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clevermike

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Re-Union Program Discussion
October 25, 2012, 11:00:55

I watched the Re-Union program this morning as I wanted to hear the opinion of the panelists as to the test last Saturday.    There were three major issues raised, namely -

*   The penalties issue

*    The incident involving McCaw 

*    The attitude of the Wallabies

The Penalties Issue

The panelists said ther is a major problem with the All Blacks consistently giving away penalties for the same offences.    (This is nothing new - in the Soweto test  the All Blacks gave away 11 penalties before there was one contravention by the Springbok.    The penalties are all for contraventions in the ruck and tackle situations to stop the ball from getting out to continue with play.   This tendency is going to lead to more yellow cards in the event of an even-handed referee.    However, this may also indicate that the All Blacks forwards are under pressure as well).

The panelists also pointed out that handling errors played a major roll in the case of potential tries by the All Blacks and that there line-outs were not up to standard.   (Nothing new there - their line-outs against the Springboks were also no good)

The McCaw Incident

The incident was shown twice and then discussed it in more detail.   They also showed 7 incidents in previous tests where similar occurences involving Mc Caw took place.   In dealing with the incident there were three aspects dealt with:-

*    In all incidents McCaw was in a place where he should not have been in th first place and was obstructing the flow of the games in question.     As a result of that - in the absence of no action by the referee - the opposing players took the aw into their own hands - in fact opposing players regard McCaw as a cheat.

*   The other issue mentioned was that the incidents can have major dangerous results and that there is a need for stricter punishment of players who do take he law into their own hands.

The remark was made that Joubert was even handed and handled the situation well - though he should have been more strict on off-the-ball incidents. 

Simultaneously it was implied that the referees are not strict enough in dealing with him by mentioning that in his whole career McCaw only got one yellow card and also that there would be less change of incidents that could have serious consequences.

What was interesting was when the lead panelist asked the Hurricanes Coach what he would do in similar circumstances and he said he would warn his players against taking the law into their own hands. 

The Australian Approach

In this regard they said that they believe the Australians are not confident about winning against the All Blacks. - this became particularly evident during the last few minutes of the game - when they went through 23 phases without even considering a drop goal from virtually in front of the posts.

Summary

The above was basically what was discussed by the panelists and there was some rather clearcut problems identified by them as to the McCaw way of playing in games - this is the first time I heard some rather scathing remarks about McCaw and the way he conducts himself during games..

 


Admit One

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The Kings will sort Richie out. No wonder he is to scared to play next year.
October 25, 2012, 11:32:13


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Re-Union Program Discussion
October 25, 2012, 13:09:43

too much focusing on McCaw IMO, but heres my take on reunions assesment, its complete rubbish and buulshit.
i didnt watch the reunion show, but  if  they really said that McCaw was in a place where he should not have been, o_O WTF are they talking about???

mealamu was penalised for the counterruck going off its feet, while joubert has blown the whistle for the penalty adavntage to the wallabies, McCaw is sitting down and higginbotham the fucking grub knees him in the head and then follows through to drag him and then headbutt him.
for those who are dont understand that McCaw is human, when the ref blows his whistle, he is unable to teleport himself 10meters back, a rugby demigod he maybe, but even his powers are limited.

i wonder if greylings forwarm was mentioned, cos McCaw was contesting at a breakdown and was subsquently cleared by flip, while on the ground after being cleared out, greyling rushes in and drops a forearm that should have seen him red carded.
i wonder where McCaw was meant to be at the time of greylings cheap shot???

as much as other nations might wish it otherwise, McCaw actually likes to work for his living, u dont accumulate 100 test wins, 3 IRB player of the year awards and win everything imganinable without being a star, but i guess all the these cheap shots which IMO are planned, is testmant to how trully great McCaw is and why so many nations hate him and go out of their way to apply the dirtiest tactics imaginable.

Mcaw has suffered swinging forearms into his, the worst spear tackle in rugby history, eyegouges, knees to the head (and im talking about heaslip, not that yellow pussy higgs), head butts and the only justification is, oh well he shouldnt have been there in the first place, weak excuses.

i do hope higginbotham is enjoying his extended vacation, LMAO, missed out on two game, but really u just missed out on the entire EOYT, BAWAHAHAHAHAHA.
but not to fear, hiigs is the type of guy who would pray for one of his teammates to get an injury so that he can be called into the wallabyes test squad and given their luck u can never say never.
 


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Re-Union Program Discussion
October 25, 2012, 13:14:18

@admit one,

first of all, McCaw is playing next year and scared of the southern kings??? is this the same southern kings who just got smashed by a 2nd string cheetahs team who has a lot of players from griqua clique??? the same cheetahs who since their introduction to super rugby have finished their highest palcing of 10th???

scared of the kings??? yeah right, even beenos imagination cant make them scary and hes got the wildest imagination round these neck of the woods, lol, :oP


Beeno1

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RE: Re-Union Program Discussion
October 25, 2012, 13:49:54

Thanks Mike for a very informative summary.

In all incidents McCaw was in a place where he should not have been in th first place and was obstructing the flow of the games in question.     As a result of that - in the absence of no action by the referee - the opposing players took the aw into their own hands - in fact opposing players regard McCaw as a cheat.

Simultaneously it was implied that the referees are not strict enough in dealing with him by mentioning that in his whole career McCaw only got one yellow card and also that there would be less change of incidents that could have serious consequences.

Now if only saSUE could simply accept the blatantly apparent facts and cease blabbering away in such an undignified manner!!!

 


carpetmuncher

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RE: Re-Union Program Discussion
October 25, 2012, 14:07:34

as a opensider its mccheats job to live in the gray area...we can jump up and down as much as possible. its part of the game.

 

if he gets pinned shame on him...if he gets away with it then shame on the ref. if he is so blatant then the opposing teams captain and management needs to make it aware to the refs and make a effort to counter it. crying about it wont fix the problem.

 

i know he cheats but that is part of the game.

@Beeno i though you mike like it. its a extract from dan cottrell...one of the best rugby advisors/rugby techincal writers in the world.

 

please read the bit about brussouw will you


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