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clevermike

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The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 20, 2012, 21:48:02

Maybe it was good that the games today was played on wet field conditions - that is similar as to that in Europe. 

My problem is with some of [removed] constant selections.   He constantly wants Lambie at full back - so therre is space available for Jantjies.   From wht I have seen Jantjies today - as per normal - was really not Springbok material.

Then we have his other favourite Engelbrecht.   He was probably from all four backlines on display - the poorest backline player on the field.   He really produced nothing noteworthy other than two knock ons.    Cannot possibly be a future Springbok center.

I think Taute tried and put in some telling tackles.   He indeed showed some promise - so a plus to [removed] for that.

If Hougaard  was on the field longer - he would have thoroughly deserved the designation of the worst player in all four backlines.   Two charge down kicks from virtually the same spot within minutes from each other says it all.   The last one even let to the Sharks try.    I said he is not a natural scrummie - but now it seems he is not a wing either if his performance in the tests are anything to go by.  Both he and Vermaak was comprehensively outplayed by Reinach.

Can't wait to hear about what he thinks about the above.


Beeno1

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 20, 2012, 22:02:35

Could we be looking at the next Bok half back pair  - Lambie and Reinach. Have to agree Reinach was the best scrummie on view.

 

 


clevermike

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 20, 2012, 22:37:16

Beeno

Reinach is most likely the future scrummie - with Goosen and/or Lambie in the fylhalf position.


Arthur John

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 21, 2012, 16:54:36

 Hear, Hear.

These two Sharkie halves are light years ahead of anythink else that was displayed this week-end.

I also wish to extend my sympathy to all you Queens supporters.....

Not sure where all that EP talent is as per Cheeky and Puke.

Sub-standard S 15 at best and no way into the CC competion....


Beeno1

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 22, 2012, 11:22:55

Well said AJ, I am very leased that Reinach is putting up his hand like this. Hougaard is suffering from the utility player syndrome. He wasnt bad on Saturday but woud like to see him flow in a game like Vermaark and Sarel. 


Saffex

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 22, 2012, 12:23:28

Your prejudice against JJ, Hougaard and Jantjies is pathetic


clevermike

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RE: The issue here is critical - what will Saffex say
October 22, 2012, 13:19:29

I am sorry [removed] - it is nor prejudice.   If you look objectively at the recent games played by Engelbrecht  as well as the performances by Hougaard and Jantjies - you must certainly realize that they do justify criticism from a performnce perspective.

Engelbrecht was very poor - but Hougaard really buggered up badly  especially with the charge down kicks - Jantjies was plain mediocre.

The incidents I referred to are the following:-

*   Engelbrecht knocked on virtually the only two balls passed to him during the whole match  - and there were incidences where his defence was not up to standard.

*   Hougaard was on for about 30 minutes.   During that time he tried to break around a maul - moved about 5 meters and was robbed of the ball by Reinach.   He also tried two rellieving kikcs - virtually from the same spot - both were charged down.   Just not good enough.   By the way his passing was quicker -and accurate - but for one pass where the ball rolled on the ground before reaching the recipient.   I would say all in all a bad performance.   May be the result of lack of game time as a scrummie - but definitely sub-par.

*   Jantjies remains a liability for any team he plays in and he was particularly ineffective on Saturday.   That tackle by Aplon - where he tried to kick the ball with Aplon about to tackle him - he effecively dropped the ball before the tackle - was pathtic and it was only due to Armand.s selfishness that WP did not score a try as a direct result.    He constantly tried to make inside passes - which led to nothing and the one of the 3 times he did try and attack the gain line - in the first case he succesfully passed to an inside player - but i still led to nothing and could easily be described as a hospital pass - the second pass was wild and could not be gathered by the recipient and in the first case Stranski said he attacked - but with no conviction.   After the Aplon tackle he appears to be rattled and missed three kicks at goal/   Mdiocre is the less critical way to rate his performance.   He also on a number of occassions made totally ineffective kicks.   I must correct something though - hedid not make that direct out kick - that preceded  the last  WP try - it was Taute who buggered up.

Remember I do support your contention about Taute - he has potential to develop further - the other three are just not Springbok material and whether they can develop furher is really questionable.   A small chance of that in the case of Engelbrecht and  Hougaard - a zero chance in respect of Jantjies. 


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