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Sharkbok

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Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 04, 2012, 05:28:23

 

Ireland coach Declan Kidney ready to turn to Jonathan [removed]ton as stand-in captain as injuries take toll

Leinster fly-half Jonathan [removed]ton has emerged as the favourite to captain Ireland against South Africa next Saturday in what looks set to be a defining autumn campaign for head coach Declan Kidney.

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Leading man? Johnathon [removed]ton could be given the armband against South Africa 
 

It looks increasingly like Kidney will be forced to name a new captain, with Paul O’Connell struggling to be fit for the Springboks match with a back injury and both Brian O’Driscoll and Rory Best already ruled out of the Guinness Test series.

[removed]ton’s main rival appears to be his provincial team-mate Jamie Heaslip, who has deputised as Leinster captain when Leo Cullen has been unavailable. However, Kidney said that he was not necessarily looking for a leader who had captaincy experience at provincial level.

[removed]ton, who has seen off the challenge of Munster’s Ronan O’Gara for the out-half starting position since the World Cup last year, is in many ways regarded as Ireland’s heartbeat, such is his importance to the side’s attacking prowess.

“I think what you always want is a player that the other players will respect, on and off the pitch,” Kidney said. “A player that they will listen to, who has a good tactical appreciation of what’s needed out on the pitch. Usually the captain has to have a relationship with the referee. So there’s quite a number of things.

“It’s easy to just announce somebody, to ask a guy to carry it. I rarely go up to a guy and say ‘will you just captain the side?’, because it is another load on him and first and foremost you want to make sure that he’s comfortable with it. We’ve a few lads that could step in.”

Outside the captaincy question, Ulster flanker Stephen Ferris also looks a major doubt having hobbled off with a knee injury during his side’s victory over Edinburgh on Friday night, after a month on the sidelines.

With Munster’s Keith Earls set to replace O’Driscoll at outside centre, Felix Jones is in contention to fill the fullback berth vacated by Rob Kearney, who has undergone back surgery.

Kidney will also be eager for Leinster prop Cian Healy, who sat out training last week with a shoulder injury to prove his fitness this week.

Almost a year since Ireland's famous victory over Australia in the World Cup, Kidney has never been under such scrutiny.

Remarkably, given the success of the provincial sides in the Heineken Cup, Ireland have won only two of their last eight games, beating only Scotland and Italy.

Leinster’s back-to-back Heineken Cup wins, the second last season coming in an all-Irish final against Ulster, has only added to the growing sense that the national side is not getting the best out of the resources available.

If the embarrassment of losing 66-0 to New Zealand in Hamilton in June is still fresh in the memory of many Ireland supporters, there is also the serious matter of the team’s world ranking ahead of the 2015 World Cup draw in December.

After the Springboks on Saturday, Ireland play Fiji in Limerick before another crucial match in Dublin when they taken on Argentina, currently ranked eight in the world, one place below Ireland.

A poor autumn could see Ireland struggling to stay in the second tier of seeds, making their World Cup path potentially extremely difficult.

It is a position similar to the one Kidney inherited when he took over from Eddie O’Sullivan four years ago. For now, the Cork man, who guided Ireland to the Six Nations title in his first year in charge, shows no sign of letting the pressure affect him.

“Different team, different time, similar cir[removed]stances but, no, you just back yourself and you back the players,” he said. “Just give them full reign to go out and express themselves and enjoy themselves.

“Because if you don’t enjoy yourself you won’t play to the best of your ability. I always believe if we play to the best of our ability we are a match for anybody.”


Sharkbok

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 04, 2012, 05:39:42

  Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable. This Irish Team is not what is was a few years ago. Keith Wood is long gone, Bryan odriscoll is allmost finished and usually injured, Paul Oconnel also looks past his best with not much left in the tank and also looks to be part of the injury support team. 

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The Irish team that got to number3 was the golden age for the Irish. Previously their teams were pretty average over the years and of the 5 nations probably the weakest. With the econmic boom of the 90's and 2000s, their team rose to be one of the best in the world. Although it looks like the team is not what is once was during their best era. 

The forwards should be easily dominated and the backs are pretty average. Only a convincing win will be acceptable. 

The hard match of this tour must be the English, who are now a formidable team. 


Brycy

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 04, 2012, 06:21:21

...bro sounds like yr being a bit hopeful...them irish got the little men i tink...and leprachauns have those magic powers which could be why you've lost the last tree out of four to the Irish Sharkbok...they may be small but they play with big hearts...


Sharkbok

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 04, 2012, 06:49:22

 Brycy the boks have lost games to the Irish, but those were very strong Irish teams. I do not think they have the same calibare of players they had a few years ago. The forwards in particular are not great, Odriscoll was in his day the best center in the world for many years and he led their golden era. 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 05, 2012, 06:29:42

many teams like the Wallabies have proven when u are at ur most dangerous when u have nothing to lose, so dont count out the irish, but i think the Boks should win and any margin would be good enough. 

Boks arent in a position yet to be picky about margins, especially against a nation they have lost 3 of their last 4 games too.


clevermike

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 05, 2012, 07:06:30

The chances of vistory against the Irish depends on the team actually selected from the ridiculous squad originally picked by Meyer.   Meyer is in serious trouble with his backline selections - in view of the pathetic center combination - as well as his selection of bench props n particular.

If Meyer selects Steyn as flyhalf - the backline would be dead and buried.   That would cater for a kicking game only  - and I am not sure whether the Springboks can beat the Irish with that kind of strategy.   I think the game in fact is 50:50 with home ground advantage being a factor.

The only hope Meyer has is that Du Plessis and beast can play for 80 minutes.   What will happen if he has to replace one or both of them with the likes of Van der Linde (useless), Cilliers (patheric) or with Steenkamp - the FAT?

       


carpetmuncher

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RE: Irish Team a plague of Injuries- Anything less than a convincing win is unacceptable
November 05, 2012, 10:56:21

the irish play a dynamic brand and gert small is majestic as there forwards coach so it will be a big test. as much as it bugs me the irish are the favourites here. [removed]ton is a great flyhalf and he will test the boks. this tour will be a watershed tour for meyer. in more ways than none


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