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Sharkbok

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Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 06, 2012, 21:37:18

 

Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience



 

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer has no doubt that his team is a work in progress and that this time next year they will be challenging the All Blacks combination that confirmed their dominance of the world game with an emphatic 32-16 Castle Rugby Championship win at Nasrec on Saturday.

The come from behind victory completed a clean sweep in the competition for Richie McCaw’s team, with the All Black skipper celebrating his landmark 100th victory as an international player, a new world record.

Scoring four tries to one at what was supposed to be an intimidating away venue underlined just how classy the New Zealanders are, and they are full value for the record of consecutive wins they are fast closing in on.

However, while Meyer lauded his opponents and agreed they were undeniably both the better team on the day and also the best side on the planet, he reminded suffering South African fans that a year can be a long time in rugby.

“The All Blacks are a really quality team and I have to take my hat off to them and particularly to Dan Carter for the way he controlled the game once they were ahead,” said Meyer.

“Up until halftime we played the right type of game. Against the All Blacks you have to build an innings, and before halftime we were placing them under pressure. They were tiring and being forced to run backwards.

But the turning point came when they scored that try after halftime.

Suddenly they were ahead, and we had to play catch-up, which you can’t do against the All Blacks.

“They want you to be trying to chase them as it makes you mistakes that they feast off. They are the best in the world at exploiting and capitalising on turn-over ball, and that was what they did with devastating effect in this game. But while it is easy to make excuses, and we want to win every game, we also have to be realistic, and we have six

under-21 players in this team.

“They will learn from the experience of playing against the world champions and from what they learned from this game. If we can keep the side together for the end of year tour and give them more experience, then I am convinced we will be a much improved team next year. The All Blacks are a great team and are ahead of us at the moment, but that can change in

12 months.”

Indeed it can, and 1998 and 2004 were two Tri-Nations winning years that followed last place finishes in the Tri-Nations the previous season. There is also no denying that the Bok pack that started well before running out of puff in the second half at Soccer City has an awesome amount of potential, while the young flyhalves who have made their first starts in recent matches, with Elton Jantjies playing with composure even in a beaten team in this game, have the potential to bring the missing dimensions to the Bok game.

What was most glaringly lacking in this match though was the strong, aggressive and physical defensive game that is needed to beat the All Blacks, with far too many individual defensive errors being made while frequently from the vantage point of the Soccer City press box the defence looked disorganised. If Meyer is concerned though he did not show it at the post match press conference, and attributed the failings to lack of experience.

“If you look at previous teams that have played for the Boks in recent years, when the defence has been a strong point, you will notice that those sides all had settled combinations and really experienced players playing for them,” said Meyer.

“Guys like Jean de Villiers and Mossie (Jaque Fourie) played more than 50 test matches together and they got to know each other really well. That makes a lot of difference to your defensive game. We have had to make a lot of changes for various reasons. Johan Goosen came in and he was new to the system, as was Jaco Taute, and then we also lost Goosen during the game and had to bring in Elton Jantjies.

“So what we ended up with was a lot of inexperience against the best backline in the world. It wasn’t that we didn’t man up in the one on one situations, it was just that there were a few soft nations. Against the All Blacks you can’t afford that and they punished us.

“They are a really quality side, the best in the world, we are second, and there is a big gap between us. But we started the season ranked fourth, so we are improving. The All Blacks have brilliant individual players who get them off the hook when they are in trouble. To beat them you have to make sure you make use of all your opportunities when they are a bit off their game, we couldn’t do that.”

The last reference was to the poor goalkicking, that again let the Boks down in this game. Both Goosen and Jantjies, after he came on late in the first half, missed two kicks apiece.

“Had we landed our kicks we could have been eight to 10 points ahead at the break and had that been the case it might have been a different story,” he said.


Sharkbok

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 06, 2012, 21:38:10

 Excellant backline play by the All Blacks, but very poor defence by the boks backline. 


poi-e

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 06, 2012, 21:42:27

 But Dave reackons you should always play a team stacked full of youngsters...heck he was ready to trundle out the Under 20 Boks in full test colours earlier in the year...


sasuke uchiha

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 06, 2012, 23:46:26

Guys like Jean de Villiers and Mossie (Jaque Fourie) played more than 50 test matches together and they got to know each other really well. That makes a lot of difference to your defensive game. We have had to make a lot of changes for various reasons. Johan Goosen came in and he was new to the system, as was Jaco Taute, and then we also lost Goosen during the game and had to bring in Elton Jantjies."

o_O

dosent that admission mean he should have played de jong in the centers then, if combos are so important??? im not really sold on meyer and im convinced now more then ever that the Boks win over the wallabies was the worst thing for the Boks building up to a test against the All Blacks.

hansen has done wonders with his selections, savea was in much better form then gear, but gear had the test of his All Black career IMO, the way he brusehd of habana, JDV and krichner a in such a casual manner had me in awe.
but full credit to hansen for putting thomoson and tamati ellison on the bench too, the highlanders duo came onto the field and continued the All Blacks momentum, but by that stage the Boks fitness was at breaking point and that wasnt good, cos their spirits were broken with carters drop goal.
ellisons selection was a lot like gear over saveas, cos ben smith ahs been the super sub for the All Blacks in 2012, so great to see ellison be a handful for the tired Boks.


clevermike

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 07, 2012, 09:07:10

A while ago - when there was a long argument between Mozart and Saffex as to the potential selection of Taute and Engelbrecht.   Mozart quoted some stats reflecting  deficiencies in defence on the part of the two players.   After that Taute was injured and off for four months.   He got back - played one game for the Lions - and was then selected to play for the Springboks.

The other issue - namely the absolutely atrocious defensive deficiencies of Jantjies - was mentioned on this site time and time again

If there was indeed defensive deficiencies in Taute as highlighted by Mozart - it was definitely not enhanced by his absence from the game for four months.   In the game against the Wallabies the deficiencies were not really exploited by them - they were desperately poor in any event.    The All Blacks knew about that issue from the word go and they really exploited it.

The other player with problematic defensive problems has been Hougaard - as was evidenced on the case of the Wallaby try in Pretoria.

It became a major problem yesterday - when the All Blacks played the fool with our backline defences.   You may get away with one average defender in a backline - but three really problematic defenders in the backline simultaneously were really not acceptable.   As a matter of fact I was horrified when Goosen was injured and replaced late in the first half by Jantjies and really expected the worst.   

In the case of the Whitelock try I think that the try resulted from a failed relieving kick by Taute in the first instance and a consequential disorganized defensive nightmare.   There really was nothing much the Springboks could do about it - it was spilled milk already by the time the All Blacks started their attack - in any event the All Blacks are deadly when they are allowed to combine their mobile forwards and backs in an attack.

However the other two tries directly stemmed from total inablity of Jantjies and Taite  to defend at all - both were cruelly exposed by the All Blacks.

In my opinion there are three issues here that needs urgent attention - but I doubt whether Meyer would do anything about it.   They are the following:-

*     The deficiencies in our backline and defence coaching was exposed cruelly last night.    It is evident that both coaches should be replaced by competent coaches.

*     My immediate reaction was that Taute did a Greyling on us and that he should go forthwith.   However, in thinking about the issue further I think that the issue was not so easy.   Taute was rushed in after long injury, not really matchfit and obviously not properly coached.    I would not leave him our after one really bad game and would put him on the list for corrective coaching as a priority.

*     Taute for the next six months could remain a problem which only decent coaching could correct - in any event he will continue to be in the team for the EOYT - but I do not think that he and Jantjies should ever be in the backline simultaneously.   Matter of fact Jantjies has a really bad record in defence and that has been exposed continuously.   

*    The sooner it is realized that Jantjies is another Earl Rose - the better it will be for the Springboks.   To my mind Jantjies was a major problem last night .  Aside from non-existent defence - his deficiencies was exposed by the action of the players themselves by cutting him out from backline moves after a hopeless kick and hospital passes every time he got the ball.   For me Jantjies has shown in the past that he should not be anywhere near the Springbok backline at all - I always said he should be given playing time to indicate whether he can qualify for selection or not.    Last night prove my contention beyond a shadow of doubt - but it really was a tragedy that it was enforced by Goosen's injury in the first half of the game.     Whereas I think Taute can improve through deccent coaching - there is no way that Jantjies can.   The reason for my statement is that physically Taute and even psychologically Taute could potentially react to corrective coaching - in the case of Jantjies there is no hope for that.

Let me add to that - I think that anopther option - that is to use De Jongh at 13 - would destroy any chance of attacking  backline play by the Springboks at all.   That was evidenced by the lack of any idea of attacking play - when he and De Villiers played together for the Stormers this year.   It was further cruelly exposed by him fluffing a potential try scoring opportunity against the Wallabies.

In conclusson the argument to bring back the one-dimensional and poor Morne Steyn is no option at all,  I would continue to use Goosen as the number 1 flyhalf and Lambie as his back-up.

In summary - I would say that Taute should take a decision to move to the Stormers - where he would definitely get decent defence coachiing for a long period of time.   No backline defence coaching will help Jantjies at all - his move to the Stormers was a mistake by them and they would soon enough realize that.     Furthermore - I think that the idea of playing De Jongh is a no-no as well.    

              


moolaa

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 07, 2012, 10:35:58

 Gavin has said the Bok pack ran out of puff in the 2nd half which is true and exactly what I predicted on this site last week. Same thing happened in Dunedin!

 It's a sad indictment on the Bok's fitness team as they ALWAYS run out of steam in the last 20. How can such a YOUNG pack run out of steam??

Carter had a field day as the Boks were too stuffed to chase his kicks.

Until your players get properly fit you'll never consistently keep up with the ABs. You should also stop selecting the biggest players you can find (take note of your power team demands Beeno!) as they are not nearly athletic enough to keep going for the 80.

The only really athletic forward I can recall in the Boks in the last 10 years was Pierre Spies but whilst he could run like the wind, he had the heart of a mouse.


clevermike

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 07, 2012, 10:53:04

Moodaa

Gavin is not entirely correct in what he says about the issue of possession and the forwards running out of steam in the second half.   Granted the All Blacks got a fairer share of pissession in the second half - but not so much that it could be said that the Springboks ran out of puff.   

Rich is talking bullshit about Jantjies.   He was a disaster on the field of play - watch the game and you will see that the players cut him out of possession because of rank poor play by him.  .Gacin Rich is a great punter for Jantjies - and therefore constantly write the type of tripe he wrote as quoted above.


Denny

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RE: Heyneke blames poor defence on inexperience
October 07, 2012, 10:59:07

 "But Dave reackons you should always play a team stacked full of youngsters...heck he was ready to trundle out the Under 20 Boks in full test colours earlier in the year..."


  :)
 


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