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Beeno1

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Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 09:02:35

oh the rarity of this man. fair minded ,decent , sees where the abs are getting away with things and says so an dall in all oftn gets it right.  A rare kiwi bird indeed.

How in th world did nz produce a fellow like this I have to ask myself!!!  If he is1 in a million (very generous odds) there could therefore be 3 or 4 more like him in nz!! A staggering thought. Bwahahahhahaha

By  the way brycy, if you are looking for a role model and dont want a saffar like me, you could think of adopting Justin as your role model.

Beeno always trying to better ou brycy!  Bwahahahhahahaha


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 09:35:40

marshall does try so hard to be mr impartial, yet comes out with more commentary errorss then anyone else, no wonder u like him so much ben10, facts are an irrelevant part of ur lives, LMAO, :P

i will say that despite the 4 forward passes that were obvious to me  including the one that led to the Boks one and only try (many more forward passes according to others) the saffa commentators didnt mention one. could it be that their Bok tinted glasses were far to effective???
i really use to rate saffa commentators, but lately theirs been a steady decline in professionalism, especially bobby skinstdat who i once rated very highly and im not very impressed with in 2012, that very dodgy cocnut tackle on masaga and the last sats one sided opinon. i guess theres only so many losses a man can take before he snaps.
what happened to that saffa commentator who speaks in a very slow manner, has a bery distinct voice and saffa are always impersonating him, i cant remember his name, but hes the only saffa commentator who IMO is unbiased and dosent run his mouth with opinons which are proven wrong later on the replay like marshall, and is very unbiased unlike bobby.


Beeno1

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:09:25

saSUE as I said Marshall is one in a million (geneous odds here) No wonder you dont appreciate him. Hahahahhahaha

As for forward passes nz have perfected the art  -unquestionably the worst serial offenders. 


All Black NZ

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:20:16

Thats just because we pass the ball ten times more than anybody else.


Boklogic

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:28:05

 Gee whizz all black nz thanks for that informative input. Just like ur name suggests because before u put nz after ur name, we weren't sure were the all blacks were from.

careful now Beeno. U don't want to be "owned" by this  chop


hakwa

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:38:18

 you mean the same Justin Marshall that wrote the article below - that was so gushing in his Praise with his tongue falling over itself with so many superlatives that I was almost embarrassed of him! We know what Justin is like - he has never won any RWC and he is friends with George Gregan so we take everything he says with lots and lots and lots of salt (and so should you LOLS) - Enjoy!

Opinion: All Blacks still aiming for excellence

 

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OPINION: So, the All Blacks' winning streak continues after a special test performance in Soweto. But this team are driven by a more pure ideal than the mere pursuit of records.

This was the All Blacks' 16th test victory in a row and they now stand on the brink of carving their place in history. But what you've got to admire most is their pursuit of excellence, rather than numbers.

You can see them from week to week making sure they keep on track, always striving to get better.

The last two weeks they never went to the ground on Fridays, and they hardly trained this past week. Yet their drive and ambition is still very evident in the way they're playing.

I'm sure we'll see a lot of attention around their chance to equal the record of 17 consecutive test wins by a top tier nation. But I don't think this is motivating these guys.

Stats and winning streaks do mean something but they mean more to other people than to the players. The All Blacks are bloody good, and our history is what makes us great. We're going to continue to break records for many, many years. But this team will be motivated by wins, pure and simple.

All Blacks are stimulated first and foremost by perfection, by searching for the ultimate game. You'll never achieve that, but they still seek it, and because of the demands of our public they'll keep seeking it.

I can tell you that Steve Hansen will be looking beyond 17 test wins. He'll be looking at 30.

As an All Black you never contemplate losing, and that's why our record is so good. I'm all for achieving milestones but it's the relentless pursuit of perfection and never wanting to lose a test that is ultimately what you're driven by.

That's why yesterday would not have been about Richie McCaw bringing up his 100th test win. It was just about beating the Springboks in Soweto.

And they had to be very good to win another great test against the old enemy.The Springboks brought plenty of desire and initiative, and the ferocity of the attack early on was great.

Luckily for the All Blacks, the Springboks made crucial errors in the first half and leaked points as a result. That kept the All Blacks interested because at that stage they were well behind in every facet of the game

The Boks are not helping themselves grow because they're making fundamental errors that are undoing their good work. The All Blacks, on the other hand, are lethal because they can punish you when they have absolutely no ascendancy in the game.

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It's becoming quite a forte of theirs, and why they must be so frustrating to play against.

If you break down the stats from this game New Zealand lost almost every single category. But this was an awesome All Blacks performance. Why?

It's impossible to look past their defence. This team's defence is their biggest weapon, and it was incredible again yesterday.

For the All Blacks to slip off just five tackles in 80 minutes, given all the ball the Springboks had, was amazing. Teams have got to be thinking ‘how the hell do we beat these guys?' The Boks had heaps of chances but New Zealand's defence was immense.

When I broke the game down, I struggled to come up with memorable individual achievements. Dan Carter in the second half as a general was great, but by his standards he was reasonably quiet on attack; Ma'a Nonu scored a try, but was not making massive busts; Conrad Smith was reasonably quiet; Hosea Gear had an excellent game; but I thought Israel Dagg was quiet apart from one moment of brilliance, Cory Jane was reasonably quiet and Aaron Smith was more solid than spectacular.

Yet the All Blacks won comfortably.

It was the same up front. McCaw had a pretty good game and Kieran Read was man of the match undoubtedly, Liam Messam carried well in the second half, the locks did their work, Sam Whitelock scored a good try, and Andrew Hore got turnovers. Everybody was doing their individual little bits although only one or two were really stood out.

But it's the collective that's working well, and that's the result of a good coach, a good gameplan and players who believe in each other. That's what is winning them test matches.

Read, though, was one guy you could single out, primarily for what he did in the first 40 minutes, when things were tough, when it wasn't easy.

That's what was special. He was trying to figure a way through the game and he led with his performance.

That's why he was the best player on the park - not because of what he did when the All Blacks were going well. But because of what he did when they weren't.

 


clevermike

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:47:22

Sasue

Sorry I differ from you here - the commentators did say that the pass to Habana seems to be a forward pass - so don't blame the commentators on that one.   I also think that the pass from Louw to  Habana in the Aussie test was questionable.   However, forward passes are often not reported by the line judges who have a shorter route to cover than the on-fiels referee - and the problem that it was not reported by them should be dealt with.

I believe the answer lies in using of more technology as is applied widely on provincial level in SA ar present.   In the event of tries being scored - the referees frequently ask the TV referee to review certain  preceeding plays, where he and the line referees was not sure about passing or other transgressions.   In a CC game on Friday - the referee asked the TV ref to go back bot to the pass immediately before the try was scored - but a preceeding pass.   The try was disallowed because of the latter pass.  

I think ultimately - although it slightly delay decisions - that that is the way to go on international level as well.

As to Justin Marshall - I like the guy so please lay off him.  I liked him as a player as well.   Like any commentator  he is bound to make some mistakes - so let him continue.   He may even say something eventually that may be accpetable in New Zeaand.  LOL          


hakwa

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:50:35

 the word clueless comes to mind when his name is mentioned! In fact someone's name also come to mind ...er....binbin?...no that's not it...er.....bin ladlad?.....no.....Mr Bean?.....no....it will come to me eventually :-))


Beeno1

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 10:54:55

Luckily for the All Blacks, the Springboks made crucial errors in the first half and leaked points as a result 9I agree it was not goo dab play as the ywer eputrid in the opeing 30 minutes). That kept the All Blacks interested because at that stage they were well behind in every facet of the game (Quite so they lost tthe first half by some margin)

The Boks are not helping themselves grow because they're making fundamental errors that are undoing their good work (Exactly so not so much ab good work but we ourselves undoing our good work). The All Blacks, on the other hand, are lethal because they can punish you when they have absolutely no ascendancy in the game.(They can punish you if you make mistakes of the magnitude we did - but not if we get our defence right which will happen and cut down on the rrors which will also happen as the team gels and matures - ie its sall in our hands - we are loosing becuase of our won errors rather than ab excellence))

If you break down the stats from this game New Zealand lost almost every single category. But this was an awesome All Blacks performance. Why?

But it's the collective that's working well, and that's the result of a good coach, a good gameplan and players who believe in each other. That's what is winning them test matches.

Of course their collective is working better they are a far more settled team.

As Meyer said 12 months is a long time in rubgy and it is clear we can definitely start beating the rather mediocre abs in the not too distant future.

Man I would love to hear  what Justin thought of the Dunedin test. He must have thought it was the end for the abs!! Hahhahahaha  Well it will be onc ewe get our wrinkles sorted out. As I said we won 3 of th 4 halves played. Even one simple move like getting Nieaber in to sort out the defence would make the difference.  Lets be honest oaks the nz are very worried and with good reason.

 


Beeno1

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 11:05:33

Mike I have to join you in making make a principled stand on this mtter concerning Justin.. Here we have that rarity an honest kiwi and now his honourable name is being besmirched by some rowdy kiwi louts!!!

Hakwa, Justin has years of rugby behind him at the highest level and has won respect around the wolrd as being a gentlemen ab rugby player. Something that makes him a ver  rare commodity.

So please hakwa rather than trashing this icon of the game you and brycy need firstly to heed what he says with all due onsiderartion and adopt him as a role model!

Beeno clearly has his finger on the pulse regarding the rarity of the man Justin Marshall!


hakwa

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 11:23:50

funny that Beeno - he down played Greyling's cheap shot on McCaw on TV, all of a sudden he was found out for the bitter twisted chip on the shoulder idiot that he was - nec minit - damage control - he wrote this nauseating piece on McCaw highlighting all of McCaw's "excellent" attributes and then followed by the article above! We said we are die-hard ABs fans Beeno - we didn't say we were stupid! LOLZ! You can keep him - loser with a capital L - you like him Beeno because he tickles your ears/stereotypes/delusions!


Beeno1

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 12:14:08

If he is so badly thought of in nz how come he is commentating? 


hakwa

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 14:28:44

 there's only 4million people in NZ - how many Boks and Wallabies fans are there? They wanted someone commentating that tickles your ears - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ work out the math!


Beeno1

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RE: Justin Marshall
October 08, 2012, 14:43:12

Hakwa I fear you katie fantasy is spreading to other areas of your life - get a grip man!  Hang on to those last remaining strands of sanity keeping you with us!!!

Justin is a fine guy and a credit to nz  - one of a very few (Iam assuming there are say 4 others like him)!!!! Bwahhahahahahaha

Oh that there were more Justin Marhalls in nz. Then I could believe brycy was jus tan aberrration. The making of him nz ref of the year a mistake in judgement. But alas he is a rare kiwi bird an endangered species with the hakwa's of the world out to silence him.

All nz oks should adopt this gentlemen of the game as a role model.

End of story.

 


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