility of the fat Steenkamp and the unfit Van der Linde being  our props is a horrible nightmare.   That was brought on by the sick Meyer selections.   I have a feeling that the forwards will not be competitive.   You can never have six effcient forwards and 2 paasengers playing against  8 forwards.   No advantage in that case.

I have a horrible feeling we are going to lose this one and my prediction is a win by Scotland by 5+ points 



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RE: De Jongh only definte change for Murrayfiled
November 13, 2012, 16:04:18

Mike you are driving me to drink!!!  Hahahahahahaha no the mighty Bokke will win!! De Jonght will waltz through the Scots with dazzling footwork! Our rolling maul will roll on and on and over the tryline!

We had better win this match or else certain blowhard ab fans will be all over us like a rash!


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RE: De Jongh only definte change for Murrayfiled
November 13, 2012, 19:21:19

I for one would like to see how a Steenkamp, Strauss  and Heinke Van der Merwe front row does. If not against the Scots, then who? Give Jannie a break. 


Not sure how De Jongh kills a backline that really did nothing anyway last Saturday - if he comes to play he will bring a spark. Has a step that Taute does not


Forwards will dominate Scotland - no fear of that.


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RE: De Jongh only definte change for Murrayfiled
November 13, 2012, 19:49:39

LMAO, dont worry my soon to be haggis beating brus, meyers Boks will prevail where in 2010 PDV failed, :oP

the 6nat wooden spooners need to pray for conditions similar to those they played the wallabies in new castle earlier on in the year when they beat them, and even then the odds are against them even if it improves slightly.
the Boks should be too strong.

it is very important that meyer tries out new things here against 6nats weakest team, cos when else will the Boks ever get that chance again???
meyer needs to realise that there are bugger all chances ofr a team to play for the Boks, so a little familiarity now will do wonders for the Boks.
i really get a feeling that meyer has selected a lot of people in his team who arent going to be doing jack except hold tackle bags in training and soften the race card arguments.

these tours, especially the matches against lower tier teams are as much about rebuilding and trying out new things as it is winning, its a fine balance, but picking a team similar to last sat only strngthens the now, not the future.
meyer had better do something quickly before the next season begins and ben 10 cooks up a fresh new batch of 2013 excuses, :oP

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