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Sharkbok

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All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 02, 2012, 21:34:34

 

All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer

 Oct 02,2012

Written by: SARugby.com Editor
 

Ex-New Zealand flyhalf Carlos Spencer believes the Springboks will be no match for the All Blacks in Soweto on Saturday. 

Spencer said the Springboks’ emphatic 31-8 win over the Wallabies in Pretoria at the weekend needed to be put into perspective and that the unbeaten All Blacks would pose a much greater challenge. 

“The Springboks obviously needed a good win but the Aussie weren't great," Spencer toldFairfax NZ News. "I think the All Blacks will destroy them this week. 

“It will be a big confidence booster for the Springboks. There was a lot of pressure on them over here in terms of their last couple of efforts. 

"They played some good rugby at times and didn't kick away as much ball as they had previously.

"That's definitely a step in the right direction for them. 

“But they are going to come up against a better defence this week. If they can hold the ball for long periods and not kick it away they'll be in with a chance, but the All Blacks will be too good for them.” 

Spencer, along with fellow assistant coach Wayne Taylor, was in August sacked by the Lions after the Johannesburg-based Super Rugby franchise suspended head coach John Mitchell following allegations of a player revolt, and has subsequently turned his back on coaching. 

During his time at the Lions, Spencer worked closely with flyhalf Elton Jantjies, who made his Springbok debut from the bench last weekend, and is understood to have been popular with the players. 

He is now contemplating a career in sports promotion. "They cut Mitch and I was next. It's just one of those things. People get fired everyday. It's time to move on and try something different,” Spencer said.

 

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Sharkbok

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 02, 2012, 21:45:13

 Very hard to predict the result. If both teams played like they did in New Zealand, I would say the boks would take it because of home ground advantage.

However both teams really stepped up their performances last weekend to score more tries than any other games so far in the tournament. The backlines really clicked for both sides. 

Dan Carter for the big matches is a match winner, but having Goosen at 10 is a big difference for the boks backline. 

I would say that if the Springbok forwards dominate like in Dunedin we will win, but if not the All Blacks could take it. 


mozart

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 03, 2012, 06:17:08

This perennial choker's contempt for South African rugby has to have permeated his coaching efforts at the Lions. People do get fired all the time....but not usually the ones who add value.....the competent ones.

 

Mitchell, Spencer and Deans are not exactly good promotional material for NZ rugby....nor does it seem the NZ model transfers, absent the players.


radtad1

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 03, 2012, 06:27:50

Moz,

 

The corporate leadership at the Lions was about as bad as the leadership of the management team. I suppose you cant blame him for dissent afterall doesnt show any back bone, dignity or professionalism from the Lions in how they released Spencer. Nonetheless, he is a plonker to state his views now when it appears that it is simply bad blood rather than sound judgement?

 

Me thinksit is NZ's shrewd and cheating plan that they always do hehe....Dingo Deans was the first masterstroke to destroy wallaby rugby and then Mitchell destroyed the Lions to the point that they were relegated.

 

 


Bok -Bef$K

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 03, 2012, 07:22:00

Hopefully we smash the AB's then we should show Carlos one big "toffey" to his face.


Beeno1

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 03, 2012, 08:38:54

We should all be thanking Spencer for talking up the abs and thus creating more interest in the game and more revenue for us. Also, the abs believe all their hype (as do their head-in-sand fans)  and will suck all this up as well and could become even more complacent.

Oh the fall of the proud, the crash of the haughty! Think not more of yourself than you ought should be the ab maxim right now - and ditto their fans of course.

Beeno advising ab fans as to the value of realism and humility! Entirely new concepts to them.Bwahahahahahahahahha


Beeno1

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 03, 2012, 09:28:21

There is another thing we can thank Carlos for and its quite an important point. Carlos helped the Lions backline and coached Jantjes making him a better player. The Lions backline under Carlos played some very nice rugby. There were few names in the backline yet they were able to conjur up some fabulous tries. The Lions and the Cheetahs perhaps more than any other provinces kept the flag of SA backline play burning. At times the bulle and sharks showed ability as well with only WP lagging and getting too defence orientated- losing balance.

Given the absence of top quality backline players the Lions and Cheetahs showed there is nothing at all wrong with our players that sound coaching and a proper strategy cannot solve. Carlos helped in that realisation.

Good luck to Carlos and Mitchell. Mitchell I suspect was a non nonsese man and would not tolerate mediocrity. Please dont try to tell me they are not good coaches. Like Deans they were bombed out in the Super 15 by a very bad injury run and due to the poor finacial state of the union and consistent looting of their player resouces they then never had the depth to perfom. Cant blame the coaches for that.

End of story.


polyboy

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 05, 2012, 01:24:42

Beeno1 jeez that last post surprised me, you were down right complimentary of Kiwi's, better watch out Boklogic and co may turn against you. One thing I hope Carlos bought to Bok backline play is although you play to a game plan and structure that he encouraged also using instinct and flair. ...in balance.  This is where the wheels fell off for both Carlos and Quade Cooper, they thought their individualism at times was more important in some games which is why they were hot n cold. When it came off it was spectacular, when not disater. Kiwi kids are encouraged from a young age to play both as a team but also use their instincts in attack and use it as a learning tool in each game, which is why the AB's backline when unleashed are almost unstoppable in space. Based on the OZ game running rugby is not beyond the Boks, but it's the forward battle and quick turn overs that is going to win the day, and I know the Boks feel they have the advantage from Dunedin, but this AB team and the Dunedin AB teams are 2 different beasts , the AB's will have already adapted so doubt the same thing will happen. But am looking forward to the game.


sasuke uchiha

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 05, 2012, 06:41:40

i detect a bit of bitterness in carlos, i wouldnt be surprised if its all part of the being replaced from the lions.

i do agree that the All Blacks will be a much better and bigger challenge then the wounded wallabies, but i dont think it will be a smashing, but i do think the All Blacks will win.
IMO All Blacks bring out the best in the Boks and the wallabies, as both know that its is the most prized scal in all of rugby, thats why it takes fudge all to motivate NZs SANZAR brothers, but while the Boks have improved big time, i dont think they have improved enough.

@moz,

deans took the wallabies from 5th to 2nd on the IRB rankings and only lost it last week when their team suffered an injury riddled season amongst the worst ive ever seen>

deans also won the austalians their 3rd TriNats title levelling them with the Boks on 3 a piece (still short of the mighty ABs 10, lolz, :P), finished 3rd in the RWC and boasted a superior head to head record over the Boks, other then the odd upset to samoa and scotland (im sure u Bok fans will pardon the loss to scotland, LMAO again, :P) deans has fallen well short on the All Blacks mark, but lets be fair, so has everyone else in the world.
as for mitchell, when was the last time the lions won a CC???

 

food for thought aye???
 


polyboy

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 05, 2012, 12:44:03

From what I can gather from the media, Mitchell was a [removed] of a person and  a coach who expected it be his way or no way. He single handedly destroyed Christian Cullens AB career and at the time he took over the AB felt he was totally out of his depth. His career is littered with failure and players not having faith in him, Western Oz side, AB's, the Lion. Best thing NZ did was offloading him overseas.


Arthur John

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 05, 2012, 17:07:35

 Beware folks Carlos has spoken.

looking forward to the game....always enjoy the match up but that Kak Kak I cannot stand.


Brycy

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RE: All Blacks will destroy Boks - Spencer
October 06, 2012, 03:45:48

As Carlos says - Time to kick some yarpy butt....but lets keep it clean this time OK

The Nude Blacks take on the Springbox


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