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Ek

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All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 08:21:08

Why the world needs the Springboks

November 2, 2012

There’s not much in the Irish media regarding Ireland’s upcoming Test match against the Springboks. What little there is, however, is typically derisory of the Boks’ style of play says David Moseley.

This line, for instance, from The Independent, “Anyone who sat through the turgid meetings of South Africa and Argentina in the recent Rugby Championship will know what to expect at Lansdowne Road this month. Neither side is pretty, but they will both lay down physical markers early on and look to dominate the contact zone.”

The Boks often take flak for their perceived one-dimensional approach to the game. Certainly this year there have been moments when Plan A has been panned as outdated, with Plans B through Z non-existent.

Frustrated fans have called for a more expansive approach from Heyneke Meyer’s charges to such an extent that the introduction of Johan Goosen into the team was treated like the second coming of Carlos Spencer. The boy’s good, but he’ll be no midfield messiah without the foundation of that traditional Bok strength – raw power.

The basics are just fine

While it’s true that South African teams can get bogged down with the basics (particularly the overly defence-minded Stormers), it’s that very “basic” approach which makes watching Springbok rugby such a visceral experience. When the Boks are fired up and on song there is no better team to watch. The hits are jarring, the drives are punishing and the overall physical dominance is breathe-taking. It’s true that nearly every rugby nation boasts enormous physical specimens. The difference with the Boks, however, is that you always get the impression that they enjoy the collisions.

Think of the handful (sadly) of South Africa’s modern era greatest wins; the 36-0 trouncing of England at the 2007 Rugby World Cup, the first half of the first Test against the British & Irish Lions in 2009, or the 52-10 walloping of France in 1997. In these games the perfect storm (Frankenstorm if you’ve been following Hurricane Sandy) of Bok power and finesse was on display.

For rugby purists those games had it all: fearsome scrums, superior tactical kicking, calm heads (except in the second half of that Lions game) and decisive backline play. In those moments the Boks showed the rugby world that their way, and not the idolised run-from-angles All Black approach, was the right way.

South Africa will never beat the All Blacks at their own game. But look how the All Blacks struggle when they’re faced with a strong Bok side. Even this year, when the Boks lost 21-11 in Dunedin, the All Blacks were on the back foot for most the game against a mostly clueless South African team. It was purely physical, and the Boks almost burgled the win.

Similarity breeds contempt

Rugby is a clash of styles, and that’s why Test matches between the All Blacks and South Africa are, usually, such mouth-watering affairs. This has not been a vintage year for rugby by any stretch, but imagine if all teams followed the same script. We’d lose all the glorious nuances that make the game so compelling.

The rugby world needs the Springboks, and it needs Meyer to get the Boks playing effectively to their strengths. Because when they do, when that diesel engine warms up and starts growling through the gears, the carnage out on the field makes for the best rugby viewing.

We know the All Blacks will produce slick handling, we know the Wallabies will run themselves into the ground, we know the Scots will turn a Test into a dog fight, we know the French will do whatever they feel like despite the wishes and intentions of their coaching staff. These are all clichés. But they’ve become clichés because they’re true. The only problem with the Bok cliché of wanting to obliterate opponents is that they haven’t followed through on their expected promise.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the Boks’ style of play. When they’re on song the Bok strategy is a thing of vicious rugby beauty. It’s just that they’re not pulling it off at the moment, hence the frantic cries to be more expansive (because that always works so well for South African teams, like the Cheetahs).

South Africa is a national team packed with brutes, exceptionally skilful ones at that. But they don’t use the broadswords to their advantage. When they do, and who knows if they’ll d find their way under Meyer, not even the All Blacks will be able to stand the heat.

ABOUT DAVID David is a former Features Editor of Sports Illustrated and Features Writer at Men's Health. He once bumped into Geoff Boycott at Lord's but was too scared to hit him with a stick of rhubarb. Posts by David →


DbDraad

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 10:46:19

 After reading this, I almost feel just as good as right after the Currie Cup Final. Those were the days, bring them back Meyer!


dan dan

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 11:27:35

Great article,really enjoyed reading it!


Beeno1

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 13:10:48

Liked the bit about Dunedin. Man we only lost because of 9 missed goal kicks - otherwise the wee abs would have been buried. Woul dall have this stuff been said had we won in and and Dunedin - only goal kicking prtevented that. No of course not. However all that some ar able to understand is the score.!!!

We have it really and only need to add a touch of flair and some skills. Future is looking great

Go Meyer  do something to cheer up Mike nad the snapster! Hahhahahahahahaha


Ek

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 13:36:33

hehe, I think we on the right track as well Beeno. We have the Power part the only thing lacking from the traditional bok game is the Finesse part. We will get there hopefully :)


carpetmuncher

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 15:05:54

in the pre readmission years we fused this pattern with highly skillfull backline play that dominated opposing teams. there was day that the forwards was matched and the contest was even upfront we shifted the attacking focus to the backs and won it on the day..

http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/team/match_results.html?host=5;id=196;type=decade

 

those were the real glory days. the lions pack match the boks but they boks had a little more firepower in the backline. that is the essence of the word is true springbok rugby TOTAL RUGBY.

 

until the day that we nullify our weak areas "attacking play and backline play" but fuse that with our current forwards and defence that will be that day that we will dominate the world. the current game plan is worth less unless the boks dominate 100% upfront. if the pack gets match the boks game plan falls to bits as there is not other tier to launch a attack from.

 

none of those that oppose the meyer brand of rugby want it totally gone nor do we want a free for all run it from anyware approach we want a demonic pack hell bent on hurting the other forwards match with smart quick hard thinking skillfull backline players. that sould be the rugby model that will bring huge amount of sucess.....sorry to say since our readmission if one looks at stats this pattern of play is not long term winning one. the numbers prove it sorry to say.
 

TOTAL RUGBY IS THE ANSWER...backs and forwards being the best at what they do. balance in attack and defence is the true power.


Ek

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 15:17:39

Ironically when Snorre came out innitially and said the exact same thing you just said Carpet, he was laughed out as a lunatic......Just some food for thought....


carpetmuncher

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 15:38:05

well pdv was his own enemy.....his lack of rugby IQ and public statements meant that he was never respected nor tacken seriously. his vision might have been more aligned with what i am stating but his approach and application of that was totally out of sync.

 

as a coach myself i try to develop all areas of a game as rugby is litteraly about cm's and the margins as one goes to the higher levels gets smaller and smaller so to get that edge over your opposing team on the day needs to be trained and planned. if the opposing team can match your forward power or even overmatches it then you have a other tactic ot overcome the problem ????....a proper functioning backline can change or shift the momentum of a game at there whim...that is whey the game is played by 15 players and not just 8 forwards and 2 kickers. as any true coaches will tell you there is no perfect team and there is always room to improve and meyer needs to take them mental leap and work on the boks major weaknesses.

 

it can be fixed its not a major problem but it takes time for players to shift in mentality. the great thing is though the super teams are already taking that transition just the stormers need to add the attacking string to there bow and become more rounded

 

 


Arthur John

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 18:28:36

 Ek...regarding your fitness comment.

 

How can you possibly have  30 plus year old legs keep up with young 20 year old legs?

Impossible, thus the Boks are sucking air in the last 20 minutes of each and every game.

 

Unfortunately aging does hamper performance/fitness, even more so in a contact sport such as rugby.


Saffex

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 18:47:30

And thats why the Bok pack needs the likes of Beast, Bismark, Coenie, Etzebeth, Steph du Toit, Bresler, Paul Willemse, Flip, Elstadt, Coetzee, Alberts, Vermeulen and Kolisi in the ranks. Some are for the near future, others for the now.

Of these Bismark, Etzebeth and Elstadt are the hardest nuts

The art is brutal forwards with skilful backs - we have them in abundance


Ek

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 08, 2012, 07:38:00
Arthur John

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 18:28:36

Ek...regarding your fitness comment.

 

How can you possibly have 30 plus year old legs keep up with young 20 year old legs?

Impossible, thus the Boks are sucking air in the last 20 minutes of each and every game.

 

Unfortunately aging does hamper performance/fitness, even more so in a contact sport such as rugby.

Fitnesss???

Hell I never said anything about fitness....I did mention something about Finesse though, two different concpts ...


Sharkbok

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 08, 2012, 07:43:35

 

Ek
 
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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 08, 2012, 07:38:00
Arthur John

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 07, 2012, 18:28:36

Ek...regarding your fitness comment.

 

How can you possibly have 30 plus year old legs keep up with young 20 year old legs?

Impossible, thus the Boks are sucking air in the last 20 minutes of each and every game.

 

Unfortunately aging does hamper performance/fitness, even more so in a contact sport such as rugby.

Fitnesss???

Hell I never said anything about fitness....I did mention something about Finesse though, two different concpts ...

 

Tell that to the All Blacks who regulary put the boks away in the last 20 minutes. It happened in Dunedin this year, and again in Soweto- on the highveld when most opposition teams are gasping for breath. The average age of the All Blacks fowards are in their 30;s, as many of their backs. Even more thought for food.


carpetmuncher

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 08, 2012, 08:25:45

the AB have taken the scientific approach and from what i read they are even using hydration medication and taking sleeping pills to combat the jetlag. just also proves my point that they are evolving the game to the next level. fitness as with most sport is a very important aspect of any sport


Ek

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RE: All Hail David Moseley!!
November 08, 2012, 08:31:05

Holy crap this turns into a totally off topic Fitness discussion just because someone couldn't read the difference between Finesse and Fitness.

And no-one else bothers to read any of the other comments just the last one.

So here goes.....

Taute is a Ballet Dancer, there I changed the topic again.


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